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Really nice podcast, as usual! Nice to hear someone else uses KBM for BL2 as well. I can aim so much better with a mouse
I'd love a half-minute hero code if they're still available, thanks!

CheapyD sounds sexy as always, I love these CAGcasts! CheapyD for president.

P.S. I'd love to have a half minute hero code

Seems like everyone got sick around the time Borderlands came out. I sure did. Funny how staying up way too late for too many days in a row can do that to you.

I had the same problems playing co-op BL 1 as you're having now. I got in late with a pal who was already pretty far into the game so he just ran through the early missions. So far, I've lucked out playing with good friends who are willing to take time, explore, and discuss. Makes all the difference.

Also, put me in for a Half Minute Hero code. That game looks cool.

Not to get all "leave Wombat alone!" here but seriously, how is it that we're on episode #298 and people are still complaining about Wombat? If he weren't on the CAGcast, each episode would just devolve into discussions about obscure documentaries and Baller Beats. Shipwreck would have a new segment each week called "Eat This Bitches" where he discusses some weird food that Cincinnatians enjoy. I'm not sure I want to live in that world and neither do any of you. Think about it.

I completely get the aversion to the Wiimotes but look at it from a parent's standpoint. You've plunged hundreds into your child's Wii system--buying everything from games to extra remotes to a plastic balance board--and now your child wants a brand new system. That purchase looks a heck of a lot nicer if you find out that all those extra Wiimotes you bought aren't just going into the trash.

You guys are like a bunch of grade schoolers arguing the Genesis vs the Super Nintendo. And for a person who likes playing both Nintendo games and non-Nintendo games, you're making it difficult to enjoy the show.

Every console and every game is flawed in some way. But we look past it when it's something we like. I get why you're unhappy with Nintendo, but I don't get the fuss. It's like someone complaining about Baller Beats because you have to bounce a basketball and use kinect and follow the beat. Nintendo is what it is.

And for the Wiimotes, Nintendo is putting out that pro controller so you can just use that. You won't have to use a Wiimote at all.

Originally Posted by buttle Every console and every game is flawed in some way. But we look past it when it's something we like. I get why you're unhappy with Nintendo, but I don't get the fuss. It's like someone complaining about Baller Beats because you have to bounce a basketball and use kinect and follow the beat. Nintendo is what it is. And for the Wiimotes, Nintendo is putting out that pro controller so you can just use that. You won't have to use a Wiimote at all.

I kind of agree with what you're saying. It does bother me a little that the trio is blatantly dismissing the Wii U and criticizing everything about it, though they have certain points. However, I'm actually the one person who really likes the Wiimote. I feel like playing Zelda/Mario with wiimote + nunchuk is enjoyable, while 2D games with the Wiimote sideways is UNMATCHED.

For the record, I also think the Xbox 360 is the best controller by far. Using the Wiimote is not necessarily more enjoyable than a traditional controller, but I don't complain about it at all and it's certainly not a valid reason to refuse playing those games. However, I do have to agree that the Wii had a design inconvenience that unfortunately is going to be even worse on the Wii U, and that is:

THERE ARE TOO MANY CONTROL METHODS! NO STANDARDIZATION

Let's see, we have:
Wiimote
Wiimote sideways
Wiimote + Nunchuk
Wiimote + Classic Controller
Gamecube Controller (on older Wiis)
Wiimote Plus
Wiimote Plus + Nunchuk

And now also:
Wii U Gamepad
Wii U Pro Controller

I'm not even counting the Wii Balance Board, or the 1000's of useless plastic attachments (wii zapper *cough cough*)

While the Wii/Wii U consoles may be small in size, that extra space will be taken up by the ridiculous amount of plastic controllers you need to have access to every game. As the CAG crew pointed out, if you want to play your Xbox, you only need the Xbox controller and you are set to go.

In the end, it would have been much worse, I think, if Nintendo did not support the old Wii controllers. There would be much more criticism. So they made the logical choice, however it doesn't make this situation any less annoying.

Cheapy. You're always slamming on the PS3 download times, but then you're throwing out some ridiculous time frames on how long it takes to download something. The PS3 does download slower than the 360, seems around 3/4 the speed, but are you running 1Mb/s download or something, because the times you mention seem a really long time?

The last large title I remember downloading was Ratchet and Clank All 4 One at 14GB, which was one of the offered games on PS+(and also sucks balls btw,) but I think it finished downloading in four hours on a fat PS3. It's quite a large file so it seems like a reasonable time. My download speed is 20Mb/s.

The wireless sucks though. Shipwreck should do whatever possible to get the PS3 wired. I rearranged where everything was located so I could get my router closer to my PS3 just so I could run wired because of how bad the wireless is.

As for Half Minute Hero, I'd like to get a copy.

Originally Posted by mr.ratburn THERE ARE TOO MANY CONTROL METHODS! NO STANDARDIZATION

Yea, I'm kind of hoping that the Wiimote does fade away, just for the sake of having a standard. Unless a game is made specifically for it like boom blox or something.

Though I would love it if Nintendo came out with a perfect 2d platformer controller. With just the basic SNES buttons but a more confortable shape.

Originally Posted by kupomogli The wireless sucks though. Shipwreck should do whatever possible to get the PS3 wired. I rearranged where everything was located so I could get my router closer to my PS3 just so I could run wired because of how bad the wireless is.

The wifi performance seems good on my PS3 slim, so maybe they improved the antenna from the one in the original PS3.

Cheapy should probably get RE 6 when it comes out on the PC sometime next year with much improved graphics running at 60 fps. As you guys seemed to realize, Arthur Gies is full of shit. He hypes himself up as being a harsh reviewer, and then hands out 9s to unremarkable games like Transfomers War For Cybertron. Every review he produces seems to be the result of a predetermined agenda.

Great show. Loving you guys even more that Cheapy and Ship have hopped on the PC bandwagon. The 360 controller vs KBM discussion caught my ear. I've always been a PC gamer, but there are some games that I do use a controller for, so I can sympathize with Ship. Borderlands 2 is actually one of them. For some reason, I absolutely hate the aim down sight mechanic when it comes to keyboard/mouse (probably because old school PC shooters did not have this at all, and I've only been exposed to it with console shooters). Some games it is nice to just sit back with a controller in hand and go to town.

Checked out the Half Minute Hero vids and it definitely looks fun. Would love a chance to try it out if I'm one of the lucky few.

Cheapy get your son a otterbox or something along those lines for the next IPhone you give him. That way he doesn't break this one.

Have to agree with the Wii complaints. Though I think third party support (IE all games coming out on EVERY system, not just 360 and PS3) and online hurt them the most for me. They are addressing the online issues or so it seems. Third party is wait and see because while they have a big launch lineup if sales suck some third parties might bow out but I think they'll do fine.

Agree with Zer0. Very tough pre-level 31 and he seems to be the most difficult to use. However I am not using him as a sniper and more of a SMG/then run at you and melee for the finish character. In general the game seems much harder then BL1 for the first few levels. But I also play alone most of the time. Zero so far is my favorite of the new characters, runner up being Maya and then the Zerker. Axton is Roland so basically the easiest to run with. I have a feeling the Zerker is probably the most used character based on friend list activity, almost no one uses Axton on my list.

Originally Posted by metallicoholic I completely get the aversion to the Wiimotes but look at it from a parent's standpoint. You've plunged hundreds into your child's Wii system--buying everything from games to extra remotes to a plastic balance board--and now your child wants a brand new system. That purchase looks a heck of a lot nicer if you find out that all those extra Wiimotes you bought aren't just going into the trash.

But that's been the way the video games industry has operated forever. The NES didn't meld into the SNES. The SNES didn't meld into the N64. And so on and so forth. Why does it need to change today? Especially when the parents are starting to become people who may have once played video games themselves. They'd understand.
I'm not saying I want everything to automatically become obsolete, but in the case of the Wiimote, I'm all for it.

Loved Shipwreck's rant against the wiimote. I'm not a big Nintendo guy but what really prevented me from ever giving the wii much of a chance is the wiimote. It's just an awful controller and I couldn't enjoy playing anything with it.

Also wouldn't mind being in the drawing for a last minute hero code.

Originally Posted by killthemall4444 Loved Shipwreck's rant against the wiimote. I'm not a big Nintendo guy but what really prevented me from ever giving the wii much of a chance is the wiimote. It's just an awful controller and I couldn't enjoy playing anything with it. Also wouldn't mind being in the drawing for a last minute hero code.

I absolutely agree, and am glad to hear i'm not in the minority. nintendo had something revolutionary, but it was only good in select games. they failed to capitalize on that fact, and expected everyone to to be happy with a sub-par controller in every other game :(


Also, I'l like a half-minute hero code is possible!

Originally Posted by buttle Yea, I'm kind of hoping that the Wiimote does fade away, just for the sake of having a standard. Unless a game is made specifically for it like boom blox or something. Though I would love it if Nintendo came out with a perfect 2d platformer controller. With just the basic SNES buttons but a more confortable shape.

They did:
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It's just too bad they forced movement controls on every game, like shake the wiimote to make Donkey Kong roll or ground pound...wtf, it's called a button press, I'd rather do that. Or shield block in Zelda means you have to shake the nun-chuck, ugg.

Thanks for the show notes Bickle!

The CAGcast crew slightly mentioned about how so many games just came out, or are coming out. I'd like to say, where was all this activity for Spring/Summer? Was such a dull time for games. I get why they release near end of year, but it's getting overflow. The average gamer is not going to buy all these games at release at once, who has that much gaming time? So imo they are missing out on release price sales.

Love the guys.

First I ended up buying an Apple Tv since Cheapy is always talking about it, FREAKING AWESOME!

I"m a PS3 guy myself so I'm glad Cheapy is off MS's nuts (x360) and playing on the PC, I pretty much won't buy a game for my Windows partition if I can't use a controller over a K/M.

People complaining about Wombat is nothing new, personally he's oversensitive and to PC(politically correct) but I honestly feel the show is awesome because of his presence.

I figured you'd like to know Cheapy, that Tokyo Jungle is extremely repetitive and frustrating - I couldn't agree more with the excerpts from that review you mentioned - I was initially captivated but the difficulty is extremely high and the game takes a lot of cheap shot, especially for the household pets such as the initial Pomeranian dog you have to use. I would like to add that the the general style and art direction is really impressive although rough around the edges but the level design is sub-par in many different ways(read: confusing as hell). Thanks again, you guys, for the excellent show!!!
... I'd also like to know if I could be entered in the drawing for 'Half-Minute Hero'!

Resident Evil 6 seems solid but I don't think I'm going to buy it either, I can wait until it goes down in price. Resident Evil used to be a series that I would buy the games on day one, but since 4 I just wait until the inevitable price drop.

I would like the Half-Minute Hero code.

Great podcast as usual, always enjoy listening to you guys. It was mentioned before in this thread, but there has certainly been a lot of Cheapy talking up the pc versions of games lately, makes me a bit jealous, even caught myself looking into upgrading my pc, then I was like wait, this is why I prefer console, don't have to worry about upgrading to get the latest and greatest, besides I'd have to buy my wife a new laptop before I could upgrade my pc, and of course a new tablet is on her priority list (will it ever end?!)

Originally Posted by Curufinwe How big is that game? I downloaded and installed the FIFA 13 demo using wifi from PSN on Saturday in 10 minutes and it was 1.5 GB.

Tokyo Jungle File Size: 2.4 GB


One Piece took me about 4hours to download and install. It has no English Dub but has English subtitles.

A fun game to purchase