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Originally Posted by MysterD ... 3. Once game is OLD and cheap, what point is there having DRM? There's no point in having DRM, once the game is old and everybody has bought a copy of it and sales have dropped majorly. By this time, pirates are looking to pirate something else brand new and expensive to steal.

I suspect by the time #3 happens - game is old - either the developer is gone or the publisher doesn't see the benefit to re-open the code and try to remove the DRM.

What we can hope is for Tony to demonstrate to the publishers that if they spend some time/money on DRM removal - they'll earn it back with increased sales.

Originally Posted by CheapThomas I suspect by the time #3 happens - game is old - either the developer is gone or the publisher doesn't see the benefit to re-open the code and try to remove the DRM.

This should be done normally once the game is no longer getting support. When there's no more DLC and no more official patches, the DRM should be removed.

By this time, the game's probably $20 or less.

What we can hope is for Tony to demonstrate to the publishers that if they spend some time/money on DRM removal - they'll earn it back with increased sales.

Exactly.

People who were turned off by a game's specific DRM when the game was released, that normally was a loss of a expensive sale. When a DRM check is removed, you're going to bring those people back into the fold to buy your game - albeit, the sale might be late and the game probably will be cheaper, but at least you got that sale.

Side question - searched and didn't see any discussion on this

Are there plans to make game download purchases giftable? For example, you buy a digital download and input the email of the gift recipient. That person "accepts" the gift and it becomes tied to their Amazon game library.

I know you could probably give the Steam or activation key to someone for a product that has such a requirement, but for the DRM-free downloads there doesn't seem to be any gift option of which I'm aware.

I think this could really boost sales figures. Or, maybe I'm missing something and there are methods of gifting purchases.

No biggie, just some random thoughts I had.

Originally Posted by Amazon DVG Deals That reddit post is in reference to Serious Sam, not Warhammer. Cheers, Tony

I know Amazon recently had SS3 on sale; $10 (75%) is when I'll probably bite if I'm not playing anything else although I have a feeling it will be even cheaper over the summer.

yay! you guys matched dead space 2!!!

Originally Posted by inm8num2 Side question - searched and didn't see any discussion on this Are there plans to make game download purchases giftable? For example, you buy a digital download and input the email of the gift recipient. That person "accepts" the gift and it becomes tied to their Amazon game library. I know you could probably give the Steam or activation key to someone for a product that has such a requirement, but for the DRM-free downloads there doesn't seem to be any gift option of which I'm aware. I think this could really boost sales figures. Or, maybe I'm missing something and there are methods of gifting purchases. No biggie, just some random thoughts I had.

yep, it is on the roadmap and something our dev team is working on. Just don't have a solid timeline yet...turns out integrating it into our order pipeline is mondo complicated because of the way the existing code works.

Originally Posted by rgd2blck I know Amazon recently had SS3 on sale; $10 (75%) is when I'll probably bite if I'm not playing anything else although I have a feeling it will be even cheaper over the summer.

You won't be sad...you won't be sad at all .

Originally Posted by deletion yay! you guys matched dead space 2!!!

Sure did .

Cheers,
Tony

Thanks! Picked up The Walking Dead! It activated on steam with no issues.

Had I known that Amazon was going to be getting Walking Dead and that it would be a steam redeemable key I wouldn't have purchased it from Steam.

Had some gift card balance so picked up the walking dead as well, even though with taxes it only turned out to be .83 cents cheaper than steam. Now to contemplate what to buy with those 83 cents. =)

Any news on next week's deals yet?

Originally Posted by thegreatest Any news on next week's deals yet?

I want to hear this, as well.

Originally Posted by Drabelincoln Had I known that Amazon was going to be getting Walking Dead and that it would be a steam redeemable key I wouldn't have purchased it from Steam.

I'm sorry, it was a last minute contract signage that made it happen and then we scrambled to get it up .

Originally Posted by thegreatest Any news on next week's deals yet?

Originally Posted by MysterD I want to hear this, as well.

Right now we're going to be doing Deus Ex Standard at $7.49 and Augmented at $9.99, and Dungeon Siege III for $4.99, all activate on Steam.

Plus it looks like the original Crysis at $4.99 is going to win the vote for the deal this weekend which will run from mid day tomorrow through end of day Monday.

Cheers,
Tony

Is that final? Or is there a chance for more? I've already played all of those

Great deals though!

Originally Posted by thegreatest Is that final? Or is there a chance for more? I've already played all of those Great deals though!

Next week's "vote for a $5 game" will feature Darksiders, Company of Heroes GOTY, Red Faction Armageddon, and Metro 2033. Other than that, those are our only planned deals though.

Cheers,
Tony

Originally Posted by Amazon DVG Deals Right now we're going to be doing Deus Ex Standard at $7.49 and Augmented at $9.99, and Dungeon Siege III for $4.99, all activate on Steam. Plus it looks like the original Crysis at $4.99 is going to win the vote for the deal this weekend which will run from mid day tomorrow through end of day Monday. Cheers, Tony

Dammit...I own all of those already.
I buy too many games, I think...

Originally Posted by Amazon DVG Deals Next week's "vote for a $5 game" will feature Darksiders, Company of Heroes GOTY, Red Faction Armageddon, and Metro 2033. Other than that, those are our only planned deals though. Cheers, Tony

Stop coming up w/ sales for games I already own!
Again - I think I buy too many games...

BTW - Metro 2033 is pretty good and is a gorgeous-looking game [technically].

Originally Posted by MysterD Dammit...I own all of those already.

Same here, I've had $20 in Amazon credit for weeks and haven't seen any PCDD that I've wanted to buy that I don't already own. I think half of the problem is that these deals are recycled a lot.

Originally Posted by sunghost Same here, I've had $20 in Amazon credit for weeks and haven't seen any PCDD that I've wanted to buy that I don't already own. I think half of the problem is that these deals are recycled a lot.

I don't think the deals are recycled that often, but when some of us scored those very games early in the year for cheaper, I think it's inevitable we're going to have to miss a few sale cycles in the process. They are all great prices though and after having back to back weeks with different publisher sales, and the huge April sale before that, I don't think Amazon lacks in variety of sales. I have 5 bucks in credit myself but am waiting for the sale on Black Mirror III come May.

Originally Posted by Amazon DVG Deals I'm sorry, it was a last minute contract signage that made it happen and then we scrambled to get it up . Right now we're going to be doing Deus Ex Standard at $7.49 and Augmented at $9.99, and Dungeon Siege III for $4.99, all activate on Steam. Plus it looks like the original Crysis at $4.99 is going to win the vote for the deal this weekend which will run from mid day tomorrow through end of day Monday. Cheers, Tony

In for Crysis. Thanks Tony.

Everyone, thoughts on Dungeon SiegeS 3 for those who never played the first 2?

Originally Posted by Amazon DVG Deals Next week's "vote for a $5 game" will feature Darksiders, Company of Heroes GOTY, Red Faction Armageddon, and Metro 2033. Other than that, those are our only planned deals though. Cheers, Tony

Are those "vote games" going to be Steamworks too? I may bite on Metro 2033 or Darksiders if they are (if either of those win of course).

Originally Posted by kaydigi In for Crysis. Thanks Tony. Everyone, thoughts on Dungeon SiegeS 3 for those who never played the first 2?

Well from what I hear...it is nothing like 1 and 2...which I never played.....people that have played the first two hate the third. I haven't and I had fun playing, I hear its better playing co-op but I havent had the opportunity to do so yet. I would say its def worth 5 bucks...which is exactly what I paid.