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Originally Posted by louiedog A week or two ago a listing for Iron Brigade beta showed up in the Steam registry. Just now on twitter the project lead for the game had a conversation with Ryan Davis of Giant Bomb that looks like the game is going to use GFWL. It's not much of a surprise considering it's a Microsoft Studios game. Hopefully they pull a Toy Soldiers down the line if their contract allows it and they can justify the cost. @taswell (Ryan Davis): @MrMooEar (Brad Muir of Double Fine): @taswell: edit: And then I found this: http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-GB/Pr...5-d8044D530FA8

Yesssss. My patience has been rewarded yet again. Can't wait to try it.

Originally Posted by jester55 Let me clarify - I think I also confused myself on the above post. I use SteamMover a couple of ways. I have a NAS\media server that is wired to internet and it has Steam installed. I use it to download the games in order to store the games. I do not play the games from here. Instead, I use SteamMover to move what games I want to play to my laptops secondary hard drive (1TB) that I mention below. I use my gaming laptop for playing the games. It has a 120GB SSD and a 1TB mechanical hard drive in place of the CD/DVD caddy as my secondary drive. Steam is installed on my SSD and I use SteamMover to symbolic/junction link the individual game folders in my C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common to the D:\Games\Steam on my 1TB hard drive on my laptop. Most of my games are played from the mechanical 1TB hard drive. Some games have extremely long load times so I select those games individually and move the games to the SSD to be run from there. This was really helpful for games like Dirt3, Fallout 3, Crusader Kings II, etc. SteamMover is a great tool and it is really easy to use/learn. It makes it easy for me to organize the 500+ games I have on Steam and I don't have to keep re-downloading games when I want to play one. I download it once and move the data to the appropriate area. Hope this helps and feel free to ask me any other questions you might have!

That's a hell of a setup, and pretty clever. I tip my cap to you, sir. I'm trying to modularize my own computer at the moment, leaving only Windows and programs on my SSD, while shuffling off the usual "My" folders to a secondary drive, and pushing all games to a tertiary one. Before, on my lone drive with everything, backing up was a nightmare.

Originally Posted by louiedog Fallout deals are up. $10.19 for New Vegas Ultimate $6.79 for Fallout 3 GOTY Today's deal is Hack, Slash, Loot at 50% off ($3.49)

Fallout 3 GOTY is usually cheaper at $4.99 during major sales.
Good deal for New Vegas Ultimate tho - that one will take longer to get cheaper. Fantastic game, worth every penny.

GMG Killing Floor for $4.49 after using the voucher code during checkout:
PCGMR-ALLIN-GREEN
http://www.greenmangaming.com/s/us/e...killing-floor/

Lol would get it but my backlog is huge as it is. Not to mention haven't even got 15 hours into Skyrim nor started Saints Row: The Third Complete (which was hilariously $10 for reg or $11ish for complete with all DLC...extremely...EXTREMELY difficult choice between the two.... )

Originally Posted by jester55 Let me clarify - I think I also confused myself on the above post. I use SteamMover a couple of ways. I have a NAS\media server that is wired to internet and it has Steam installed. I use it to download the games in order to store the games. I do not play the games from here. Instead, I use SteamMover to move what games I want to play to my laptops secondary hard drive (1TB) that I mention below. I use my gaming laptop for playing the games. It has a 120GB SSD and a 1TB mechanical hard drive in place of the CD/DVD caddy as my secondary drive. Steam is installed on my SSD and I use SteamMover to symbolic/junction link the individual game folders in my C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common to the D:\Games\Steam on my 1TB hard drive on my laptop. Most of my games are played from the mechanical 1TB hard drive. Some games have extremely long load times so I select those games individually and move the games to the SSD to be run from there. This was really helpful for games like Dirt3, Fallout 3, Crusader Kings II, etc. SteamMover is a great tool and it is really easy to use/learn. It makes it easy for me to organize the 500+ games I have on Steam and I don't have to keep re-downloading games when I want to play one. I download it once and move the data to the appropriate area. Hope this helps and feel free to ask me any other questions you might have!

Funny thing is, I use Steam Mover for my Origin titles, too, since Origin now has a directory you can assign where you want it to install games. I just put mirrors of the Origin directory alongside the storage directories I use for Steam and the Steam directories on other drives. So I have a Games directory and inside that, I have a subdirectory for Steam and for Origin.

Then I just jump between my primary Origin Games and my steamapps directory on the C drive on the left side, then jump to the appropriate spot on my D or E or whatever drive I'm going to use (I use my SSD for my games I'm playing a lot, my WD Raptor for games I play occasionally, and my larger, slower 7200rpm drives when I'm storing the game for later).

Steam Mover is great. Only way it could be better is if it showed me how large and how much free space is left on a given drive it's pulled up a directory for. Plus, if it handled multiple directories in a way that didn't involve me pulling them up all the time, that'd be great, too. Still, it's a simple program that does a lot and honestly gives me back control where normally I would have very little(ie., Steam and where it installs games).

Originally Posted by jester55 Let me clarify - I think I also confused myself on the above post. I use SteamMover a couple of ways. I have a NAS\media server that is wired to internet and it has Steam installed. I use it to download the games in order to store the games. I do not play the games from here. Instead, I use SteamMover to move what games I want to play to my laptops secondary hard drive (1TB) that I mention below. I use my gaming laptop for playing the games. It has a 120GB SSD and a 1TB mechanical hard drive in place of the CD/DVD caddy as my secondary drive. Steam is installed on my SSD and I use SteamMover to symbolic/junction link the individual game folders in my C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common to the D:\Games\Steam on my 1TB hard drive on my laptop. Most of my games are played from the mechanical 1TB hard drive. Some games have extremely long load times so I select those games individually and move the games to the SSD to be run from there. This was really helpful for games like Dirt3, Fallout 3, Crusader Kings II, etc. SteamMover is a great tool and it is really easy to use/learn. It makes it easy for me to organize the 500+ games I have on Steam and I don't have to keep re-downloading games when I want to play one. I download it once and move the data to the appropriate area. Hope this helps and feel free to ask me any other questions you might have!

Originally Posted by JustYourAverageJoe Yesssss. My patience has been rewarded yet again. Can't wait to try it. That's a hell of a setup, and pretty clever. I tip my cap to you, sir. I'm trying to modularize my own computer at the moment, leaving only Windows and programs on my SSD, while shuffling off the usual "My" folders to a secondary drive, and pushing all games to a tertiary one. Before, on my lone drive with everything, backing up was a nightmare.

Yeah, it took me a while to plan out my system initially. Now it is like a well-oiled machine. I'm not abusing my SSD or my internet connection with this system in place. The setup is extremely nice when re-installing Steam after a OS clean install or moving Steam to a new computer. After you install Steam, use SteamMover to create the links and then install your game. Instead of downloading the game, Steam will do an integrity check of the data you have for the game currently and install only updates that are needed. It happens about as fast as installing a game directly from a DVD. This is by far the best way to backup you Steam library.

For Steam backup: I HIGHLY RECOMMEND NOT USING THE STEAM BUILT IN FEATURE FOR BACKUPS!

I cannot stress this enough. I lost over 200 games due to Steam internal backup feature and had to re-download everyone of them. This part of the Steam client has never worked right and it does not look like an important area to Steam to correct. There are numerous thread in the Steam forums of horror stories when it comes to the backup utility in steam. JUST DON'T DO IT!

Originally Posted by HisDivineShadow Funny thing is, I use Steam Mover for my Origin titles, too, since Origin now has a directory you can assign where you want it to install games. I just put mirrors of the Origin directory alongside the storage directories I use for Steam and the Steam directories on other drives. So I have a Games directory and inside that, I have a subdirectory for Steam and for Origin. Then I just jump between my primary Origin Games and my steamapps directory on the C drive on the left side, then jump to the appropriate spot on my D or E or whatever drive I'm going to use (I use my SSD for my games I'm playing a lot, my WD Raptor for games I play occasionally, and my larger, slower 7200rpm drives when I'm storing the game for later). Steam Mover is great. Only way it could be better is if it showed me how large and how much free space is left on a given drive it's pulled up a directory for. Plus, if it handled multiple directories in a way that didn't involve me pulling them up all the time, that'd be great, too. Still, it's a simple program that does a lot and honestly gives me back control where normally I would have very little(ie., Steam and where it installs games).

It also works on Amazon too!

Looks like Fallout NV Ultimate will drop into the $7 price range this coming winter sale.

I'm just gonna say this about Fallout: New Vegas - Ultimate Edition...
I got over 113 hours sunk into that game, according to Steam.

I think that gives you an idea of what I think about FO:NV - Ultimate...

I'm definitely picking up Fallout NV,but I"m havng a dilemna on whether or not I should get the ultimate version. The dlc for Fallout 3 was imo forgettable and not that good, is the NV dlc any better?

Originally Posted by Woodlands It was in an Indie Royale, and although I liked it more than some people, I haven't put much time into it because it's darn hard. It's a very straight-forward rogue-like. There's a lot to be said for how it distills the essentials of the genre into the essentials, with nothing superfluous. It's aesthetically retro, but also a throwback in how hard it is. It gets frustrating fast. If you don't like slow pace, retro gaming, or really difficult games, stay away from it. Even if you do, wait for -75% off on this one.

It was planned to be hard, but essentially, it isn't. I consider difficulty level rather as dumb and I'm sure it's caused by the lack of complexity of this game.


You only have to find pattern to finish one quest and then you can play the rest without greater problems, but from beginning you can choose all scenarios, so since you are not choosing Mask of The Boy King, the game looks unbeatable. Additionally I think it's almost impossible to finish any quest with any of default hero classes. The problem is that another classes are unlocked by dying after a multiple of 10 on your deaths counter. So, if you want to start winning, you only have to die 20 times.
Yes, success in this game is based on your deaths counter. Really great idea.
To win at least once, I strongly advice to unlock Amazon class by farming death, because you have got guaranteed holy bow from the beginning of quest and to play only Mask of the Boy King quest with her. Farm on first two levels with your godly holy bow to maximize your HP and ranged attack value. You also need to find bow dealing other damage than holy, because the main boss from this quest is resistant to it. If you are boringly farmed, enough careful and with normal bow in your hands you finally can finish at least one quest. Congratulations!
After you kill the Boy King you will pick up powerful artifact which can be randomly spawned (as other artifacts that you have found before) from start with you on other quest, finally making them passable (and really easy on first levels). So if you are further in game and you want to finish other quests, you also need to be prepared to reroll your hero because you have spawned with other artifact than you wanted.

Originally Posted by Davinatorman I'm definitely picking up Fallout NV,but I"m havng a dilemna on whether or not I should get the ultimate version. The dlc for Fallout 3 was imo forgettable and not that good, is the NV dlc any better?

Old World Blues is one of the best DLC's ever made, if you ask me.

The other DLC's range from good to pretty good, though they're not OWB.
OWB is just something special, for a DLC.


For great DLC's, these are some of them on my list:
KOA: Reckoning - Legend of Dead Kel DLC.
Borderlands: Zombie Island DLC + General Knoxx DLC.
GTA4 - Ballad of Gay Tony DLC.

EDIT:
Also, to actually run Josh E Sawyer's REALLY Hardcore Mod for FO:NV, you need Fallout: New Vegas - Ultimate.
You have to have EVERY piece of DLC - even the two little gun pack/weapon pack DLC's.
Seriously - you should go Ultimate on FO:NV.

Originally Posted by MysterD EDIT: Also, to actually run Josh E Sawyer's REALLY Hardcore Mod for FO:NV, you need Fallout: New Vegas - Ultimate. You have to have EVERY piece of DLC - even the two little gun pack/weapon pack DLC's. Seriously - you should go Ultimate on FO:NV.

Josh's mod for New Vegas is AMAZING. I HIGHLY recommend checking it out http://www.falloutwiki.com/JSawyer#Download . It makes the game much more difficult buy reducing carry amount, reducing the level cap, reworking some talents, and making the water/food/sleep requirements much more strict. Very, very awesome mod.

@Terb73

I still haven't tried regular Hardcore (built into FO:NV), nevermind JE Sawyer's Really Hardcore Mod.
I should, though.

I truly love FO: New Vegas.

Anybody who is thinking of buying FO:NV, go for the Ultimate Edition!

Hack, Slash, Loot plays itself. It's like pulling the lever on a slot machine.

Inputting 2 cents!

1. Everyone should own FO:NV UE for PC.

2. I didnt really feel like using a 3rd party tool to move my steam games from my SSD to a larger drive. I just create symlinks and run most games that way. All the drive I/O intensive games are on my SSD, unless I have taken a break from them. Then i just move them and create symlink (The Witcher, i'm looking at you).

Alright, I'll go for ultimate edition. I don't think I'm hardcore enough to do the Really hardcore mod, but for apparently one of the best dlcs ever, 4 dollars extra isn't that bad.

Originally Posted by Hop25 Wait, you're trying to tell me that you didn't enjoy them looking for a lost girl in the wood for the entire season? What is your problem?!?!

Hey now, to be fair...it was only till the mid-season...AND NO I HATED IT!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Wolfmight For those who missed it $10 Fallout:NV Ultimate Ed. At GameStop: http://impulsedriven.com/falloutnvue

Makes me wonder if in-store price will be the same. I know literally nothing about Impulse from GameStop, so anyone care to comment on this thought?

Originally Posted by zillionandnine Am I the only one who was like "YESSSSS" when Shane was finally killed?

OMG YES!!!!!!!! Especially since he died so much sooner in the comics!

Originally Posted by Motoki Stardock used to own the Impulse site and client before they sold it to Gamestop. Any of their games will still show up and register there but they are pulling from the Steam version sort of like Desura pulls games you got elsewhere. It isn't that you actually bought it from the store but that you bought a game from the company that (formerly) owned that store.

Oh ya, I remember that! So how do I got about actually getting my game then, since the account page just lists it with no key or link? I ask because I no longer have the install files for it.

Originally Posted by Motoki As a general comment though, I'm tired of the pretentious 'let's explore human drama with the backdrop of robots/zombies/aliens/take your pick but it's really about the human drama' schtick. I want sci fi that is sci fi, fantasy that is fantasy, and horror that is horror. Save the soap stuff for day time.

"pretentious" is such a great word to describe tv and movies today

Originally Posted by yangwenli Am I the only one who just keeps all their software on a NAS so it's always available? That's all in once place, accessible now to anyone you want on your network (no re-downloads and works during internet outages). I suppose if you have to go somewhere you can re-download on the road which is nice if you travel a lot...

I have an awesome metal briefcase with about 14 TB of exHDDs I use for all my storage!

Originally Posted by BigSpoonyBard Do you then designate the NAS as your Steam install folder?

You know, years ago I would think this was trolling; but with how fast gigabit is, it's actually totally do-able.

Originally Posted by jester55 I do this in my house too and I use Steam Mover so I don't have to have more than one download of the game around and it is really helpful with organize/maintaining your SSD. I even have .exe link for Steam Mover loaded as a game in Steam for quick access. I highly recommend Steam Mover for backing up your Steam games and maintaining where the games are stored.

I still prefer doing it manually or using explorer extensions. But conceptually, Hard Links/Junctions are the best thing ever for maintaining a good HDD.

Originally Posted by affa How often do we get horror tv shows? It's so rare, though we were lucky to get TWD and American Horror Story in recent history.

Actually there are quite a few that come to mind, but I'm really glad you mention American Horror Story. When I first watched that, for the first 2-3 episodes I felt it was literally one of the worst shows ever played out and viewed it as the worse horseshit available. My g/f who is all about liking bad things kept on it, so I did too. Turned out to be one of my favorite TV shows in recent years!! Simply amazing and I can't wait to see what the next one will be about.

Originally Posted by affa Usually, it's just a mini-series every 3 or 4 years or so, or a half-assed attempt at a series that gets cancelled a few episodes from conclusion.

all this makes me think of is...THE BLACK DONNELLYS!!!!!!!! DAMN YOU FOR BRINGING UP SUCH SADDENING MEMORIES!!!

Originally Posted by jkimrey Okay, so you're using a SSD in your NAS? Would a "regular" drive be too slow loading over the network?

Oh my god, an SSD on a NAS...gross. No, I think he was saying on his pc. All you need to have a good NAS setup is gigabit support on your network.

Originally Posted by Motoki As an aside, I really hope there are no more TV show based games coming out because I'm tired of all the TV talk, even though I am hypocritically contributing to it now because I felt compelled to reply to someone trying to prove my opinion wrong.

Hey now, Adventure Time: Hey Ice King! Why’d you steal our garbage?! comes out soon and that game is gonna be golden for discussion!

Originally Posted by jester55 Let me clarify - I think I also confused myself on the above post. I use SteamMover a couple of ways. I have a NAS\media server that is wired to internet and it has Steam installed. I use it to download the games in order to store the games. I do not play the games from here. Instead, I use SteamMover to move what games I want to play to my laptops secondary hard drive (1TB) that I mention below. I use my gaming laptop for playing the games. It has a 120GB SSD and a 1TB mechanical hard drive in place of the CD/DVD caddy as my secondary drive. Steam is installed on my SSD and I use SteamMover to symbolic/junction link the individual game folders in my C:\Games\Steam\steamapps\common to the D:\Games\Steam on my 1TB hard drive on my laptop. Most of my games are played from the mechanical 1TB hard drive. Some games have extremely long load times so I select those games individually and move the games to the SSD to be run from there. This was really helpful for games like Dirt3, Fallout 3, Crusader Kings II, etc. SteamMover is a great tool and it is really easy to use/learn. It makes it easy for me to organize the 500+ games I have on Steam and I don't have to keep re-downloading games when I want to play one. I download it once and move the data to the appropriate area. Hope this helps and feel free to ask me any other questions you might have!

Originally Posted by HisDivineShadow Funny thing is, I use Steam Mover for my Origin titles, too, since Origin now has a directory you can assign where you want it to install games. I just put mirrors of the Origin directory alongside the storage directories I use for Steam and the Steam directories on other drives. So I have a Games directory and inside that, I have a subdirectory for Steam and for Origin. Then I just jump between my primary Origin Games and my steamapps directory on the C drive on the left side, then jump to the appropriate spot on my D or E or whatever drive I'm going to use (I use my SSD for my games I'm playing a lot, my WD Raptor for games I play occasionally, and my larger, slower 7200rpm drives when I'm storing the game for later). Steam Mover is great. Only way it could be better is if it showed me how large and how much free space is left on a given drive it's pulled up a directory for. Plus, if it handled multiple directories in a way that didn't involve me pulling them up all the time, that'd be great, too. Still, it's a simple program that does a lot and honestly gives me back control where normally I would have very little(ie., Steam and where it installs games).

I wish less people would use steam mover and just get Link Shell Extension if they want ease and simplicity. With Link Shell Extension, everything is drop and drop as if you are making shortcuts and it adds overlay icons to show all the different forms of linking.

Originally Posted by jester55 I cannot stress this enough. I lost over 200 games due to Steam internal backup feature and had to re-download everyone of them. This part of the Steam client has never worked right and it does not look like an important area to Steam to correct. There are numerous thread in the Steam forums of horror stories when it comes to the backup utility in steam. JUST DON'T DO IT!

Interesting, I've never had a problem with it, then again I've never restored a backup from one. I've always made them and then just create ISOs of the backed up files to store and use a virtual drive if I ever need to restore. I only started doing this because of how pissed I was that some HL2 content wasn't present on disc. Guess I'll avoid making them for every game like I've been doing each time I uninstall/complete one (which is almost never )

EDIT:

Originally Posted by OregonDealz Inputting 2 cents! 1. Everyone should own FO:NV UE for PC. 2. I didnt really feel like using a 3rd party tool to move my steam games from my SSD to a larger drive. I just create symlinks and run most games that way. All the drive I/O intensive games are on my SSD, unless I have taken a break from them. Then i just move them and create symlink (The Witcher, i'm looking at you).

This is exactly what I've said and have been saying. People need to stop using stuff like steam mover and do the links themselves.

Originally Posted by Terlan Any thoughts on Hack Slash and Loot?

Not worth it, and I love rogue-likes.

It's incredibly frustrating because it's far too reliant on luck and specific builds. There are only a couple ways to regain health:
1) find potions that give you a handful of hp back. There are not enough of these to maintain solid health.
2) find something with regen. best case!
3) find a weapon with one of 2 special conditions (divine or necro, if i remember correctly) that give health on kills.

Add on to that that a divine weapon has a high chance of upgrading your character (hit percentage, etc) on kills, and it means if you don't find one early, you're hurting. I've only found one once.

Getting one of those things is pure luck. Early melee characters are pointless because you simply take too much damage.

I had a bow character doing fairly well -- found a ring of regen (my first and only!), and had very very good armor... and then ran into a mage that cast a fireball at me. the fireball destroyed my ring, my armor, and my shield. Without armor or regen, i ate it soon afterwards.

The game had potential, but balance is ridiculously broken. Supposedly you eventually unlock new classes that have a better chance, and you can unlock artifacts (you get to pick one unlocked artifact per game). I unlocked a nice sword, which doesn't help much.

Play crawl or nethack instead. Or Dredmore, if you want a more modern, simplified take. Heck, Cardinal Quest is better.

I want to love it, but HackSlashLoot just isn't there yet. I understand what he was going for -- what with artifacts, and needing to build up to be able to survive harder dungeons, and I applaud that in concept, but in execution it fails because of luck based survival.

Alright. Had to pass on New Vegas Ult. during the summer sale and couldn't miss it again. Done deal.

Originally Posted by jkimrey Okay, so you're using a SSD in your NAS? Would a "regular" drive be too slow loading over the network?

I have very few Steam games so no thoughts to really move my Steam folder there. I mostly commented about the NAS since it's something which can help you avoid downloading your games over again all the time and someone mentioned Steam mover which could help with that as well.

I'm not sure if it would work to just use a network share on a NAS as a file folder, but the network tends to be a bottleneck in most cases so I'd probably not recommend that. You could put saves there though I guess.

I just use large 1 TB drives mirrored in my NAS and not SSDs.

That said, the benefits of a NAS is just easier to manage all your data in one spot. Mine can do DNLP or whatever it's called and with smart phones, wireless speakers, etc...you can now stream music from the NAS that you and your family members share all over the house...wirelessly.

It's also so cool that I could be on the sh*t can playing on my smart phone and want a file, I just network over to the NAS with ES Explorer and boom, I grab any file or doc I need from manuals, music, work, etc...I was doing this grabbing all my old Dosbox games.

We also use it to share work files and I try to put all the install files there so if I need to rebuild my machine (very rarely now), EVERYTHING is there already.

Not to mention if you need to do backups, you backup "1" device and not your laptop, your wife's, your kids, etc...

Great for households.

Originally Posted by MysterD EDIT: Also, to actually run Josh E Sawyer's REALLY Hardcore Mod for FO:NV, you need Fallout: New Vegas - Ultimate. You have to have EVERY piece of DLC - even the two little gun pack/weapon pack DLC's. Seriously - you should go Ultimate on FO:NV.

You just need every piece, that's what I have when I picked it all up for 14 bucks before the Ultimate came out.

Speaking of Hack Slash and Loot, has anyone tried out this mod for NV?

http://newvegas.nexusmods.com/mods/40040

Probably the main reason I'm getting NV for pc (already own it on xbox) is because this mod looks really cool, although I don't know if it makes the game better or worse.