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Originally Posted by CAGLeagueSports Well, the Wpark situation isn't completely applicable. For one, he's a long-time CAG that several people in this league have played in leagues with for years. He also took the Dolphins at the beginning of this season (remember, Chetty had them before), and yeah...he signed a few big players through free agency, but that was really it. With the Dolphins losing Reggie Bush, it's probably good that they were able to pick up a few weapons.

Oh yeah, dont get me wrong I dont mean to pick on him at all. He's definitely a good user who I had good experiences with both in this league and the NHL league, just using him as an example of a potentially unfortunate pattern we dont want to see with owners making big moves and then dropping.

In regards to the 4th and 11, if it were a 4th and 5 or less I could see going for it, but 11 yards is a little unrealistic. I dont think any coach would do that in the 2nd quarter.

Originally Posted by GamerDude316 Oh yeah, dont get me wrong I dont mean to pick on him at all. He's definitely a good user who I had good experiences with both in this league and the NHL league, just using him as an example of a potentially unfortunate pattern we dont want to see with owners making big moves and then dropping. In regards to the 4th and 11, if it were a 4th and 5 or less I could see going for it, but 11 yards is a little unrealistic. I dont think any coach would do that in the 2nd quarter.

Yeah, but what play do you call there? I think a coach would maybe call a fake FG...but if you're going to do that, you might as well just go for it. My thought is basically that you're going for it with the expectation that you probably won't covert it. The point is just that you're also not sacrificing much.

It's hard separating "real life playcalling" from "video game playcalling" on that one because I definitely feel like IN MADDEN, it's a lot easier to pick up 11 yards than it is in real life. But I would also argue that IN MADDEN, you'd probably be better off "punting" by just throwing a hail mary...which is likely going to be intercepted at the goalline. I'm honestly really conflicted on this one because I feel like when you consider it was the 2nd quarter, a lot of coaches would probably punt...but only gaining 20 yards bothers me too.

I'm trying to think of it as if I were playing defense, and I know I wouldn't trust a field goal or punt formation there and would probably call a pass heavy defense. Even if they DO punt...you're not going to return it anyway. And if they kick the field goal, who cares where your guys are on the field. And if they just go for it, you're ready to handle it anyway. Maybe that's why I'm conflicted. You could argue they SHOULD punt...but I wouldn't be expecting it if I was on defense either.

Originally Posted by CAGLeagueSports Yeah, but what play do you call there? I think a coach would maybe call a fake FG...but if you're going to do that, you might as well just go for it. My thought is basically that you're going for it with the expectation that you probably won't covert it. The point is just that you're also not sacrificing much. It's hard separating "real life playcalling" from "video game playcalling" on that one because I definitely feel like IN MADDEN, it's a lot easier to pick up 11 yards than it is in real life. But I would also argue that IN MADDEN, you'd probably be better off "punting" by just throwing a hail mary...which is likely going to be intercepted at the goalline. I'm honestly really conflicted on this one because I feel like when you consider it was the 2nd quarter, a lot of coaches would probably punt...but only gaining 20 yards bothers me too. I'm trying to think of it as if I were playing defense, and I know I wouldn't trust a field goal or punt formation there and would probably call a pass heavy defense. Even if they DO punt...you're not going to return it anyway. And if they kick the field goal, who cares where your guys are on the field. And if they just go for it, you're ready to handle it anyway. Maybe that's why I'm conflicted. You could argue they SHOULD punt...but I wouldn't be expecting it if I was on defense either.

Well I think in real life a coach would punt the ball to force the opponent to start inside their own 20 (if you have a half decent punter anyway) since they're treating the game as a battle of field position at that point in the game. Going for it on a 4th and 11 just screams video-gamey Madden logic to me. I've been watching the NFL close to 20 years and I have NEVER seen a team do that in the first half...so it doesnt seem realistic at all.

tried setting up a madden daddy league site, ill post the url if it gets approved.

kody meyer out for 3 weeks. maybe skelton will stay if i put meyer on IR

I dont see anything wrong with the 4th and 11 since a fake FG from there wouldve been acceptable. The only exception would be if he saw you in punt return formation and hiked the ball while your defense is getting into position after an audible. I think if a team comes out in fg block or punt return on an unexpected 4th down or 2pt conversion attempt, it's just a nice gesture for the offense to wait and not be cheap. Not sure if that was the case or not.

Originally Posted by billymcdugal kody meyer out for 3 weeks. maybe skelton will stay if i put meyer on IR

I was gonna ask how long he was out for. Mccoy has a concussion, just as we were talking about it here. Not sure how long hes out for though

thank god i brought up concussions not RTC tears

Originally Posted by dr0ppinL0adz I dont see anything wrong with the 4th and 11 since a fake FG from there wouldve been acceptable. The only exception would be if he saw you in punt return formation and hiked the ball while your defense is getting into position after an audible. I think if a team comes out in fg block or punt return on an unexpected 4th down or 2pt conversion attempt, it's just a nice gesture for the offense to wait and not be cheap. Not sure if that was the case or not.

I still don't see how ya'll see it. Lol the way I see it is I'll just punt and pin them on like the 10. If I don't convert there like 25 yards away from field goal range.

I am going to play the CPU right now. I hope that's ok since I've been waiting for an owner. I'll be super busy the next two days and I don't want it too get simmed.

Games left:

Bucs vs Panthers (set for Sunday afternoon)
Saints vs Titans
Vikings vs Cowboys
Packers vs Giants
Jaguars vs Colts

Dang xbox froze 1st quater gonna restart.

Dang the cpu is woppin me hopefully i dont lose this game lol

Good game against the Bucs this afternoon. Frank Gore led the way on offense while 4 INTs on defense sealed the game. Panthers 35 Bucs 10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixBYrgTl404

yeah good game man...so many missed tackles by my LBs in this one. Several times I had Gore behind the line or close to it and he still broke a solid gain. Definitely missing Henderson out there. I had some success with Rice but you took Knox out pretty early with that injury which narrowed my passing game and I made some really crappy throws afterwards. That 2nd INT was brutal.

I'm now 4-6 and looking at my schedule the rest of the way its gonna be hard to even make .500. Saints twice, Texans, Packers, Lions at the end...ugh.

Originally Posted by CAGLeagueSports Well, the first criteria for this league is members reading and keeping up with the thread. I gave a fairly detailed opinion on it near the top of this page.

I read it but nearly half the season is still up for play. I don't understand why you want to have CPU users in the league. It makes no sense since they are a complete cake walk to play against. Sorry it just does not make sense to me especially when I have shown a desire to join and be active on CAG since joining.

Originally Posted by Mile High Von I read it but nearly half the season is still up for play. I don't understand why you want to have CPU users in the league. It makes no sense since they are a complete cake walk to play against. Sorry it just does not make sense to me especially when I have shown a desire to join and be active on CAG since joining.

Maybe just stick to the other league if you are having issues accepting the way our league commissioner feels. The way we are seeming to move forward is waiting until next season to have new players join. Either have patience and join up then or just don't commit to playing in this league. It is a waiting game at this point.

Originally Posted by Mile High Von I read it but nearly half the season is still up for play. I don't understand why you want to have CPU users in the league. It makes no sense since they are a complete cake walk to play against. Sorry it just does not make sense to me especially when I have shown a desire to join and be active on CAG since joining.

i know its frustrating but unfortunately n8 feels the way he does for very good reason. we've had some people who come in, and messed up a team then jet. I personally am not worried about you because I am in the other league and i've never seen anyone having a problem with you. But the commish is cautious for very good reason (especially considering we'll be at week 12 very soon.

Originally Posted by Mile High Von I read it but nearly half the season is still up for play. I don't understand why you want to have CPU users in the league. It makes no sense since they are a complete cake walk to play against. Sorry it just does not make sense to me especially when I have shown a desire to join and be active on CAG since joining.

You read where I gave my detailed reasoning for not wanting to bring in new members this late in the season, but you still feel the need to ask why? Multiple people even went on to reply and support the decision. If you can't grasp that, I don't know what to tell you.

But if you're going to start your time here questioning my judgment and griping about things (as you did with BV in the official league over the Manning/Haden trade), you're really not going to convince me to want to give you a team. This may come as a shock, but coming in as a brand new member to both the league and this website and telling people how to do things doesn't make a great first impression.

Wouldn't it be a good idea to just take the open teams out of the thread title and just have them in the OP till maybe week 15-playoff time? That way it's not advertising like we want people right now, and can do it closer to when people actually can join if waiting is what you want.

We could have people join and just have the teams on autopilot so the cpu doesn't do anything. I think that would be a good idea and we could get more people on the waiting list by keeping the teams "open." So if the people on autopilot decide to leave we could just replace them.