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CAGcast #296: Mark, The Ninja

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Old 09-13-2012, 02:14 AM   #81
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I think you guys sold me on Mark of the Ninja, I heard good things but it just sounded really awesome so I downloaded the demo and loved it. Plopped down my points for it right away and with all that 9 hours+ of gameplay I'm sure I will get my moneys worth here. Thanks for that.

I agree with Cheapy regarding the price point, I think Nintendo wants to get below $300 since $250 sounds like a great price for a new console. I would not put it past them to charge $350 since I also expect those controllers to get close to $100.

I would like a chance to get a Walking Dead 360 code!
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Old 09-13-2012, 03:47 AM   #82
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a. Batman gets injured a lot, its part of the character, not a reason to stop being batman.

b. He was depressed when his parents were killed too, you know what he did, HE BECAME BATMAN!

c. better plot device, its not really the Dent Act that solved the crime problem, but Batman still secretly being Batman that has kept crime down. The Dent Act is just the story Gordon uses to keep the press of Batman's trail.
But you implying that it was because of revenge? That made no sense.

A.In this version, batman is actually supposed to be human you know, did you miss that?
B. I guess you don't want character development.
C.Nope, the Dent act made a big dent in crime because it kept the criminals in jail, and it wasnt a revolving door of criminals for Batman to take care of.
D. Give me a code.
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Old 09-13-2012, 05:46 AM   #83
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Wombat,

I know you've got a fantasy football high, but don't attempt to rip-off 'the board' from Fantasy Focus Football. It was really awkward. 'Top Analyst' worked better for the CAG-cast when you followed through on it. That being said, I would like to see you in the Man's League.
We started doing the bets a year ago, when we did I talked about Fantasy Focus and that it was their idea. I wasn't trying to do anything shady, more of an homage to a show I enjoy.
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Old 09-13-2012, 08:00 AM   #84
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We were talking about Vita exclusive titles. Maybe we weren't clear, but that's what we were discussing.
Ahh. Ok. In that case, I agree we won't be seeing any Vita games in the top 10.
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Old 09-13-2012, 08:46 AM   #85
I want to know two things. 1. Is Double Dragon Neon the first Teen rated game where you can punch hookers in the gut and they always seem to suffer from a wardrobe malfunction where you can see their boobs spilling out? And: 2. Is Cheapy going to play DD:N with Tai?


PS: I would love to hear 'Wreck compare and contrast DD:N with Mark, the Ninja on the next podcast. Those two games are about as polar opposite as it gets IMO. And mount up a hoop on top of that basement TV you have setup for Baller Beatz...you just know you gonna wanna bust off a quick jump shot after nailing a bunch of beats. (I recommend getting a screen protector for your TV beforehand)

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Old 09-13-2012, 09:16 AM   #86
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But you implying that it was because of revenge? That made no sense.

A.In this version, batman is actually supposed to be human you know, did you miss that?
B. I guess you don't want character development.
C.Nope, the Dent act made a big dent in crime because it kept the criminals in jail, and it wasnt a revolving door of criminals for Batman to take care of.
D. Give me a code.
A. Batman is always human, it's his ability to overcome that makes him great.

B. That isn't character development, it is a plot device and a lousy one at that.

C. The Dent Act stopped Organized Crime, but not all crime. It should not be above Batman to stop muggers and rapists

D. I don't have the codes.
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Old 09-13-2012, 09:42 AM   #87
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A. Batman is always human, it's his ability to overcome that makes him great.

B. That isn't character development, it is a plot device and a lousy one at that.

C. The Dent Act stopped Organized Crime, but not all crime. It should not be above Batman to stop muggers and rapists

D. I don't have the codes.
It's not like he never quit being Batman in the comics. When Jean-Paul Valley took over for him after Knightfall, Bruce had decided to retire and let Valley keep the mantle. It wasn't until either Dick or Tim brought up to him what was going on behind the scenes that he decided to put in the effort to be Batman again.

But I'm guessing if you hated that 8 year gap, You hated the end as well with him stop being Batman and letting others do the work he was devoted in doing in the first place?

Regarding Banes voice, I hated it. Not because it sounded terrible, but because it was so loud. Some people said it was fine in their theater, but when he spoke, his voice was booming and everyone else I could barely hear. His however, was so loud it was unintelligible. But in terms of HOW he spoke, I really liked it. It fit in well with what Ra's said in the original film about "theatrics", and Bane seemed to do well with that in terms of how he spoke.
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Old 09-13-2012, 10:00 AM   #88
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It's not like he never quit being Batman in the comics. When Jean-Paul Valley took over for him after Knightfall, Bruce had decided to retire and let Valley keep the mantle. It wasn't until either Dick or Tim brought up to him what was going on behind the scenes that he decided to put in the effort to be Batman again.

But I'm guessing if you hated that 8 year gap, You hated the end as well with him stop being Batman and letting others do the work he was devoted in doing in the first place?

Regarding Banes voice, I hated it. Not because it sounded terrible, but because it was so loud. Some people said it was fine in their theater, but when he spoke, his voice was booming and everyone else I could barely hear. His however, was so loud it was unintelligible. But in terms of HOW he spoke, I really liked it. It fit in well with what Ra's said in the original film about "theatrics", and Bane seemed to do well with that in terms of how he spoke.
He didn't want to quit being Batman, he had a broken back. It took time to heal. Also he even at that point it was established that he had been Batman for a while. In the movies he is Batman for maybe 2 years, then takes an 8 year break.
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Old 09-13-2012, 10:22 AM   #89
I just read the first volume of The Walking Dead graphic novels and I couldn't put that shit down.

I would love to win a code for The Walking Dead Episode 3.
Thanks
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:03 AM   #90
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He didn't want to quit being Batman, he had a broken back. It took time to heal. Also he even at that point it was established that he had been Batman for a while. In the movies he is Batman for maybe 2 years, then takes an 8 year break.
This was after his back was broken. He had went to Gotham and saw how well Jean-Paul had been doing as Batman and figured he was done. Then he heard the stories of how "The System" was starting to influence Jean-Paul again and decided to confront him. When Jean-Paul told him to leave, he did, but he went to go train again to take the mantle back.

Then you could always make the argument of Earth 2 Batman and when he quit to live with Selina.

It's not the same Batman in the comics, and it's easier when you can split the two and realize this is Nolan's interpretation of a more real-world Batman. Yes it's just as ridiculous that a simple leg machine can heal him enough to get around just like having his back punched many times can heal his back. But I don't think that's any worse than saying he is healed by supernatural/magical means like he was in the comics.

As many interpretations of Batman as there has been, I don't see why this one would be such a problem when it's in line with a few comic versions of him.

Though had they turned him into a vampire like Batman:Red Rain, I think it could have given this movie an extra edge. Maybe in the new reboot...
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:19 AM   #91
$299 for entry level Wii U package. $349 for the deluxe package including a game, 4x storage, enrollment in Nintendo premium rewards, etc.

But they priced it so you have to buy the $349 package unless you're an idiot.

IT came in higher priced than I thought it was going to come in. I thought they would hit $249.

I did notice that Reggie specifically said MSRP when announcing the pricing in a way that led me to believe that there is room for deals on this thing up front for retailers to offer.
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:34 AM   #92
Glad you guys are back. I missed the show. Have you ever thought about doing a longer show? Also I'm interested in a 360 walking dead code.
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Old 09-13-2012, 12:06 PM   #93
Wombat, great points on the Dark Knight Rises. I purchased Mark of the Ninjaa on day one, and have loved playing it. Really well done.
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Old 09-13-2012, 12:11 PM   #94
Cheapy, if you like the DC Comics DVD movies you should check out the Young Justice animated series. At first it focuses on just the sidekicks but they take it seriously. No Teen Titans goofiness. Pretty soon in integrates with the grown-up Justice League too. The version of the DC Universe in this show is better than what's currently in the comics.

(Walking Dead 3 for Xbox 360 please.)
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Old 09-13-2012, 12:27 PM   #95
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Was it just me or was the audio for the TwitchTV CAGcast really really bad? It kept going in and out, and as much as I would love to hear more about the nude pic Cheapy showed the crowd, I had to stop listening.
Same here! I thought maybe my iphone was shaq-fuing it up.

Totally agree with Cheapy about the bane voice. It just struck me as so obvious that it was a separate recording. The motions and expressions of the bane actor were completely mismatched with the voice. I was blown away by how crappy this was done on an otherwise excellently executed movie.

Also I'd love to try out Walking Dead, and so please put my name in the hat. Thanks!
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Old 09-13-2012, 12:27 PM   #96
GREAT episode this week guys. A combination of having more time between eps and a lot of stuff to talk about made for an entertaining listen.

I especially liked the Sushi talk and WiiU guessing. Interesting that Nintendo didn't pack in a Wii-mote in either bundles - I don't think I would have noticed this if you guys didn't bring it up.

Also, I'd love to get Episode 3 Walking Dead if it's an Xbox360 code.

Thanks!
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Old 09-13-2012, 12:39 PM   #97
I'm in the extreme minority that believes that TDKR gets worse the more it is looked at. I walked out of the theater extremely disappointed and my dislike of the movie only grows.

There are just way too many plot holes in the story to make it worthwhile. I'll leave my list off this post.

Maybe if I saw it baked, it would be better.

With regard to The Walking Dead, I'd be happy with a code for 360. I'm going to play the game eventually, once I find time to get back to my xbox.

Great work as always on the CAGCast. You're still my #1 podcast.
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Old 09-13-2012, 12:55 PM   #98
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Regarding Banes voice, I hated it. Not because it sounded terrible, but because it was so loud. Some people said it was fine in their theater, but when he spoke, his voice was booming and everyone else I could barely hear. His however, was so loud it was unintelligible. But in terms of HOW he spoke, I really liked it. It fit in well with what Ra's said in the original film about "theatrics", and Bane seemed to do well with that in terms of how he spoke.
I also liked it, but in the IMAX theater I went to it wasn't overly loud compared to the rest of the audio.

His best line was definitely "Do you feel in charge?"

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when Vulture caught up with Hardy at last night's Dark Knight Rises premiere, we asked him to explain the inspiration. "It's based on a guy named Bartley Gorman," he told us. (So, not Mr. Belevedere?) "He's the king of the gypsies, and he's a boxer, a bare-knuckle boxer, an Irish traveler, a gypsy."
http://www.vulture.com/2012/07/tom-h...spiration.html
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Old 09-13-2012, 01:08 PM   #99
LOL, love that you guys admit to having shit stains.
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Old 09-13-2012, 01:10 PM   #100
You guys need to play Double Dragon Neon immediately, loving the game so far.

Also if you have a Walking Dead Episode 3 for ps3 up for grabs that would rock
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