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Originally Posted by siradam134 Bv didn't like the way you played.

I can't say this enough, but I have no issue with how he played. I just thought it was boring and said so. I have no objection from a rules (or any) standpoint to someone bleeding the clock, winning or losing.

Originally Posted by GpNinja Does anybody know yanksrules personally? That could contact him for me?

LV, bseti, and a few others all know him.

Originally Posted by siradam134 I'm not choosing sides here. Bv didn't like the way you played. You didn't like the way he brought it up in the thread (which is his right as a player in this league) What you said ABOVE is what irks me. There's absolutely no reason to be talking like that. If you've got that attitude about things.....there's no reason for you to stick around.

I said that because I felt attacked by what he posted in here (unprovoked) and the messages he sent me on XBL after the game...which were:

"I've got to ask...If you've got no interest in playing the game, why did you join the league"

I responded saying basically the same thing I said in here. I tried until the pick in the 3rd, onside kick, blah blah. Then I asked him where his problem was with me letting the game end. He responded with:

"My problem is this league is supposed to be fun. Watching the losing team just run the clock for minutes on end is the antithesis of fun. Just play the game"

If you guys want to run me out of the league, by all means, go ahead. I apologize for being blunt with him. But if the above messages don't amount to bullying...by the winning team...one of the top teams in the game...who is also the commissioner, then whatever. I just wanted to play against some different people and see what I've learned. I had no expectation of winning against the Patriots and have zero ill will about this game.

Originally Posted by bvharris LV, bseti, and a few others all know him.

Well if they could tell him to check his pm i also sent him my number on xbox just in case it gets difficult to schedule

i dunno sounds like a wasted argument...i understand both sides but i also hate running the clock but its more wen the winning team does it
... so are most of the games scheduled for to$$$$t

Originally Posted by n8rockerasu I said that because I felt attacked by what he posted in here (unprovoked) and the messages he sent me on XBL after the game...which were: "I've got to ask...If you've got no interest in playing the game, why did you join the league" I responded saying basically the same thing I said in here. I tried until the pick in the 3rd, onside kick, blah blah. Then I asked him where his problem was with me letting the game end. He responded with: "My problem is this league is supposed to be fun. Watching the losing team just run the clock for minutes on end is the antithesis of fun. Just play the game" If you guys want to run me out of the league, by all means, go ahead. I apologize for being blunt with him. But if the above messages don't amount to bullying...by the winning team...one of the top teams in the game...who is also the commissioner, then whatever. I just wanted to play against some different people and see what I've learned. I had no expectation of winning against the Patriots and have zero ill will about this game.

Yeah, I stand by all that. I'm entitled to express my opinion, both in public and in private. If you felt attacked, that's your issue, not mine. I can't say clearly enough that it wasn't an attack on you, just my opinion on the game. I express my opinion on every game I play after the game ends.

I never said what you did was untoward, wrong, classless or anything remotely approaching that. I'm sorry that you can't wrap your head around that. If you think me tossing around words like "boring" and "antithesis of fun" is bullying, than I guess we have different definitions of what bullying is.

Tell me honestly: Do you really feel that I'm not entitled to a different opinion of what constitutes fun than you? And to express that opinion? Because that's literally all I've done, and for my trouble I've been asked to eat your dick (I decline, by the way). I've not said once that your opinion is wrong, we just have a difference of opinion.

Originally Posted by Tanabeo and you had no defense

you have offended me sir! you must be a virgin! trololololol

Originally Posted by bvharris Tell me honestly: Do you really feel that I'm not entitled to a different opinion of what constitutes fun than you? And to express that opinion? Because that's literally all I've done, and for my trouble I've been asked to eat your dick (I decline, by the way). I've not said once that your opinion is wrong, we just have a difference of opinion.

You're 100% entitled to your opinion. But sending that opinion to me and telling me that I basically didn't play right (ie. "why did you bother joining?", "just play the game") is unnecessary. There is no purpose behind doing something like that other than to try to make me feel bad for playing that way. But if you want to call it "expressing your opinion", I'm not going to argue with you. It's a waste of time.

Originally Posted by XpG CheesyMan you have offended me sir! you must be a virgin! trololololol

I see what you did there.

Originally Posted by XpG CheesyMan you have offended me sir! you must be a virgin! trololololol

Son of a BITCH thats it throw your dick beaters up we are throwin down

Originally Posted by Tanabeo Son of a BITCH thats it throw your dick beaters up we are throwin down

I know where you live I got family there, next time we might hook up call it a dick beating date!

Originally Posted by n8rockerasu "why did you bother joining?"

It was an 100% honest question, I wasn't grabbing my balls and jawing when I typed it out. When you joined you told me you felt you'd learned a lot about Madden and wanted to come back to this league. I guess I just assumed that meant you wanted to learn more and get better, and I really didn't understand how just running out the clock is supposed to help you with your game. If I was on the end of the losing score (and I have been plenty of times) I use it as an opportunity to try new stuff and work on my game. I'm not saying you have to do the same, but me simply expressing that I was bored isn't the same as telling you that you played the wrong way. It was a difference in philosophy that I was curious about (and yes, bored by), not "HEY FUCK YOU BUDDY!", which is apparently how you heard it.

I think the problem is that you still think I hold a grudge against you and are looking to read some malice into this when there really isn't any. I told you when you joined back up that I didn't, and I still don't. And despite what you think, I have no interest in running you out of the league, I want everyone to get something out of the league - and if for you that's working on your game, than I want you to do that. From that comes my confusion about why you'd not take the opportunity to do so. That doesn't equate to malice or ill will.

Originally Posted by n8rockerasu There is no purpose behind doing something like that other than to try to make me feel bad for playing that way..

I'm going to say this for the record: Every time in this conversation that you've made an assumption about my intent or my state of mind your assumption has been incorrect. I've not made a single assumption about your attitude or intent. Can we just agree to confine ourselves to our own thoughts?

Originally Posted by XpG CheesyMan I know where you live I got family there, next time we might hook up call it a dick beating date!

So what I got out of this is you want to beat my dick sorry but I dont go that way I will leave the dick beating for your mom

and random face

Originally Posted by Tanabeo So what I got out of this is you want to beat my dick sorry but I dont go that way I will leave the dick beating for your mom and random face

dude brah take it to pm's! loser

We've all polluted the thread enough. n8, if you'd like to continue this conversation, feel free to PM me and I'll happily discuss it.

Chiefs Dominate Broncos 52-7.

Injury bug finally got to me. Goodbye to Baldwin and Glenn Dorsey. Don't know how he fractured his foot on an arm tackle play, but that's madden for you. Luckily I didn't trade Tyson Jackson.

Cassel 9 of 15 236 Yds 1 TD
Jamaal Charles 17 att 129 Yds 3 TDs 1 Fumble (Returned for the only Bronco TD)
Kendrick Lewis 2 INTs, 1 FF

Chiefs Defense 7 sacks, 2 Interceptions, 1 Forced Fumble

Matt Schaub 5 of 19 74 Yds 2 Ints

Broncos held to 34 yards of total offense.

Originally Posted by Doomtime Broncos held to 34 yards of total offense.

Yeowch.

Yanks and I should be getting our game done tonight

Ok if I pick up another FS? I didn't realize Jon McGraw retired. He was a low 60s OVR. I can pick up a scrub with a similar rating.

Giants- 17
Vikings- 14

Came down to control of the ball and Giants had 13 minutes and change compared to the Vikings 6 minutes and change. A pick 6 really set the Vikings up (14-10) with the lead, but they just couldn't stop the slow run game of the Giants.

I would just like to state that if I am getting beat badly, I will run the clock out also. I am just putting this out their for everyone to know (not a comment towards to the same discussion).