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Originally Posted by MysterD Nope. Though, I do pound through games pretty quickly - since I really do have no real life and all. I've already logged over 22 hours into Dark Souls: PTD, and I've had it since last Sunday.

Fair enough. Ah, MysterD... well, I've tried my best to save your wallet

Originally Posted by p-spiddy I'm not trying to hijack this thread, where is a thread on STEAM or is this it? Like trading codes or dropping codes for non-lurkers.

This is it! And for trading we use the "conveniently" titled "Steam Group Buy and Gift Requests thread": http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/...d.php?t=279563

Originally Posted by p-spiddy Like when I passed on the summer sale KOTOR for $2.50?

KOTOR is easily worth $2.50.
You see it again for that, TAKE IT.

So, 75% off or what I think is rational? Thanks, guys. No lie. You guys have helped me know when or when not to jump. It's sort of a skill depending on your wallet. Like CAG in general. Thanks.

Basically, yeah.

There's a lot of more detailed ideas from me and others on how to spend on Steam.

Also, check the competitors, too - Steam, GreenManGaming, Amazon DVG, Gamersgate, GameFly, and others often have good deals & some incentive programs, too - GMG might give you cash back; some might have extra percent off coupons; Gamersgate has BlueCoins; Amazon might give you a gift card for buying a specific game/bundle, etc etc.

This is especially true, since some games other digital services have activate up on Steam...especially true if it's known a certain game flat-out requires Steam EVERYWHERE.

Personally, I go where the best pricing; best amount of features/content; and/or least amount of DRM layers go. Depends on what hits first or what has the best combo of those elements for me. While I normally prefer DRM-FREE over everything, I don't expect that all the time...especially on new titles.

Originally Posted by MysterD As a CAG - my backlog can NEVER get HUGE enough. :P I made the mistake once of not purchasing a copy of System Shock 2 when I saw it on the shelves when I was younger, which currently NOW impossible to find (b/c of legal matters, EA, Irrational, and who knows what other reasons) - and I'll never make that mistake AGAIN. I eventually wound-up w/ a friend who hated the game giving me his copy. So grateful for such acts of kindness. Nope. Though, I do pound through games pretty quickly - since I really do have no real life and all. I've already logged over 22 hours into Dark Souls: PTD, and I've had it since last Sunday.

System Shock 2 was a game that kind of came out of nowhere for me (since I never finished the first game for some reason). I bought it from Babbages, because I enjoyed the first game and had followed the development in PC magazines. Awesome game and next to impossible to find even used nowadays. I wish by some miracle it could be released on Steam. However, that is probably never happen.

Did you run the patches for Dark Souls?

Originally Posted by evildeadjedi I would have loved Condemned 2 on PC so I could have both in one place. I'm not a huge Halo fan but I would love to see GOW 2 & 3 along with Fable 2 on PC. YES YES YES!!!!!!!! Red Dead Redemption needs to be on PC!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not a big Halo 1 fan - as I thought the first half of the game was awesome and how to design a FPS (tons of variety!); while the 2nd half was basically NOT how to design a FPS (cut & paste levels like the Monitor floors; the horrible Flood battles; tons of backtracking; etc - this part was obviously RUSHED).

I should get Halo 2 PC for the hell of it, if I can actually find it cheap somewhere...

I'd still love to see the rest of the Halo games on the PC - b/c it's freaking Halo. I prefer FPS's with a KB/mouse. And, of course, I'm love to throw all my PC settings to the max in-game and on my NVidia Control Panel.

RDR just needs to be on the PC. There ain't enough Western-setting games, as is. Throw in the fact Rockstar made it and that it's an open-world game - of course I want it here!

About Gears series and Fable 2 - Gears 1 was already here, so there's no need for rest of the series not to be here. If PCF actually ported the game decently (at that time), it would've sold better; and probably doesn't help w/ the PC version coming so late after GOW1 sold so well on the X-Box. Fable 2 - well, Fable 1 is here; Fable 3 is here - we just need Fable 2 here! I could careless about Fable: The Journey hitting the PC, honestly.

Originally Posted by yangwenli The Steam franchise packs this summer sale were pretty bad I felt. A lot of titles were missing from the set and you'd be pretty much better off buying them separately almost for the ones you really want. It's been pretty rare for games to go > 75% off lately on Steam and the best deal seems to be steam keys on Amazon in a bundle. Prices get knocked down to ~$1.50 - $2 / game which is about as low as I've seen. Looking forward to hopefully new price cuts or better deals this winter.

I suspect that as publishers add more and more games to their libraries, the days of the Publisher Complete Packs have gone by the wayside, and we've seen that the past few sales. They want to come in at that $50-75 price point without giving too much value and future sales potential away. The funny side effect is that someone who has been following sales and may already own one piece of a pack is getting a better deal by waiting for games to go on sale individually. This happened to me last summer with the Telltale pack; I already owned Sam & Max Complete and it was cheaper to wait for the other individual parts to go 75% off (they did) than to buy the complete pack.

I do miss the days of the complete packs. $75 for the SquareEnix/Eidos complete bundle in 2010 and the $50 Focus Home Interactive bundle in 2011 were amazing deals.

Originally Posted by evildeadjedi System Shock 2 was a game that kind of came out of nowhere for me (since I never finished the first game for some reason). I bought it from Babbages, because I enjoyed the first game and had followed the development in PC magazines. Awesome game and next to impossible to find even used nowadays. I wish by some miracle it could be released on Steam. However, that is probably never happen.

I never played SS1.
But, yeah - SS2 is really good, even though I never finished it. I should, since somebody went ahead and fixed it majorly, a few months back - so it'd run on modern systems!

Did you run the patches for Dark Souls?

Yep.

I'm running DSFix for Dark Souls, yes. I am keeping the game locked at 30 FPS without any hitched on my PC - since I'm playing online and don't want a G4WL ban. I got got most of the graphics features thrown up (i.e. VSSAO + HBAO).
I'm playing w/ X360 controller for Windows (USB-based) - KB/mouse felt WAY too clunky.
My PC = i7 950; 1 GB of GF GTX 560 Ti; Win 7 64-bit.

Awesome game - but BRUTALLY hard, if you don't think & don't strategize. "Prepare To Die Edition" should've been called "You're Already Dead Edition". You LEARN how to play often by watching your enemies kill you and learning their move-sets; watching other players die from touching their Bloodstains; and reading Messages on the ground left by other players that often give advice while in-game. Be prepared to die - A LOT.

Originally Posted by MysterD I'm not a big Halo 1 fan - as I thought the first half of the game was awesome and how to design a FPS (tons of variety!); while the 2nd half was basically NOT how to design a FPS (cut & paste levels like the Monitor floors; the horrible Flood battles; tons of backtracking; etc - this part was obviously RUSHED). I should get Halo 2 PC for the hell of it, if I can actually find it cheap somewhere... I'd still love to see the rest of the Halo games on the PC - b/c it's freaking Halo. I prefer FPS's with a KB/mouse. And, of course, I'm love to throw all my PC settings to the max in-game and on my NVidia Control Panel. RDR just needs to be on the PC. There ain't enough Western-setting games, as is. Throw in the fact Rockstar made it and that it's an open-world game - of course I want it here! About Gears series and Fable 2 - Gears 1 was already here, so there's no need for rest of the series not to be here. If PCF actually ported the game decently (at that time), it would've sold better; and probably doesn't help w/ the PC version coming so late after GOW1 sold so well on the X-Box. Fable 2 - well, Fable 1 is here; Fable 3 is here - we just need Fable 2 here! I could careless about Fable: The Journey hitting the PC, honestly.

I had the feelings on the first Halo. Honestly, if the other games were on PC and had online communities I would probably play them some.

Most definitely! It's a shame they never ported RDR. Did they ever port Red Dead Revolver?

Completely agree on Gears series and Fable 2. Fable 2 just by default needs to be on PC. Why port 1 and 3 but not 2?

Originally Posted by evildeadjedi I had the feelings on the first Halo. Honestly, if the other games were on PC and had online communities I would probably play them some. Most definitely! It's a shame they never ported RDR. Did they ever port Red Dead Revolver? Completely agree on Gears series and Fable 2. Fable 2 just by default needs to be on PC. Why port 1 and 3 but not 2?

Microsoft got away from PC when they began making TONS of money off X-Box; G4WL was considered an epic failure by PC gamers (and STILL IS); Steam began really taking over PC market (especially digital market); and b/c of concerns of rampant piracy, of course.

Red Dead Revolver never came to PC, nope.

Originally Posted by MysterD I never played SS1. But, yeah - SS2 is really good, even though I never finished it. I should, since somebody went ahead and fixed it majorly, a few months back - so it'd run on modern systems! Yep. I'm running DSFix for Dark Souls, yes. I am keeping the game locked at 30 FPS without any hitched on my PC - since I'm playing online and don't want a G4WL ban. I got got most of the graphics features thrown up (i.e. VSSAO + HBAO). I'm playing w/ X360 controller for Windows (USB-based) - KB/mouse felt WAY too clunky. My PC = i7 950; 1 GB of GF GTX 560 Ti; Win 7 64-bit. Awesome game - but BRUTALLY hard, if you don't think & don't strategize. "Prepare To Die Edition" should've been called "You're Already Dead Edition". You LEARN how to play often by watching your enemies kill you and learning their move-sets; watching other players die from touching their Bloodstains; and reading Messages on the ground left by other players that often give advice while in-game. Be prepared to die - A LOT.

Graphics on SS1 are very dated but the gameplay was excellent.

The patches work well with SS 2. There is even a texture upgrade patch that cleans up a bit. Very nice! I can't wait to play DS on PC.

Did you ever play Demon's Souls on ps3?

That game was brutal.

I know how difficult that game is and I've heard about the difficulty in DS. Definitely welcome the challenge though.

Originally Posted by MysterD Microsoft got away from PC when they began making TONS of money off X-Box; G4WL was considered an epic failure by PC gamers (and STILL IS); Steam began really taking over PC market (especially digital market); and b/c of concerns of rampant piracy, of course. Red Dead Revolver never came to PC, nope.

Oh yes I remember that. But, why bring Fable 3 to PC?

Hmmm so, all of Rockstar's games except for the Red Dead series have been ported to PC?

Interesting....

Before I head off to watch Houston crush the Bills, I'm pspiddy on STEAM. I share an account with my wife...ahhh...no excuses...I just suck and/or don't care about trophies! SEGA!

Originally Posted by evildeadjedi Graphics on SS1 are very dated but the gameplay was excellent. The patches work well with SS 2. There is even a texture upgrade patch that cleans up a bit.

These new SS2, Thief 1 + 2 unofficial patches work great!
I'll have to take a look sometime at the texture upgrade for SS2!

Very nice! I can't wait to play DS on PC.

Yeah, it's pretty good.
Last week, Amazon DVG had Dark Souls: PTD for $20. It was my birthday present, basically.

Did you ever play Demon's Souls on ps3?

Nope.
For better and for worse, I ain't owned a console since the original PlayStation, actually.

Originally Posted by evildeadjedi Oh yes I remember that. But, why bring Fable 3 to PC?

I think Peter Molyneux insisted - b/c he talked numerous times in interviews about wanting to bring Fable 3 to PC, before it even came out here.
Molyneux has VERY strong PC gamer routes - especially from his Bullfrog years & his earlier Lionhead days.

Hmmm so, all of Rockstar's games except for the Red Dead series have been ported to PC? Interesting....

The Warriors (video game) never came here, either.

EDIT:
Oh, most of Midnight Club racing games never hit the PC.
Midnight Club 2 did hit PC, though.

System Shock (1) left quite an impression on me back in the day. It was also the first good 3D engine I played. (Recall DOOM used a 2.5-D engine.) It kinda blazed the path for later 3D games. It looks like there is good info in getting SS1 & SS2 running on the forums: http://www.systemshock.org/index.php

Originally Posted by asheskitty System Shock (1) left quite an impression on me back in the day. It was also the first good 3D engine I played. (Recall DOOM used a 2.5-D engine.) It kinda blazed the path for later 3D games. It looks like there is good info in getting SS1 & SS2 running on the forums: http://www.systemshock.org/index.php

Nice find!

There's also lots of good info on SS series & Thief series here, too:
http://www.ttlg.com/forums/forum.php?

Originally Posted by MysterD These new SS2, Thief 1 + 2 unofficial patches work great! I'll have to take a look sometime at the texture upgrade for SS2! Yeah, it's pretty good. Last week, Amazon DVG had Dark Souls: PTD for $20. It was my birthday present, basically. Nope. For better and for worse, I ain't owned a console since the original PlayStation, actually.

I need to pickup that Thief pack next time it's on sale (picked up Deadly Shadows awhile ago).

Happy Birthday and that's a nice b-day present!

Oh wow well you have missed some nice exclusives, especially on Playstation.

Originally Posted by MysterD I think Peter Molyneux insisted - b/c he talked numerous times in interviews about wanting to bring Fable 3 to PC, before it even came out here. Molyneux has VERY strong PC gamer routes - especially from his Bullfrog years. The Warriors (video game) never came here, either. EDIT: Oh, most of Midnight Club racing games never hit the PC. Midnight Club 2 did hit PC, though.

Oh okay that makes sense. He definitely does Bullfrog made some fine titles like Syndicate, Populous and of course Dungeon Keeper.

Oh that's right! I completely forgot about The Warriors! That was a very fun game by the way (I liked it so much I beat it on PS2 and PSP). I was also a fan of the original movie and it felt like a prequel to the film for most of the game.

Midnight Club was an okay series. I didn't realize the first game never made it to PC.
Hmmm.... Smuggler's Run 1 or 2 also never made it to PC either. I think in the early life of PS2 Midnight Club, Smuggler's Run, and Oni were all PS2 exclusives. They still are since none of the titles made it to any other system.

Originally Posted by evildeadjedi I need to pickup that Thief pack next time it's on sale (picked up Deadly Shadows awhile ago). Happy Birthday and that's a nice b-day present! Oh wow well you have missed some nice exclusives, especially on Playstation.

Yes - Uncharted series; God Of War series; Rez; Megal Gear Solid series; and any of the Team Ico games come to mind.

Also, for games just on either M$ or Sony consoles - Mega Man Anniversary Collection comes to mind, as well.
Also, missed-out on especially Mortal Kombat 9.

Oh okay that makes sense. He definitely does Bullfrog made some fine titles like Syndicate, Populous and of course Dungeon Keeper.

Also, in his earlier Lionhead days...
Black & White series on the PC.
He also developed The Movies (game), as well.

EDIT:

Oh that's right! I completely forgot about The Warriors! That was a very fun game by the way (I liked it so much I beat it on PS2 and PSP). I was also a fan of the original movie and it felt like a prequel to the film for most of the game.

I hate to say this...don't think I seen The Warriors movie, nevermind never actually playing the game. :-X

Midnight Club was an okay series. I didn't realize the first game never made it to PC. Hmmm.... Smuggler's Run 1 or 2 also never made it to PC either. I think in the early life of PS2 Midnight Club, Smuggler's Run, and Oni were all PS2 exclusives. They still are since none of the titles made it to any other system.

Midnight Club 2 PC was good, but for some reason - really didn't have the staying power for me. Why? I don't know.
I really liked NFS: Most Wanted 2005 & Carbon, though.

For recent racers - I really liked Burnout: Paradise TUB; DIRT 2; and Test Drive Unlimited 2.

I'd like to propose that we stop pretending Vampire the Masquerade sales are rare anymore.

It used to be true that it was a game that never got discounted, but we're at the point where it's 5 dollars for every major sale consistently.

Jade Empire and Call of Cthulu on the other hand. Those are still rare sales.

Oops, I dropped something.

Originally Posted by MysterD For recent racers - I really liked Burnout: Paradise TUB; DIRT 2; and Test Drive Unlimited 2.

Hmm, a TDU2 endorsement... I haven't see one before from someone with a good taste in racers. I suppose I'll consider picking it up when it hits $5 again (though I really hope for $2.50 or $3.75).

Originally Posted by evildeadjedi Midnight Club was an okay series. I didn't realize the first game never made it to PC. Hmmm.... Smuggler's Run 1 or 2 also never made it to PC either. I think in the early life of PS2 Midnight Club, Smuggler's Run, and Oni were all PS2 exclusives. They still are since none of the titles made it to any other system.

Oni was released simultaneously on Mac/Win/PS2. I remember well because it ran well on my PowerBook... you know back when Macs were rare. ...so did Diablo II. Oddly I own Oni on Mac, Win, & PS2 (it's my only triple-dipped title, I think).