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Originally Posted by GBAstar You don't pay for Delivery Confirmation----AT ALL on first class. Your rates are wrong.

Uh, did you not read where I wrote FREE DC for first class? How about you do the calculations yourself if you don't believe me, it's not really that hard

http://postcalc.usps.com/

let me know when you want to admit you were mistaken, I'll wait.

Originally Posted by GBAstar You don't pay for Delivery Confirmation----For first class mail. Your rates are wrong. The rates on the USPS website are for IN STORE PRICING. 13 ounces online is not $3.65 it is $3.28.

Oh so you're picking and choosing when you want to use in-store pricing and when you don't? Okay if you want to play games like that, then calculate $0.19 cents delivery confirmation for Media Mail ONLINE then and still tell me Media Mail is never cheaper than first class.

Originally Posted by ssjmichael Uh, did you not read where I wrote FREE DC for first class? How about you do the calculations yourself if you don't believe me, it's not really that hard http://postcalc.usps.com/ let me know when you want to admit you were mistaken, I'll wait.

Listen.. those are IN STORE PRICES. They are MORE expensive then printing online. You can't print First Class postage from the USPS website so it DOES NOT show the online discount rate that you would get through eBay or PayPal or Stamps.com or any other service that lets you print online.

Just like the instore price for Priority Mail is more then the online price.

And you're wrong btw, online it says POST OFFICE PRICE, there's a section next to that that says online price. So yes, the prices shown on the website that says Post Office Price are EXACTLY what they are in person and my numbers are 100% accurate

Do you grasp the difference between the terms "Post Office Price" and "Online Price"? Surely it's not that hard to figure out for you is it? I am looking at the column that says Post Office Price, which is exactly what it is in person

Originally Posted by ssjmichael Oh so you're picking and choosing when you want to use in-store pricing and when you don't? Okay if you want to play games like that, then calculate $0.19 cents delivery confirmation for Media Mail ONLINE then and still tell me Media Mail is never cheaper than first class.

I changed my statement in the very first post. I said 9oz or less is cheaper First Class. 10oz - 13oz is cheaper by Media Mail. It's all there.

I also wanted to make it clear that DC is always free on first class when you print online. It is always $.19 for Media Mail apparently.

The rates increase and you have to pay full price ($.85) if you pay for postage at the post office.

Originally Posted by ssjmichael Do you grasp the difference between the terms "Post Office Price" and "Online Price"? Surely it's not that hard to figure out for you is it? I am looking at the column that says Post Office Price, which is exactly what it is in person

Why in 2012 would ANYONE ever buy postage at the post office? If you're selling an item online you can damn well print your postage online.

If you don't print your postage you're paying higher rates and an extra $.85 for DC on first class and Priority and $.66 on Media Mail.


All the figures I posted were for online purchasing; and since you can't purcase first class or media mail from the USPS website I wasn't sure why you were referencing their pricing calculator.

Just to make it perfectly clear...

Originally Posted by GBAstar Why in 2012 would ANYONE ever buy postage at the post office? If you're selling an item online you can damn well print your postage online. If you don't print your postage you're paying higher rates and an extra $.85 for DC on first class and Priority and $.66 on Media Mail. All the figures I posted were for online purchasing; and since you can't purcase first class or media mail from the USPS website I wasn't sure why you were referencing their pricing calculator.

Yet you quote media mail delivery confirmation prices of .85 which is only in-store and not online....again picking and choosing


I've pretty much spelled it out. The bottom line is, it definitely isn't always cheaper to go with first class mail, and I've more than proved that already. If you still can't see that, then I just don't know what to tell you.

And in case you or anyone else doesn't know that you can use paypal for shipping, even with non-ebay transactions, then here you go. Copy/paste, or click and you can print Media Mail and First class labels online:

https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_ship-now

That should settle all the misinformation being given out.

Originally Posted by ssjmichael Yet you quote media mail delivery confirmation prices of .85 which is only in-store and not online....again picking and choosing I've pretty much spelled it out. The bottom line is, it definitely isn't always cheaper to go with first class mail, and I've more than proved that already. If you still can't see that, then I just don't know what to tell you.

This is exactly what I said:

Edit: the answer is anything 9 ounces or less is cheaper to ship by First Class; on eBay or by PayPal. The reason being that you get FREE Delivery Confirmation on First Class packages. You do get a discounted rate of $.19 for DC on Media Mail (versus the $.85 at USPS B&M) [ex: Media Mail 9oz = $2.47 + $.19 [DC] = $2.66 OR First Class 9 oz = $2.65 with free DC] 10oz: MM = $2.66; FC = $2.83 11oz: MM = $2.66; FC = $2.99 12oz: MM = $2.66; FC = $3.14 13oz: MM = $2.66; FC = $3.28 I don't print through PayPal so I'm not sure if they charge you $.19 for DC on Media Mail or the full $.85 If they charge the full $.85 for DC on MM it is absolutely cheaper to ship with FC where you get the free DC. ^ Keep in mind that how PayPal works is they charge you the $.19 for DC on first class but then they lower the shipping rate by $.19 to compensate

From the begginning, once I saw the $2.47 + DC ($.19 online $.85 post office) I mentioned MM was cheaper then FC.

I even stated it was cheaper on anything over 10oz. If you had read my post you would have known that.


The other points I was trying to make is that DC is always free on First Class when printed online and that rates are cheaper online then they are at that post office

Originally Posted by ssjmichael And in case you or anyone else doesn't know that you can use paypal for shipping, even with non-ebay transactions, then here you go. Copy/paste, or click and you can print Media Mail and First class labels online: https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_ship-now

Are you browsing from your phone where you can only read 1 or 2 posts at a time? I covered that like ten posts ago.

Yes because you didn't edit it well after the fact to add rates and the link. It wasn't there originally, nor even in your 2nd edit.


Originally posted: Today, 01:44 AM
Last edited by GBAstar; Today at 01:58 AM..


Guess I'll just keep scrolling up every 15 mins or so for changes. Gee Golly who knows what new info I may discover! Or not. No need to carry on this useless debate any further

This is by far the dumbest argument, debate or whatever you call it that I've fallen into all year

I sincerely apologize to CAG for any assholery and partly blame it on it being late, and being hot as

Just wanted to remind everyone, that in the OP, he mentioned shipping one gbc game. From my experience selling, I can fit two xbox 360 games in one bubbled mailer and it will be 13 ounces, which will equal that $3.30 dollar range or so.

One gbc game will weigh far less. I assume about 4-5 ounces, is that correct? With First Class Mail on Ebay, that will be about $1.70 and free delivery confirmation.

To the OP: I would suggest First Class Mail. Never really liked Media Mail. First Class is definitely faster and may cost you a few cents more, but it's worth it. Buyers appreciate the faster shipping so spend those extra cents. (my last package took 3 days to get across the US which is pretty quick).