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Hmmm, not a bad deal if you don't don't have the Kingdoms of Amalur. ($14.99 w/DLC!)

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Anybody here have a an opinion on Commander:Conquest of the Americas? Seems like one of those great titles no one ever played. At $1.18 I'll probably snatch it.

Originally Posted by DrummerX Anybody here have a an opinion on Commander:Conquest of the Americas? Seems like one of those great titles no one ever played. At $1.18 I'll probably snatch it.

It was in Indie Gala X, so you may possibly find someone selling a key for $0.50 or so. I checked it out and it didn't look too bad, but I'm not a big strategy guy.

Need your opinions,

so i bought the bethesda pack,

i already have new vegas and oblivion in my library,

should i activate the oblivion GOTYED and new vegas UE just for the sake of the DLC's?

or should i just save the keys and trade them for other games?


cant decide...

If you want the expansions/DLC. (Which are apparently good I hear. I wouldn't know I've never had any of the DLCs or expansions.) Then yes.

If not try to trade or sell them .

I don't think Steam even sells a straight up Vanilla Oblivion. AFAIK any version they sell has Knights of the Nine and Shivering Isles. The only difference is one version has the little DLC like horsey armor and forts and crap like that while the other one doesn't.

Anyway, I think the one GG sells doesn't have the horsey armor.

For New Vegas though some of the DLC is really good, particularly Old World Blues so I would go for it.

Not like you spent a lot on that pack anyway.

This looks more like old games or old game bundles at amazingly high prices.

Originally Posted by Motoki I don't think Steam even sells a straight up Vanilla Oblivion. AFAIK any version they sell has Knights of the Nine and Shivering Isles. The only difference is one version has the little DLC like horsey armor and forts and crap like that while the other one doesn't. Anyway, I think the one GG sells doesn't have the horsey armor. For New Vegas though some of the DLC is really good, particularly Old World Blues so I would go for it. Not like you spent a lot on that pack anyway.

They used to IIRC.

Originally Posted by Fluxy should i activate the oblivion GOTYED and new vegas UE just for the sake of the DLC's?

Definitely for FO:NV. The DLC is worth buying, and you'll never be able to buy it separately for anywhere near as little as that key is worth. ($6 at the very most, more likely $4-5)

Originally Posted by Motoki I don't think Steam even sells a straight up Vanilla Oblivion. AFAIK any version they sell has Knights of the Nine and Shivering Isles. The only difference is one version has the little DLC like horsey armor and forts and crap like that while the other one doesn't. Anyway, I think the one GG sells doesn't have the horsey armor. For New Vegas though some of the DLC is really good, particularly Old World Blues so I would go for it. Not like you spent a lot on that pack anyway.

hmm my game for oblivion only says "Elder Scrolls: Oblivion" doesnt say GOTY is it still GOTY tho?

Originally Posted by Detruire Definitely for FO:NV. The DLC is worth buying, and you'll never be able to buy it separately for anywhere near as little as that key is worth. ($6 at the very most, more likely $4-5)

What the key is worth eh?
http://store.steampowered.com/app/2028016/
19.99$ for the same thing. (And people are buying it too. It's the 68th best selling game on Steam right now)

The price of the Beth bundle ,27.32 evens out to about 2.5$ per game.

Even then, I think that if you think it's only worth ~4 or 5$ just because of a pricing error. That's absurd.

In that case, hey anyone got a Far Cry 3 key they'd sell me for 2.66$? (Since it was sold in a bundle for all 3 games for 8$ by gamestop with a pricing error last week)

In the list it will just say Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion but check your DLC tab and see if there is anything there.

Originally Posted by MrBonk What the key is worth eh? http://store.steampowered.com/app/2028016/ 19.99$ for the same thing. The price of the Beth bundle ,27.32 evens out to about 2.5$ per game. Even then, I think that if you think it's only worth ~4 or 5$ just because of a pricing error. That's absurd. In that case, hey anyone got a Far Cry 3 key they'd sell me for 2.66$? (Since it was sold in a bundle for all 3 games for 8$ by gamestop with a pricing error last week)

Supply and demand. It's not worth that little because of the pricing error, it's because a lot of CAGs got in it and have a surplus of keys to sell. You can't really just average out the price per game according to that bundle. Dishonored pretty much throws that logic out the window considering the MSRP for it and how recent it is. That'd be like taking a bundle with Brink and Dishonored that costs $60 and saying it averages out to $30 per game.

@motoki yup i do have it thanks for the tip!!!

and eff it i just activated new vegas UE, and im pretty sure kids out there wont trade for it as its value since the glitch happend and didnt have any of the dlc for it

edit: and it being a key its going to be a hassle to trade, ill save the trouble and enjoy the game

Originally Posted by MrBonk What the key is worth eh? http://store.steampowered.com/app/2028016/ 19.99$ for the same thing. (And people are buying it too. It's the 68th best selling game on Steam right now) The price of the Beth bundle ,27.32 evens out to about 2.5$ per game. Even then, I think that if you think it's only worth ~4 or 5$ just because of a pricing error. That's absurd. In that case, hey anyone got a Far Cry 3 key they'd sell me for 2.66$? (Since it was sold in a bundle for all 3 games for 8$ by gamestop with a pricing error last week)

Error or not, the game is 75 percent off all the time and Steamworks. Add to that the fact it is a key, and you're unlikely to find anyone that values it any higher than 10 dollars. Most traded games tend to trade around their sale values, unless it has been ages since a sale.

Originally Posted by Tsel Supply and demand. It's not worth that little because of the pricing error, it's because a lot of CAGs got in it and have a surplus of keys to sell.

This. I know there are a lot of CAGers who think they can triple their money on that Bethesda pack but that just isn't going to happen especially if... surprise... you try to sell your keys on CAG.

People can cite Steam prices all they want but the reality is no one is going to offer $20 for a New Vegas GOTY key. It's regularly been $10 on sale and if you want to move your fast versus the dozens upon dozens of other people that grabbed the deal and are trying to sell their keys, you'll have to price it even more competitively.

It's like people trying to get $2.50 for Rogue Warrior. Doesn't matter what the Steam price is, it's a horrible game that anyone who puts in two minutes worth of research time can find out. Arguably not even worth $1. Same with Brink. I'm mildly tempted to check it out for $1-2 but people keep trying to sell the keys for $5-6. If they can find people to buy it for that, more power to them, but I have the feeling there's going to be a lot of excess keys for these games floating around for quite a while.

Re: My opinions on the respective DLC. I'm sure I'm an outlier because I was never a huge fan of these games given the Gamebryo engine and overall design. I played most of the FO3 DLC and found it utterly forgettable. Never tried the New Vegas DLC because I didn't even bother exploring all of the locations in the main game and never really felt the desire to go back and do so.

Originally Posted by Motoki I don't think Steam even sells a straight up Vanilla Oblivion. AFAIK any version they sell has Knights of the Nine and Shivering Isles. The only difference is one version has the little DLC like horsey armor and forts and crap like that while the other one doesn't. Anyway, I think the one GG sells doesn't have the horsey armor.

Yeah, Gamersgate only sells the Steam-versions.

For Steam-versions, Steam has for Oblivion two different versions - Oblivion GOTY (Regular) and Oblivion GOTY Deluxe Edition.
Oblivion GOTY (Regular) = Oblivion (base game) + Shiv Isles (expansion) + KOTN DLC.
Oblivion GOTY Deluxe = Oblivion (base game) + Shiv Isles (expansion) + KOTN DLC + the other 8 DLC's

The other 8 DLC's are:
Fighter's Stronghold Expansion
Spell Tome Treasures
Vile Lair
Mehrune's Razor
The Thieves Den
Wizard's Tower
Orrery
Horse Armor Pack

For New Vegas though some of the DLC is really good, particularly Old World Blues so I would go for it. Not like you spent a lot on that pack anyway.

Oh, yes - Old World Blues is probably one of, if not, THE BEST DLC that I've ever played.
The other DLC's are pretty good, as well.

JE Sawyer (Project Director on FO: New Vegas) has his own Hardcore Mod.
You'll need FO: New Vegas Ultimate Edition (FO: New Vegas + ALL 4 content DLC's + 2 items pack DLC's) to run that Mod.

Originally Posted by Tsel Supply and demand. It's not worth that little because of the pricing error, it's because a lot of CAGs got in it and have a surplus of keys to sell. You can't really just average out the price per game according to that bundle. Dishonored pretty much throws that logic out the window considering the MSRP for it and how recent it is. That'd be like taking a bundle with Brink and Dishonored that costs $60 and saying it averages out to $30 per game.

Oh MSRP? the FNVUE MSRP is much higher than 19$ too you know
Supply and demand just dosen't = what people want on CAG. This is a minority market. There's an entire world out there with people who would see 10$ for brand new FONVUE as a great deal. If they didn't, they would never have boughten it for slightly more than that on steam when it's on sale.

If you were looking for a game like that and you pass up on someone selling it for a great price just because they got it in a cheap bundle then you are silly and you are offended that they are trying to sell something they don't want out of it for a good price to someone just looking for that one game. Then you really are a Cheap Ass Gamer.

FWIW I had no trouble selling my two New Vegases for $5 but Oblivion at $4 had no takers. I suppose I could go down further on it but I might just give it away to people.

Even the Stardock stuff I had a way easier time selling than Oblivion.

Originally Posted by MrBonk Oh MSRP? the FNVUE MSRP is much higher than 19$ too you know Supply and demand just dosen't = what people want on CAG. This is a minority market. There's an entire world out there with people who would see 10$ for brand new FONVUE as a great deal. If they didn't, they would never have boughten it for slightly more than that on steam when it's on sale.

The problem is if you are selling on CAGs people are going to be, wait for it, cheap!

I know there's a whole other world other there but the problem is finding those people and doing it in a place that won't get you in trouble. Steam frowns upon people selling keys so not a good idea to do it there. Anywhere else who even knows what sort of people you are dealing with. Not worth the hassle to me. Plus Anyone who knows about Steam sales knows that New Vegas has been $5 multiple times. To ask any more than that is really pushing it unless you find someone really impatient or take advantage of someone else's ignorance, which I personally don't feel right doing.

I don't mind making a little profit on the Bethesda pack at least to cover my cost and then some for the games I am keeping but I'm not going to go overboard with it either.

Originally Posted by MrBonk Oh MSRP? the FNVUE MSRP is much higher than 19$ too you know Supply and demand just dosen't = what people want on CAG. This is a minority market. There's an entire world out there with people who would see 10$ for brand new FONVUE as a great deal. If they didn't, they would never have boughten it for slightly more than that on steam when it's on sale.

Okay, have fun sifting through the internet trying to huck those keys on Steam or whatever other trading site.