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Sometimes I think it's a principal thing, they don't want to do it out of principal, has nothing to do with money.

Originally Posted by Clak Sometimes I think it's a principal thing, they don't want to do it out of principal, has nothing to do with money.

No it's a money thing. 5 cents or 15 cents per pizza, whatever it is adds up to alot of money. It's let them eat pie - the head of Papa Johns would rather live in a storybook castle then pay for his worker's healthcare, it's that simple.

I guess that's why I'd be horrible at business then, I just can't have that attitude. I couldn't weigh a few cents lost on a pizza vs my employees having access to good health care, to me that's a no-brainer.

I wonder if toilet paper sales will go up within three days of this "event"

Originally Posted by dmaul1114 I'd 100% support prices on everything I buy going up if its due to offering workers more access to health insurance and other benefits, better wages etc. I already do so by buying toiletries etc at Target rather than Walmart, supporting local shops when possible etc.

Target is no better than Walmart. Same anti-union, crap wages and non-benefits product in a red wrapper, instead of a blue one. The only thing Target has going for it is it has much less instances of destroying small town economies by bullying their way in (which is likely more a result of their smaller size rather than altruism).

Originally Posted by camoor No it's a money thing. 5 cents or 15 cents per pizza, whatever it is adds up to alot of money. It's let them eat pie - the head of Papa Johns would rather live in a storybook castle then pay for his worker's healthcare, it's that simple.

dont like it then dont work for them... NOONE OWES ANYONE HEATHCARE

just like the little sob at walmart saying we STRIKE Unless you pay us 13 bucks per hour ... LOL your lucky you make 7.50 an hour standing around walmart doing nothing


why should GM make a profit they should give everyone FREE NEW CARS EVERY YEAR


obamacare is the reason the insurance is skyrocking but noone will blame him for the crap he caused


Can put this to reason..

Hey if you want to pay 15 cents more for your pizza so we get health insurance then you can pay 50 cents to a buck more per pizza so we make 12 bucks per hour .... hell then you can pay 50 cents more for a pizza so kids working at papa johns can go to college for free... HELL LETS PAY 10 bucks more per pizza so everyone can get their house payments paid for them from people buying pizzas

Oh for 's sake, does this indicate another month long bender of slidecage in VS. forums? There goes the neighborhood (again).

Originally Posted by RedvsBlue Oh for 's sake, does this indicate another month long bender of slidecage in VS. forums? There goes the neighborhood (again).

saying if you want to pay

xxxx more for a pizza to pay for their health insurance


then why not

xxxx more for a pay raise
xxxxx more for free college
xxxx more for free cars for the drivers

ect ect ect

Originally Posted by slidecage saying if you want to pay xxxx more for a pizza to pay for their health insurance then why not xxxx more for a pay raise xxxxx more for free college xxxx more for free cars for the drivers ect ect ect

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Originally Posted by RedvsBlue Target is no better than Walmart. Same anti-union, crap wages and non-benefits product in a red wrapper, instead of a blue one. The only thing Target has going for it is it has much less instances of destroying small town economies by bullying their way in (which is likely more a result of their smaller size rather than altruism).

They're not a great company, but far better than Wal-mart. Have known people who worked for both, got better pay and treatment form Target. Though still shitty like all retailers.

But just not much option for things like pet food, toiletries etc. Pretty much big box stores like Target or pay more at the grocery stores (that also treat their employees pretty crummy most of the time).

So just a matter of picking the lesser evil for those types of things. And also factoring in shopping experience. Targets around here (and the other couple places I've lived) are much cleaner, better organized, have better quality products and better service.

Originally Posted by slidecage dont like it then dont work for them... NOONE OWES ANYONE HEATHCARE just like the little sob at walmart saying we STRIKE Unless you pay us 13 bucks per hour ... LOL your lucky you make 7.50 an hour standing around walmart doing nothing why should GM make a profit they should give everyone FREE NEW CARS EVERY YEAR obamacare is the reason the insurance is skyrocking but noone will blame him for the crap he caused Can put this to reason.. Hey if you want to pay 15 cents more for your pizza so we get health insurance then you can pay 50 cents to a buck more per pizza so we make 12 bucks per hour .... hell then you can pay 50 cents more for a pizza so kids working at papa johns can go to college for free... HELL LETS PAY 10 bucks more per pizza so everyone can get their house payments paid for them from people buying pizzas

http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/09/...-make-big.html

Hospitals are a big part of the reason that insurance costs are skyrocketing.

Originally Posted by dmaul1114 They're not a great company, but far better than Wal-mart. Have known people who worked for both, got better pay and treatment form Target. Though still shitty like all retailers. But just not much option for things like pet food, toiletries etc. Pretty much big box stores like Target or pay more at the grocery stores (that also treat their employees pretty crummy most of the time). So just a matter of picking the lesser evil for those types of things. And also factoring in shopping experience. Targets around here (and the other couple places I've lived) are much cleaner, better organized, have better quality products and better service.

They are ridiculously anti-union. Look up the Valley Stream, NY store some time. Basically, the store tried to unionize, Target fought it hard and ended up winning the vote. The Union brought a complaint to the NLRB for unfair practices and the day before the ruling was issued (which ended up going against Target requiring a new vote) Target closed the store for "remodeling." Over 6 months later the store is still boarded up. Essentially, they took a play right out of Walmart's book. Before this went down I was just unhappy with Target after working for them for 5 years, now they just plain disgust me.

Originally Posted by CaseyRyback http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/09/...-make-big.html Hospitals are a big part of the reason that insurance costs are skyrocketing.

I have a hard time blaming non-profit hospitals when it sounds like UNC is a bit of an outlier. That kind of profit is insane and the article seems to be more of a hit piece on them rather than an examination of the healthcare system as a whole and how it affects prices. Not to say that the extra $60+ million in charitable care wouldn't have helped of course because if that $125 million was net profit, there's a big problem. They should be funneling that money towards care AND research since it's a teaching hospital.

Originally Posted by RedvsBlue They are ridiculously anti-union. Look up the Valley Stream, NY store some time. Basically, the store tried to unionize, Target fought it hard and ended up winning the vote. The Union brought a complaint to the NLRB for unfair practices and the day before the ruling was issued (which ended up going against Target requiring a new vote) Target closed the store for "remodeling." Over 6 months later the store is still boarded up. Essentially, they took a play right out of Walmart's book. Before this went down I was just unhappy with Target after working for them for 5 years, now they just plain disgust me.

Yeah, Target is a shitty company too, but still slightly shittier than Walmart. Only because they don't have the muscle to beat them in the race to the bottom though and that's not for want of trying.

Originally Posted by dohdough He said it was 13 to 14 cents, but someone crunched the numbers and it was actually closer to 4.5 cents.

And he's planning on raising it 50 cents... while simultaneously cutting employees' hours. And I've read he also recently increased the delivery fee.

Oh, and he recently gave away two million pizzas for free as part of a promotion whose costs would've otherwise covered the amount he cited he'd need for Obamacare a few times over.

Originally Posted by Cantatus And he's planning on raising it 50 cents... while simultaneously cutting employees' hours. And I've read he also recently increased the delivery fee.

Lemme see if I got this motherer right: he's going to raise prices to cover the employees that he reduced the hours of so that he wouldn't have to cover them?

I don't know if he's a genius or if people that support him are just dumb as . I'm kidding...I know it's the latter.

edit: Just saw your edit. I guess he'd rather throw money away just to spite the government and deny the people that made his fortune better access to healthcare. What a ing asshole.

Originally Posted by Cantatus Oh, and he recently gave away two million pizzas for free as part of a promotion whose costs would've otherwise covered the amount he cited he'd need for Obamacare a few times over.

Wanna bet he'll claim a deduction on those pies, too - in a dark bit of irony, putting taxpayers on the hook for paying for his pizza?

Originally Posted by dohdough Yeah, Target is a shitty company too, but still slightly shittier than Walmart. Only because they don't have the muscle to beat them in the race to the bottom though and that's not for want of trying.

Yep. But they at least tend to be a little better on pay, benefits etc than wal-mart and provide a much nicer shopping experience.

Just really no better options for things like toiletries etc. the grocery stores, CVS etc are no better to their employees and charge more for those things.

Originally Posted by dohdough I have a hard time blaming non-profit hospitals when it sounds like UNC is a bit of an outlier. That kind of profit is insane and the article seems to be more of a hit piece on them rather than an examination of the healthcare system as a whole and how it affects prices. Not to say that the extra $60+ million in charitable care wouldn't have helped of course because if that $125 million was net profit, there's a big problem. They should be funneling that money towards care AND research since it's a teaching hospital. Yeah, Target is a shitty company too, but still slightly shittier than Walmart. Only because they don't have the muscle to beat them in the race to the bottom though and that's not for want of trying.

That article is part if a whole series discussing just how ed up the health care system is. I just pointed that piece out because of how insane it is. Utterly disgusting.

Originally Posted by Cantatus And he's planning on raising it 50 cents... while simultaneously cutting employees' hours. And I've read he also recently increased the delivery fee. Oh, and he recently gave away two million pizzas for free as part of a promotion whose costs would've otherwise covered the amount he cited he'd need for Obamacare a few times over.

maybe everyone who is bitching about this should got out and try to make their own company and then they will see how hard it is to make a company stay in business .


if you say a company should not make a profit then why should anyone who plays sports be paid at all .. They are playing a game they should not make a profit (yes im pissed cause of the nhl lock out LOL)

Maybe you should take a basic writing class and you'll see that grammar and punctuation aren't actually that hard to master.