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Originally Posted by gilby no. It is an expansion. I spent some time reading up on the bundle before buying. (which is why i did the minimum. I may very well never play these.) the "girl's love" expansion came out a couple of years after the base game. It's basically the lesbian relationship expansion. And the bundle page made it clear what was included was just the base game. Oddly enough, you can buy either the base game or girl's love on its own. It is kinda disappointing to see the game showing the prompts for the other portion. That's annoying, to say the least.

whyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by CheapLikeAFox whyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!

Yeah. I'd likely have played the expansion.

Originally Posted by gilby No. It is an expansion. I spent some time reading up on the bundle before buying. (Which is why I did the minimum. I may very well never play these.) The "Girl's Love" expansion came out a couple of years after the base game. It's basically the lesbian relationship expansion. And the bundle page made it clear what was included was just the base game. Oddly enough, you can buy either the base game or Girl's Love on its own. It is kinda disappointing to see the game showing the prompts for the other portion. That's annoying, to say the least.

It's an "expansion" by a very twisted understanding of the term. An expansion is something that comes adds additional content to the base game; not something that unlocks features shown in the base game. That's a very big difference.

Also, the bundle page does not make it known what you're getting.

Product Description Spirited Heart is a fantasy life simulation game. Create your fantasy alter ego choosing between an apparently normal human, a cute elf and a wicked demoness. Once the game start you’ll be able to run your life in a virtual fantasy world: choose a job from the 20 different ones available. From time to time, random events will occur and you’ll also make random encounters: there are six potential partner for your character in the game, two for each one of the three races. Each partner will have his own personality and will react differently depending on which race you’re playing, offering over 100 different dialogue combinations! Play with your character for 10 in-game years in which you have to do your best! The full game has 20 normal endings plus 12 special marriage endings, providing hours of gameplay and lots of replayability.

Notice the underlined bit. Why would anyone think that they wouldn't be getting the full game? Not to mention the installer exe for it is named "SpiritedHeartFull", and the game installs as "Spirited Heart Deluxe".

That is a very tricky and deceitful way of wording things and attempting to squeeze more money out of your customers. I complain not because I'm set on lesbian relationships, but because the game is very limited when you're forced to do only certain jobs to match up with your correct relationship partners. A lot of the time, those jobs don't even match your character build (stats, etc), so you have to go out of your way to build a stat you're not working on to find random encounters with the correct partners.

I went through quite a bit of the game (one completion so far), and in one case I was purposely trying to find encounters with a male relationship choice (on the farming job). What happened? I almost always could only find random encounters with the female character on the farming job. I can look at my relationship sheet and see that I've unintentionally built up 1.5/5 hearts with her (relationship meter), yet it's a complete waste because that bit of the game is locked. That is not how an expansion works. It feels like half of the game is locked, all the while teasing you with 75% functionality of that part of the game.

It's a silly game, and I'm getting tired of it after 30 minutes or so anyways, but it's worth seeing how Winter Wolves conducts their business.


EDIT: Also, on my other playthrough, my character build made the "dancer" job a good fit. That was the job I primarily worked on, and the only character you get to know on that job? A female, so I built relationship hearts with her by working that job uselessly as well. I worked up to a higher tiered job, yet there was no relationship partner on that job (it seems there are NO random encounters on higher tiered jobs), so I was stuck with a character I couldn't pursue a relationship with and ended up finishing the playthrough via other means.

You can see how the entire setup is a blaring play for your money to unlock the full game. Not to mention they're probably just riding on the hopes that fapping teenage boys will use their parents' credit card to buy "lesbian mode".

Looking forward to it!

Originally Posted by Idiotekque It's an "expansion" by a very twisted understanding of the term. An expansion is something that comes adds additional content to the base game; not something that unlocks features shown in the base game. That's a very big difference..

The base game, the one that was in the bundle, came out in 2009. The expansion came out in 2011. I'm not sure what has changed with patches and what-not, but it's quite likely the game was always like that.

I'm not saying that's a good thing. I'm saying the game we got in the bundle is the game they sell normally and the game they have been selling normally for three years.

Originally Posted by gilby The base game, the one that was in the bundle, came out in 2009. The expansion came out in 2011. I'm not sure what has changed with patches and what-not, but it's quite likely the game was always like that. I'm not saying that's a good thing. I'm saying the game we got in the bundle is the game they sell normally and the game they have been selling normally for three years.

I understand, I'm just explaining things in detail. It's also false advertising to explain what is included in the "full version" and then give everyone a setup file that says "full" in the file name when it's not actually the full version.


EDIT: Not to mention the information tab said nothing about an expansion or separate version of the game. It only says what is included in the "full version". As opposed to what? The limited version? Common sense would tell anyone buying the bundle that they were getting the "full version", the entire game. Not one half of the entire game (regardless of what was released and when).

Extremely vague information for a reason. I'd just laugh and write it off, but it was a charity to preserve rainforests/forestry. I mean, really Winter Wolves?

Since I'm mainly interested in X-Blades from Be Mine 5, I did a little digging and did a comparison with the X-Blades trailer. It has the same exact scenes that are found in the Be Mine 5 teaser video, so it's 100% confirmed to be in it. I think the guesses that I posted made by other users are correct.

Scenes from teaser are 0:22 and 1:07 from X-Blades trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt0wmMQ6Flw

BM5 is not yet live but it will be soon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnTsrBuAsjU

Get it Here: http://groupees.com/bm5 Announcing Be Mine 5 Game & Music Bundle. A Name Your Price ($1 minimum) campaign with support to Mercy Corps. Game titles include Tropico 3 (PC: Steam key), Oddworld:Strangers Wrath HD (PC: Steam key + DRM-Free), NEO Scavengers (PC, MAC, Linux: Desura key + DRM-Free), King's Bounty: The Legend (PC, MAC: Steam key + DRM-Free), X-Blades (PC: Steam key). Also Music, Comics, and a Bonus game. Like, Share, Spread the word and #MakeGreatHappen.

Will you have to pay higher than the minimum for the bonus game or does it unlock for everyone after x bundles sold?

im guessing it will go live on sat???

Originally Posted by jw430 im guessing it will go live on sat???

They tweeted that it will go live in the next 24 hours (2 hours ago).

https://twitter.com/Groupees1/status/253953881355210752

Originally Posted by sunghost Only one I have from Be Mine 5 is Stranger's Wrath, which I'll probably give away to some random CAG that won't be buying the bundle. I'm very interested in X-Blades, I liked Blades of Time so I figure I'll probably like X-Blades. It's disappointing to me that King's Bounty The Legend is included in it.. I'll most likely be getting Amazon's 1C Pack which will have that in it..

LOL, if I buy the complete bundle. I would own King's Bounty 4 times (Gamersgate, Steam, Gamefly)....Totally worth it (love King's Bounty)

Originally Posted by Umair56 Their tweeted that it will go live in 24 hours (2 hours ago). https://twitter.com/Groupees1/status/253953881355210752

Thanks for the info, I didn't see that coming

Be Mine 5 is shaping up to be a great bundle for me, I don't think I own any of the games in it

Originally Posted by LazyTriangle Be Mine 5 is shaping up to be a great bundle for me, I don't think I own any of the games in it

Same here

I was literally like seconds away from impulse purchasing Neo Scavenger on Desura a week ago

Probably just in for a Buck.

Groupees Be Mine 5 is up! Nice looking bundle. If you want Oddworld and Tropico be prepared to pay 5 bucks (which is still a good deal). Not sure if my machine will run Oddworld though

Be Mine will provide Neo Scavenger steam keys if it gets greenlighted, just a heads up

I'm having trouble biting on this. I already have King's Bounty, and I feel like I'd rather have Tropico 3 Gold (which has been less than $5) or eventually Tropico 4. Oddworld is a good game but I'm thinking Oddboxx (with all the other Oddworld games) will be less than $5 again in winter sale. Maybe I should get X-Blades for $1.50, but it seems like a snoozer....

Originally Posted by imac2much I'm having trouble biting on this. I already have King's Bounty, and I feel like I'd rather have Tropico 3 Gold (which has been less than $5) or eventually Tropico 4. Oddworld is a good game but I'm thinking Oddboxx (with all the other Oddworld games) will be less than $5 again in winter sale. Maybe I should get X-Blades for $1.50, but it seems like a snoozer....

I too am having a hard time biting on this. In the end, I probably will buy it. But it'll be Neo Scavenger that will likely push me over the edge to buy for a buck.

Like you, I already own King's Bounty Legend, and X-Blades is supposed to be really bad. Not quite Bad Rats/Horrid Henry/Revelations 2012 level of bad, but pretty bad.

Oddworld SW is pretty awesome, but I already own it thanks to my purchase of the oddbox a year ago for $5. If I got it for $5 a year ago, it's a safe bet that you'll be able to get it for that (or less) this winter. I sure wouldn't mind getting a DRM-Free copy of SW, but I don't want it badly enough to pay an extra $4.

As for Tropico 3, I like the series and I don't yet own T3, but I've heard that Tropico 3 & Tropico 4 are pretty much the same game. Supposedly if you own one, you don't really need to own the other. Or at least, that's what I've heard. In any event, I've decided to skip Tropico 3 and just get Tropico 4 when it hits a price point that I like.

So yeah, I'll probably buy the bundle for a buck so I can get Neo Scavenger, but I think I'm gonna wait a bit before I do. They've promised to reveal the 6th game as well as set the sales goal on the 8th of October. I get the feeling that they're waiting to see how well the bundle sells before they decide what to set the goal at. I don't want to buy now because I don't want to increase the bundles sold and have them set some unrealistic goal. It might actually be a game that I might want.