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Hockey is back on

They'd be crazy to lockout the whole season. You have to remember, this was the owners doing this. The players were fine just renewing the existing deal. The owners are trying to claim that they've been losing money, but everything I've seen has shown an increase in revenue since the last lockout. Another factor and HUGE money maker that they didn't have in 2005 was the Winter Classic. Losing the revenue that that event brings in would just be foolish. It's sad, but it appears that both sides will have to start losing money before they can begin to work together. But my guess is we'll see hockey before Thanksgiving.

But but but.......L.A Kings banner ceremony!!! We've been waiting for 45 years!!!

Has a 2012-13 thread been started yet? I'd be happy to, unless anyone has any objections.

Originally Posted by shieryda Has a 2012-13 thread been started yet? I'd be happy to, unless anyone has any objections.

I'd hold off for now, there might not even be a season.

It could always be updated with news from the talks.

Originally Posted by sendme It could always be updated with news from the talks.

Yeah, but there's only so many times you can post "Millionaires arguing".

Man, I'd love to cross check Bettman into the boards.

We could post videos of Stamkos doing the Gary Roberts workout.

The league posted record revenues: 3.3 billion. The owners would be absolutely stupid to lockout the league. The NHL has been on the rise since the last lockout and another one would kill that. I don't understand why the owners want the players to take such a big cut. 57/43 is a lot for the players which is the current one, but why the hell cant they compromise at 50/50 or 49/51? Greedy bastards all around might cost us hockey

But they will...

Idiots.

Originally Posted by slickkill77 The league posted record revenues: 3.3 billion. The owners would be absolutely stupid to lockout the league. The NHL has been on the rise since the last lockout and another one would kill that. I don't understand why the owners want the players to take such a big cut. 57/43 is a lot for the players which is the current one, but why the hell cant they compromise at 50/50 or 49/51? Greedy bastards all around might cost us hockey

The split already is 50/50 if you look at total revenue and not "hockey related revenue" as they want to define it

It's rich people telling less-rich people they'll get nothing and like it, welcome to capitalist America

One more week...

Originally Posted by ElwoodCuse The split already is 50/50 if you look at total revenue and not "hockey related revenue" as they want to define it It's rich people telling less-rich people they'll get nothing and like it, welcome to capitalist America

Oh ok. I wasn't sure of the specifics.

No official lock-out, just no new CBA and more talks to be scheduled before training camps begin:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=641628

I'm not sure I understand that distinction, shieryda. Especially when the news reports are all saying "lock out," along with the unanimous NHL owners' vote from Thursday.

I think it is that they have till the training camps start to get a CBA. If they don't have one by then, then the lockout starts. With the way both sides are acting I don't see an agreement before then.

Well we got players signing over in Europe already. Any guesses on when the NHL will start up? I'm going to guess November. Deep inside though I fear there will be no NHL until after the new year.

Originally Posted by shieryda No official lock-out, just no new CBA and more talks to be scheduled before training camps begin: http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=641628

Yeah, that's more of a technicality than anything. All it means is that nothing has had to be officially cancelled yet. But Bettman stated numerous times, without a new CBA, there will be no hockey. I'd also be surprised if either side is very eager to talk at this point. It seems the writing is on the wall.

Seems like Bettman and the owners don't even want to have a season just to stick it to the players. The people it hurts more though are the fans. I'm wondering if the NHL can even recover. Hell if their is a season I might just say the hell with it and start watching the CHL team St. Charles MO just got.