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Guys, I loved this episode! Cheapy's investigavtive Car-O-Kay journalism, Shipwreck's Geek on the Street segment, and Wombat's adorable daughter were all great. Keep it up, and have a great Christmas/Hannukah!

Not sure why but I assumed the Karaoke app was real time. I think because Xbox movies work the same way. Once you start watching the clock is ticking.

Or maybe I'm just conditioned to expect whatever is the worst deal for the consumer.

$270 to hang your tv? Geeksquad?

Well next time try it yourself. Pretty easy home project. The whole experience is a short puzzle game with a few action sequences.

A few level holes drilled in the wall where studs are for the mount. Screw mount to wall. Maybe the cables through the wall thing scares you? Amazon makes a nice $50 kit for that that makes it pretty easy (Datacomm flat panel tv kit) and meets code. A $7 drywall saw cuts a hole in the wall pretty easy (much easier than a layman would think possible.) Before you hang the tv you put brackets on back with these things called screws. Lifting the tv to to hang it on the mount is the same as putting it on a tv stand.

Then you have YouTube etc for free hints on how to overcome any obstacles.

Oh Cheapy, your so funny when your mad.

Originally Posted by trip1eX $270 to hang your tv? Geeksquad? Well next time try it yourself. Pretty easy home project. The whole experience is a short puzzle game with a few action sequences. A few level holes drilled in the wall where studs are for the mount. Screw mount to wall. Maybe the cables through the wall thing scares you? Amazon makes a nice $50 kit for that that makes it pretty easy (Datacomm flat panel tv kit) and meets code. A $7 drywall saw cuts a hole in the wall pretty easy (much easier than a layman would think possible.) Before you hang the tv you put brackets on back with these things called screws. Lifting the tv to to hang it on the mount is the same as putting it on a tv stand. Then you have YouTube etc for free hints on how to overcome any obstacles.

It took them less than two hours. I'm perfectly fine paying $270 for a quick and painless experience.

Miiverse is interesting. It is for Nintendo's demographic. But say you're a host of a popular gaming podcast and have a bunch of followers. You get a Wii U. And attract followers there. You go to play SMB Wii U. And ....you have CAG messages all over SMB Wii U. Hints on finding the star coins. Spoilers. etc. Pictures. Balls. Shafts. etc. Don't want it? click a button on the touchscreen and it all goes away. Click the button again and its back. Want to see spoilers? You can click that setting on/off too.

Or the reverse. YOu leave messages in a lot of places and your followers get a kick out of seeing the videogame podcast hosts' notes of what he thought or hints he has etc.

I think what it would have over Twitter is location location location. The stuff is right there. In the game.

And the messages in a game like SMB can be fresh because you have the option to leave them right then and there after you finish every level.

Of course this is a dream of sorts because not positive you can control what messages you see and your friend limit is only 100. This is where they should be more like Twitter. Follow certain people to get their comments. Or set up a group like CAGs to see only CAG messages. And then vote up/down messages.

AS it is I don't use it though. I didn't have anything to say about every level in SMB Wii U. And no one my kids know or I know has a Wii U. lol.

Amazing how quickly i went from on-board with Cheapy, to outraged with Cheapy over the Karaoke thing. I'm fine with it working in real time while you're in the app, but there should be extremely explicit language if there is no way to store purchased time while outside of the app.

Originally Posted by shipwreck It took them less than two hours. I'm perfectly fine paying $270 for a quick and painless experience.

Please tell me you pay for a lawn service and a maid.

Saw some headline that German law is responsible for restrictions on "mature" content in Europe Nintendo e-shop.

Completly forgot about stack soap until today. Picked up a pack for my husbands stocking stuffer. Thanks guys! Here's hoping it make it to Alaska before Christmas!

Originally Posted by trip1eX Saw some headline that German law is responsible for restrictions on "mature" content in Europe Nintendo e-shop.

That's right.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...p-restrictions

“At Nintendo we always aim to provide a safe gaming experience for fans of all ages and ensure that we comply with applicable legal age restriction requirements across Europe,” a Nintendo spokesperson told Eurogamer. “Legal age restriction requirements vary across a number of European countries. Since Nintendo of Europe is based in Germany, Nintendo eShop is complying with German youth protection regulation which therefore applies to all our European markets. Under German law, content rated 18+ must be made available only at night. “Therefore the accessibility of 18+ content in Nintendo eShop is limited to [USK: 22:00 UTC until 4:00 UTC] [PEGI: 23:00 UTC until 3:00 UTC].”

Originally Posted by trip1eX Please tell me you pay for a lawn service and a maid.

I'm fairly sure I've said that I pay for lawn service and cleaning service on the CAGcast before.

This episode was the best in a while. There was nothing special to make it different, but there were just more great moments for funny lines. From the question of a Kurt Cobain hologram to Wombat's clarification on labor laws, the moments just kept rolling along.

A quick note on the subject of Goozex's demise and Cheapy's assessment that "If Goozex couldn't do it, no one can".

I've used Goozex for 5 years or so (hundreds of trades) and I've seen it go from a viable trading platform beneficial for everyone involved (profitable for operators, money saving for users), to a complete disaster due to mismanagement and neglect in the last year and a half.

I can't say what was going on behind the scenes (though you can read all about the financial history here: http://www.otcmarkets.com/edgar/GetF...lingID=8961452 ), but from a user perspective I've seen an almost fanatically dedicated user base (including myself) get disappointed and pushed away time and again by vague announcements of progress and what appear to be outright fabrications of improvements "in the works". Goozex missed every self-imposed deadline they set for their users for the past year. Customer service while never fast became almost non-existent in the last 6 months.

There are no games to be had outside of junk no one wants and the remaining active users appear to be insane / delusional (I’ve had no luck reasoning with them). The queues for current generation games are hundreds of users long while 1 game a quarter is traded (I'm near the front of many of these queues). New users have NO CHANCE of receiving anything of interest if they trade out a new game for some Goozex cash after they're duped by the Goozex front page promises. I was a huge advocate of Goozex in the past, but it's to a point where I'd feel guilty receiving anything from a new user who doesn't know what he's gotten himself into.

Goozex squandered the good will of their dedicated users. That's what killed Goozex. The newly minted competitors (99Gamers.com and VGFive.com) are off to a running start. Cheapy may be right that there's not a lot of money in it, but I think there's a good chance this model could stay profitable with the right management team as long as physical media is around... because there a lot of Cheap Ass Gamers who want to play a lot of games, but don't want to pay $60 for them all.

Glad to hear that Arrow is still pleasing Wombat and Cheapy. It's really a guilty pleasure show. In no way is that show actually great but it's cool to see DC villains and heroes making brief appearances each week.

I know people are ragging on Shipwreck for paying to have his TV mounted but if I could afford to do it I'd rather put the handling of expensive electronics in the hands of professionals too. My biggest gripe with Best Buy's "service" is that you're paying triple the price for the mount itself but other than that, I'd love to have that taken care of for me. It's the same reason people hire movers or take their cars to get oil changes. No one wants to do that stuff if you don't have to.

Originally Posted by thorbahn3 Fun Fact: the limited commercial interruption guy from hulu also plays Lee in The Walking Dead: The Game.

That's hilarious. I never would have put those two voices together.

That Karaoke segment was hilarious. You should cut that conversation and paste it on YouTube, Cheapy. I have a feeling a lot of people don't know that's how it works.


Also - man, Shipwreck must be loaded. I would never pay Geek Squad to set up a TV for me.

I can't believe anyone would think the Karoke thing was not real time. Every time I saw an article it never said it would not be in real time. It is a rental plan why would it be different than the movies they have been selling for 5-6 years?

Originally Posted by spid I can't believe anyone would think the Karoke thing was not real time. Every time I saw an article it never said it would not be in real time. It is a rental plan why would it be different than the movies they have been selling for 5-6 years?

I never saw an article that said it would be real time. I think the assumption that it would be like renting time in a Karaoke bar, not like renting a movie. Having 24 hours to watch a 2 hour movie with finite viewing time is in no comparable to playing a Karaoke game. Especially with the pay model they created. Why would anyone buy 24 hours of realtime when you just buy the 2 hours you will need. I have never seen a movie rental service with a rent by the hour plan.

Originally Posted by apathylad That Karaoke segment was hilarious. You should cut that conversation and paste it on YouTube, Cheapy. I have a feeling a lot of people don't know that's how it works.

Bam:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uRXrEGzlyg

Originally Posted by Wombat I never saw an article that said it would be real time. I think the assumption that it would be like renting time in a Karaoke bar, not like renting a movie. Having 24 hours to watch a 2 hour movie with finite viewing time is in no comparable to playing a Karaoke game. Especially with the pay model they created. Why would anyone buy 24 hours of realtime when you just buy the 2 hours you will need. I have never seen a movie rental service with a rent by the hour plan.

I imagine the only reason to offer 24 hours of Karaoke is to make money on unsuspecting purchasers. But at the same time, I think it's unrealistic to think that the program would operate on game time. If that were the case, everyone would just buy 24 hours (since it's the best value) and play sparingly for a few weeks and never return to the game again. At the very least the game should be straightforward with how the renting process works, I will agree with that.