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Originally Posted by Pliskin101 Holy shit you just keep proving it over and over and over again. I love the first part that alone screams PROOF of what I said. I have never never really been part of a forum with or around someone as sick as you. It is truly disturbing. I have had glimpses like that video I posted but never really had the unfortunate run in as I have now with you on this forum. To see and hear and talk to IT first hand is as I said really sickening literally. The second part is well even more proof of your disturbing brain and how it works. I could post pages upon pages of your disturbing circle jerk black supremacist racist mumbo jombo but WHY would I want to repeat it. There is no doubt that you are EXACTLY what I said and think. Just the last two pages of your BS is disgusting by itself and you just keep the hits coming.

You do realize that despite your accusations, you're not refuting anything here, right?

For someone that allegedly ignores half of what I post, you sure do have a lot of nothing to say about it.

Btw, I thought you said you were done here like 2 days ago.

Originally Posted by dohdough You do realize that despite your accusations, you're not refuting anything here, right?

You do realize that despite your accusations, you're not refuting anything here, right?

Originally Posted by Pliskin101 You do realize that despite your accusations, you're not refuting anything here, right?

No, what's really funny is that you have so little to back up your ridiculous claims, which you continually assert without any explanation, that you've resorted to the debate tactic of little children: the mimicry game.

Originally Posted by dohdough You do realize that despite your accusations, you're not refuting anything here, right?

You do realize that you are in a very small (for obvious reason) SELECT (lol not really) rare (for a reason) group that has your defintions, beliefs and views right?

The only thing you have proven is that according to your views and your distortions and BS is that you BELIEVE what you say to be REAL and fact since it is in YOUR brain so it must be and therefore EVERYONE else is wrong and only you and that "very small select group" that share your twisted views are right, knowing, and intelligent on such things. It's not like it is a rare and small sick mindset or anything. It is THE TRUTH and THE ABSOLUTE according to you and those other rare few. Everyone else is not worthy.

Originally Posted by Pliskin101 ......and people wonder why I do not like or agree and refuse to promote ANYTHING DD posts? Just look at his rants over this thread.. other threads this forum and other forums or just look at his last couple pages alone. Some serious serious racism and sickness going on in that brain of his. He reminds me of.. actually he echos a lot of cult types... black supremacist types etc that are just so lost and so disturbed it is hard for me to describe as it makes me literally ill. But wait I must be racist because I don't BLINDLY agree with another black person who is so disturbed and disturbing in his beliefs and rants and that permeates in almost everything he types everywhere. I must be racist because I don't want young black people infected by DD and his TYPE of hate and BS. This is just a quick video of some of the types that DD echos. You all can follow blindly and prop DD up if you want to. I will never have a part in that EVER.

I am enjoying my sunday but maybe when I get some time this week I will actually go through and quote and post all of DD's cult like black supremacist racist BS as requested by him. As I mentioned in my above post just on the last two pages I pulled these gems from his long and drawn out ramblings... anyone who has read even half of what DD has posted here and elsewhere can easily see the resemblance to what I said and that video.

Originally Posted by dohdough People of color cannot be racist because they do not have the institutional power to discriminate or oppress whites. This is on top of the fact that your stupid example actually describes prejudice, not discrimination. Racism implies and requires power.

Originally Posted by dohdough Scale is important. You can't just look at it in terms in who it harms, but also who it benefits. Racism is a very complicated phenomenon and to boil it down to simply hating someone because of their race and while thinking one's own race as superior is inaccurate and simply dumb.

Originally Posted by chiwii What specific actions are necessary to prove that one isn't supportive of a power structure that is oppressive?

Exactly. He has no idea. Funny how innocent people have to prove they aren't doing something wrong before dohdough let's them off the hook. (which is impossible if you read his other posts).

According to him Billy Bob who works at the gas station down the street for 7 bucks an hour is racist because he is working and since black people are rejected from employment more often than whites, Billy Bob is taking advantage and benefitting from a system that prefers white people to black people. That racist Billy Bob!

Nah Billy Bob even if he was homeless he would still be a RACIST and a benefactor of RACISM by DD's definition. The only way Billy Bob could ever escape that label is be being dead (which even in death would still be racist probably because of his death burial choice and belief). If Billy Bob gave up all possessions personal individual will and identity and wants etc and became solely a tool or servant to a black person or black group or black neighborhood or black people as a whole and worked only for their economic status and power might he escape being a racist...he must only work to serve black people's economic wants aspirations and needs and power and only for that group (there is no individuality in DD's definition, not that that alone isn't racist) then might he be considered NOT RACIST. Actually no not even then would he escape that white only label.

Originally Posted by Knoell Exactly. He has no idea. Funny how innocent people have to prove they aren't doing something wrong before dohdough let's them off the hook. (which is impossible if you read his other posts). According to him Billy Bob who works at the gas station down the street for 7 bucks an hour is racist because he is working and since black people are rejected from employment more often than whites, Billy Bob is taking advantage and benefitting from a system that prefers white people to black people. That racist Billy Bob!

Don't confuse me for yourself. If all it takes to prove to you that someone isn't racist is that they don't hate people based on race, then even David Duke isn't racist.

Nice strawman though!

Here is a nice and warm story.

A hardcore racist KKK member moved from the united states with a few klan mates into deep china where they magically stopped being racist.

Edit: no matter what their beliefs, ideologies, actions ...any actions and even if they had money they still became and are now magically not racist. heart warming.

Originally Posted by Pliskin101 Nah Billy Bob even if he was homeless he would still be a RACIST and a benefactor of RACISM by DD's definition. The only way Billy Bob could ever escape that label is be being dead (which even in death would still be racist probably because of his death burial choice and belief). If Billy Bob gave up all possessions personal individual will and identity and wants etc and became solely a tool or servant to a black person or black group or black neighborhood or black people as a whole and worked only for their economic status and power might he escape being a racist...he must only work to serve black people's economic wants aspirations and needs and power and only for that group (there is no individuality in DD's definition, not that that alone isn't racist) then might he be considered NOT RACIST.

Racism is bigger than just one person. We can talk about one person doing this and one person doing that until the end up the universe, but it's all meaningless if a bunch of people don't do it together. Racism is a systemic problem, not just an individual one.

Edit: But actually Billy Bob would still be racist only until black people have the money and power and the majority would billy bob escape that label that white only label then and only then can billy bob and white people not be racist not even the individual white person (billy). Then by dd's def. white people COULD NOT or could never be RACIST no matter what they do individually, believe, their ideology what they do to or towards others could never be considered racist.

Close, but no cigar. Global and cultural hegemony would also need to be included in there as well. You would also need to add generational systemic oppression and disenfranchisement.

You're mixing up supremacist attitudes and racism. They're similar, but not the same thing.

For someone that demanded nuance for weeks, you sure don't like to use any.

Originally Posted by Pliskin101 Here is a nice and warm story. A hardcore racist KKK member moved from the united states with a few klan mates into deep china where they magically stopped being racist. Edit: no matter what their beliefs, ideologies, actions ...any actions and even if they had money they still became and are now magically not racist. heart warming.

It doesn't work that way. You're assuming that racism and white supremacy doesn't travel outside the US in the form of economic power and cultural influence.

Originally Posted by Pliskin101 Here is a nice and warm story. A hardcore racist KKK member moved from the united states with a few klan mates into deep china where they magically stopped being racist. Edit: no matter what their beliefs, ideologies, actions ...any actions and even if they had money they still became and are now magically not racist. heart warming.

Originally Posted by Pliskin101 Nah Billy Bob even if he was homeless he would still be a RACIST and a benefactor of RACISM by DD's definition. The only way Billy Bob could ever escape that label is be being dead (which even in death would still be racist probably because of his death burial choice and belief). If Billy Bob gave up all possessions personal individual will and identity and wants etc and became solely a tool or servant to a black person or black group or black neighborhood or black people as a whole and worked only for their economic status and power might he escape being a racist...he must only work to serve black people's economic wants aspirations and needs and power and only for that group (there is no individuality in DD's definition, not that that alone isn't racist) then might he be considered NOT RACIST. Actually no not even then would he escape that white only label.

Yeah I edited my post as the original added edit was not totally correct it wasn't wrong as a way for a white individual to be considered not racist though....but another way any individual white person can escape being a racist (and only white people and individual white people can be racist according to DD) is when EVERY person is exactly equal in power, money education any status etc etc. Only then and even if they still believe and have ideologies and their actions represent race and superiority and if they have hate based on race.. a radical belief based on race... hate and crime towards others based on race it will matter not they will no longer be racist and of course no one else can be racist then either especially since they never could be or never were.

There is no individual there is no individual white person and no white person can be considered not racist. Only white folks can be racist it is each individual white persons label assigned to them and defined for them by...well in honestly a few loons and morons.

But as I said even hardcore racist KKK members and white supremacists can have another escape (beside the one I said above and the edit dd quoted) and that is that nice warm story of moving to china where their supremacy and race beliefs...hate crimes and actions and ideologies no longer can or will be considered racist in no way could they be considered racist according to DD. Lovely isn't it?

Originally Posted by dohdough You're mixing up supremacist attitudes and racism. They're similar, but not the same thing.

Racism
1.
a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2.
a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3.
hatred or intolerance of another race or other races


No I am not mixing up anything.

SEE my post above #1044..YOUR definition is different and quite frankly WRONG...it is your belief and your views and your definition held by YOU and a very rare sick few!!

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Originally Posted by dohdough You being intolerant of my intolerance to intolerance doesn't give you the moral higher ground and actually makes you supportive of the root intolerance, which in turn, makes you the bigot and intolerant.

right back at you LOL.... I am intolerant of racism as defined and intolerant of it by ANYONE, any individual, group, or government etc and don't fall for the BS that only white people can be and are racist and each individual white person is racist. So you are the bigot and intolerant according to your own words and views. In fact it does make you racist (see number 3) and guilty of sharing some of the radical views held by those I mentioned. Nice!

Originally Posted by Pliskin101 Racism 1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others. 2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination. 3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races No I am not mixing up anything.

A dictionary definition only scrapes the surface of defining and explaining a concept such as racism and not a treatise on the subject. Your application of superficial understanding of the terms and concepts doesn't make a nuanced argument. If all we needed to understand something were dictionaries, we wouldn't need encyclopedias or any kind of research at all.

SEE my post above #1044..it is your beleif and views and your defintion held by YOU and a very rare sick few!!

Uhhh...you mean post 1042? You couldn't have just said that instead? Not to mention that you just copy and pasted my post?

Or do you mean post 1043, where I said that since you can't defend your stances, you've devolved into using mimicry.

edit: right back at you LOL

That doesn't mean what you think it means.

Originally Posted by Pliskin101 Racism 1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others. 2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination. 3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races No I am not mixing up anything. SEE my post above #1044..YOUR definition is different and quite frankly WRONG...it is your belief and your views and your definition held by YOU and a very rare sick few!! edit: right back at you LOL.... I am intolerant of racism as defined and intolerant of it by ANYONE, any individual, group, or government etc and don't fall for the BS that only white people can be and are racist and each individual white person is racist. So you are the bigot and intolerant according to your own words and views. In fact it does make you racist (see number 3) and guilty of sharing some of the radical views held by those I mentioned. Nice!

How does it feel to know that the bulk of people in the world see you as racist DD?

You can throw in your twisted views and philosphy and spin and ideals all you want. You are wrong and you are racist!!

Twist and spin away DD. You are still rare and sick that is the only comfort I can take away from this. You are among only a FEW sick people.

and yes i said post #1044

Originally Posted by dohdough Don't confuse me for yourself. If all it takes to prove to you that someone isn't racist is that they don't hate people based on race, then even David Duke isn't racist. Nice strawman though!

Strawman? If I really wanted to, I could find the post where you pretty much stated that exact scenario.

If all it takes to be racist is partaking in a system that may or may not do EVERYONE justice, then you have a very deluded weak sense of the word racism, and you probably use it knowing that people will take it to the opposite extreme.

Originally Posted by Pliskin101 How does it feel to know that the bulk of people in the world see you as racist DD? You can throw in your twisted views and philosphy and spin and ideals all you want. You are wrong and you are racist!! Twist and spin away DD. You are still rare and sick that is the only comfort I can take away from this. You are among only a FEW sick people.

This is all well and good, but you still haven't ever provided counter examples and explanations to support your version of what a healthy perspective on racism is.

and yes i said post #1044

Actually, you said "my post above #1044." That's different from "my post above, #1044." It's a small, but important difference.

There are things called commas. You should use them. Or you could've included that quote in your post since you seem to love quoting yourself.

edit: It's hilarious that you've quoted yourself 3 our of 7 posts on this page alone.

Originally Posted by Knoell Strawman? If I really wanted to, I could find the post where you pretty much stated that exact scenario.

Actually, your argument was that a homeless white man doesn't benefit from white privilege because he was homeless, transitioned that into him still being powerless and unable to oppress black people while screaming racial epithets, and finally adding another black homeless man that stabbed him while screaming "kill whitey." You ignored my arguments of the trend of greater access to social services for whites, the probability that those two individuals are severely mentally ill, and that the racial experience between whites and black people in the US are radically difference while being undeniably linked.

Maybe you should just put it back in your sig. Then you and Pliskin can be sig-brothers.

If all it takes to be racist is partaking in a system that may or may not do EVERYONE justice, then you have a very deluded weak sense of the word racism, and you probably use it knowing that people will take it to the opposite extreme.

You're absolutely right. My sense of the word is so weak that I can't describe the various ways it manifests itself or how it works and I have never done so.

Originally Posted by dohdough You're absolutely right. My sense of the word is so weak that I can't describe the various ways it manifests itself or how it works and I have never done so.

Now you are getting it! The various ways in which it manifests itself.....think about that for a second.

Originally Posted by Knoell Now you are getting it! The various ways in which it manifests itself.....think about that for a second.

So you admit that I'm right then. Great!

Not a Yendeltrex in sight .. oh wait

Originally Posted by Msut77 http://whatever.scalzi.com/2012/05/1...ting-there-is/

That RPG analogy is pretty spot on.