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Originally Posted by PimpLimp This is not only low, but in my eyes, criminal. Best Buy is essentially stealing money from ATLUS.

Lol do you actually think ATLUS just gave these to best buy without them getting any compensation ? And your NOT FOR RESALE point is a double edged sword have you traded in any of those dj heros or udraw games that have not for resale on the back of them what do you think happen to those? Either way shady or not I rather buy it from best buy if I was interested instead of from the eBay scalpers or for that fact even the people on here selling them for $20

Originally Posted by PimpLimp I would normally agree with you except for the fact that it clearly states on the packaging "NOT FOR SALE". This is not only low, but in my eyes, criminal. Best Buy is essentially stealing money from ATLUS.

Well, there's nothing criminal about it. At most it would be a civil issue between Best Buy and Atlus as to whether any contract between them was broken in Best Buy reselling these outside of the pre order. My inclination is the "Not for sale" sticker is meant moreso to prevent ebay gouging and not this situation.

Originally Posted by CheapLikeAFox My inclination is the "Not for sale" sticker is meant moreso to prevent ebay gouging and not this situation.

No, it's the opposite; "Not for sale" notices are for retailers but it doesn't preclude individuals from selling it. It's like how mattress tags say "it is illegal to remove this tag"--that is ONLY for the retailer prior to the sale and delivery of the mattress.

Originally Posted by Kioskwocky No, it's the opposite; "Not for sale" notices are for retailers but it doesn't preclude individuals from selling it. It's like how mattress tags say "it is illegal to remove this tag"--that is ONLY for the retailer prior to the sale and delivery of the mattress.

Not exactly. Those tags on mattresses are due to very specific consumer protection laws. These stickers on promotional items have no specific law addressing them, it's only the contractual relationship between the two companies that govern it.

Originally Posted by CheapLikeAFox Not exactly. Those tags on mattresses are due to very specific consumer protection laws. These stickers on promotional items have no specific law addressing them, it's only the contractual relationship between the two companies that govern it.

I'm saying it's similar in terms of who is bound by the particular obligation in question, not legality vs contractual responsibilities.

They also did this with the final fantasy 13 faceplate for the Xbox.

The whole reason this pre-order item even EXISTS was to encourage people to buy P4G. For Best Buy to circumvent that is EXTREMELY scummy. My real point is that Best Buy is double dipping and re-selling a pre-order item that they had no hand in producing and for a drastic price. And if my memory serves me correctly, this was also the most expensive pre-order bonus for ATLUS to produce to-date. Making it just that much more of a underhanded move. It may not be "legally" wrong, but it is in terms of morals IMO.

Originally Posted by Ryuukishi It looks cool. I didn't like the way it made the screen feel though. It felt rough and like it was harder to drag my finger across it. I ended up taking the skin off.

You kinda have to "wear it in"... I thought this at first as well, but after a couple of days there's no difference at all.

Also, I'm fine with BB doing this, just not for $10. That's at 25% of the cost of the game itself! Now, if it were $3, I'd grab one. $1 and I'd pick up a few, at $10 that's pretty much price gouging and reminds me of something TRU would do.

Did anyone up when trying to put this thing on? I got one tiny bubble under mine and its driving me crazy. I was considering buying another one but they were going for around 20-30 on eBay.

Originally Posted by Namerson Did anyone up when trying to put this thing on? I got one tiny bubble under mine and its driving me crazy. I was considering buying another one but they were going for around 20-30 on eBay.

People have reported that you can take it off and put them back on as much as you want. Makes sense seeing how it isn't a sticker, it's a skin. Just be careful on whatever corner you decide to start pulling up on.

BBY did the same thing last year w/ the Troll from LotR: WitN.

Just an FYI - my P4G skin has a handful of scratches on it that are visible at certain points during P4G and I'm pretty sure they were there before I applied the skin (unless it's easily damaged by a credit card during the application process)... I'm thinking about excising the screen protector portion out because of it.

And how do you guys know they didn't just work something out with Atlus to sell the extra pre-order bonuses?

Originally Posted by Kioskwocky I'm saying it's similar in terms of who is bound by the particular obligation in question, not legality vs contractual responsibilities.

But it's not. My whole point is that the only reason those tags on mattresses exist is due to a law that dictates that those mattresses need to have those tags for consumers and the law specifically states only consumers can remove those tags.

On the other hand, the "Not For Sale" tag placed on these skins by ATLUS (or Best Buy or whoever) are not bound by any law. It is up to ATLUS and Best Buy to dictate what they mean by those words and what their intent was for placing that tag on the item. If ATLUS meant that as a message to Best Buy they would have likely just spelled that out in their contract with Best Buy, not a three word phrase on the packaging.

Originally Posted by PimpLimp The whole reason this pre-order item even EXISTS was to encourage people to buy P4G. For Best Buy to circumvent that is EXTREMELY scummy. My real point is that Best Buy is double dipping and re-selling a pre-order item that they had no hand in producing and for a drastic price. And if my memory serves me correctly, this was also the most expensive pre-order bonus for ATLUS to produce to-date. Making it just that much more of a underhanded move. It may not be "legally" wrong, but it is in terms of morals IMO.

See below.

Originally Posted by kouleefoh And how do you guys know they didn't just work something out with Atlus to sell the extra pre-order bonuses?

QFT. We don't know what's going on here. ATLUS could be getting half the money here as a way to recoup what they spent making these.

Super lame. After failing at getting Solid Gold all week (calling every gamestop several times a day) I broke down and bought the regular version from BB (Full retail too!) last night. No skin!

I got one from my newegg pre-order...but I am thinking about ordering a second so I can use one and keep one new....How easy is this to apply? How does it look? Opinions/advice welcome.

Originally Posted by MrSneis Super lame. After failing at getting Solid Gold all week (calling every gamestop several times a day) I broke down and bought the regular version from BB (Full retail too!) last night. No skin!

you can order it from newegg and return that to Bestbuy.

I got a skin with my non-pre-ordered Amazon order. If BestBuy has any left they should give them to those who buy the game.

Originally Posted by Saix_XIII I got one from my newegg pre-order...but I am thinking about ordering a second so I can use one and keep one new....How easy is this to apply? How does it look? Opinions/advice welcome.

Extremely easy, I just laid mine on and there was one bubble... I pushed the air out through the edge and it's been fine since. Personally, I look the look of the Vita ALOT better with the skin on there. Gives it a nice splash of color while still looking classy.

Really BEST BUY