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Did google earth too, and while it is on the same general area, they are not the same place. Damnit.

Delivery conf vs Signature conf...

Delivery: Ok. Yeah. It got there.
Signature: We KNOW it got there. Deal with whoever answered your door.

Thanks everyone for your help.

Sucks that people like that buyer have to ruin it for everyone.

Originally Posted by GBAstar Yeah but the OP can get negged just as easily for requesting to cancel the transaction. I would go to the eBay forums ===> Seller Central and ask your question there. It's full of eBay cheerleaders but they have good information and could most likely be more helpful. I'm pretty sure that you will be 100% covered against an INR claim and Unauthorized Use (UA) chargeback as long as you print your label exactly as it is defualted through eBay. I would just make sure you kept the little receipt that comes with the label when you print it incase you need proof if a case is filed later on. While insurance is helpful it's not going to help you if the item shows delivered... ^Actually that is only half true. I think if you buy insurance through eBay and a buyer wins an INR case then you are covered BUT if its bought through the USPS you won't be covered if the item shows delivered

That is basically what I said originally, he is going to get screwed either way(canceling transaction or delivering to the address) if this buyer is out to scam him. Seller Central is not going to help him much, if the buyer managed to screw over a 3000+ feedback top rated seller who most likely have seen tons of scams.

Originally Posted by wugenius Thanks everyone for your help. Sucks that people like that buyer have to ruin it for everyone.

While you wait for the buyer's reply, try to contact that 3000+ feedback seller, he will most likely give you a heads up on what this buyer did to him, and advise you how to avoid it. If the buyer try to screw you over, at least you have another victim to back you up to get this buyer suspended.

I contacted that seller who she gave a negative too. This is what he had to say:

hi,
yes, i sold her some truck stickers and i have delviery confirmation that they were delivered, she has very bad broken english and claims they never showed up. i offered a resend for free if she would cover the 2.00 shipping charge. of course she wouldn't.

she left me negative for absolutely no reason and ebay wont remove it even though i hav eproof it was delivered.

people like that just frustrate the crap out of me. i cant figure them out.

good luck

He also sent this:
i copied it with both as shown since it is the same building etc....


This was in response to asking him what address he used to ship to her.

Just use something with tracking and delivery confirmation. I had some bitch try to scam me saying she didn't get the stuff. She opened a case against me and I just sent ebay the tracking number which showed that it was delivered to her address and they said ok cool you win and told her to off.

Originally Posted by wugenius I contacted that seller who she gave a negative too. This is what he had to say: hi, yes, i sold her some truck stickers and i have delviery confirmation that they were delivered, she has very bad broken english and claims they never showed up. i offered a resend for free if she would cover the 2.00 shipping charge. of course she wouldn't. she left me negative for absolutely no reason and ebay wont remove it even though i hav eproof it was delivered. people like that just frustrate the crap out of me. i cant figure them out. good luck

Yeah... but as long as you have DC or SC you're not going to be out your money.

Getting negatives suck on eBay but they don't really count for shit. I'm much more worried about low DSR's because they directly effect your TRS.

If you're going to get negged you might as well get money out of the transaction (that is assuming you sold your 3DS for a price you're happy with). In fact I think you're more likely to get negged for cancelling the transaction then you are if the buyer mysteriously doesn't receive the item.

I think I am going to get negged regardless. Damnit, there goes my perfect streak. Although I did have some douche give me a neutral even though he never told me why, and all he commented was "good shipping" or some shiz like that.

I will update everyone tomorrow.

Originally Posted by wugenius I think I am going to get negged regardless. Damnit, there goes my perfect streak. Although I did have some douche give me a neutral even though he never told me why, and all he commented was "good shipping" or some shiz like that. I will update everyone tomorrow.

Honestly though don't worry about the negs. I remember when I got my first one (well it was two together [multi purchase] from the same buyer for an INR).

Like I said negatives don't mean much. It's the low DSR's (1 and 2 ratings) that will kill you.

Most smart scammers don't leave negatives anymore anyways which leads me to believe you just might have a stooopid buyer. Smart scammers know that the fastest way to get caught is to leave a trail of negatives.

have you tried contacting ebay or paypal, i would assume the best way to secure urself is to present ur concerns to them before any damage is done, preferably with someone who won't just brush you off and will actually listen to your concerns.

Sounds fishy, but it could possibly be that one address is hers, the other her family who'll accept delivery if she's not home? That's the only way it would sound plausible to me.

Send a message asking about the address. Then once you receive a satisfactory reply, send it with insurance and signature required. If the post office tells you that you can insure for $200.01 and a signature will automatically be required, tell them you want a signature anyway. The signature with insurance over $200 is only for the post office's tracking purposes and you can't track it.

A couple of updates:

No response from the seller yet.

I called paypal and told them my situation, the lady put me on hold, and when she came back she told me that the 219 prescott pl address was correct and to send it to that one. I asked her how she figured this out, and she said her supervisor told her. (Not very reassuring) She also said she sent a message to the buyer requesting the correct address.

I told her that I wanted to make sure I was protected, and she said that whether I shipped to the 219 address or the 217 address I would be protected. I explained to her that I didn't want to be held accountable if she claims that she did not receive the item because it wasn't the exact address shown and she kept assuring me that I will be fine.


So.....basically paypal was no help.

I know that the person recently left a negative feedback for one seller, but they have other recent auctions where they've left positive feedback for received items so I'm not really sure they're out to scam anyone. I think it's possible they live in some sort of housing that might have two numbers (like a 2 family house or apt, I haven't looked at the map though)

I personally would send it to the confirmed address without changing a single thing. I would also insure it as well. I don't know if signature confirmation will help much as you're already protected if it says delivered. A signature won't prevent you from getting a negative FB.. You really can't worry about the negative feedback. It isn't going to completely kill your ebay reputation, especially if you give a reasonable response to it explaining that your tracking says it was delivered and that she has a history of doing this. If you tried to get them to cancel the transaction then you can still get a negative feedback (which makes no sense to me).

I also want to say that I really ing hate that negative feedback is just one way now. How stupid is that? If a buyer is a scammer or just really crap they should be open to negative feedback just as much as a seller is. That is without a doubt the worst thing about ebay in my opinion.

I saw the google earth view and it isn't a two address house. The two addresses are not in the same place.

regardless of what happens, add them to the list:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/...d.php?t=148600

I'd cut and run from a mess like this and refund her money. It's not worth the headache.

If you do go through with it, ship it with insurance + signature confirmation, eating the costs for each. $170 of insurance will be about $3-4, if I remember correctly, and signature confirmation is about $2. Small price to pay for making sure it gets there and covering yourself if it doesn't by no small surprise.

Even if the money is refunded he is still completely vulnerable to getting a negative feedback from them so since he already got paid he might as well just follow-through with the transaction. As long as it says it's delivered to the confirmed address ebay shouldn't be able to take back his money (assuming he's complying with the other seller protection req. of course), so I think a signature confirmation is not needed here and wouldn't help his case if the buyer filed a dispute

I wouldn't ship this out. I'd even ask eBay for a refund on seller fees.