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Originally Posted by Eldredpe He's not missing that. He's mentioned in every post that these are all hypothetical legal arguments that Valve would never go through with because it would be an absolute PR nightmare.

I guess I'm just not used to someone saying that others are entirely wrong about something and then, apparently, agreeing with them entirely.

Originally Posted by Eldredpe I believe he's flung around the phrase "media circus" quite liberally tonight.

That one was mine, actually. It's amusing to be able to mention Rapelay without it derailing the (admittedly tangential) conversation.

Originally Posted by DPsycho That one was mine, actually. It's amusing to be able to mention Rapelay without it derailing the (admittedly tangential) conversation.

Ah, ok.

I didn't go back to fact check before posting, because... you know... the Internet.

To be honest, I'm still a little confused on what the points of disagreement the two of you have are.

Originally Posted by Seraphym The Creature Slaughter Dome hasn't been on sale at all yet

Not worth it in the slightest. Just join someone's game that owns it and you can play it, including being able to trigger the quests and get exp and rewards.

Unless they patched it out, anyways

Originally Posted by spuffin Not worth it in the slightest. Just join someone's game that owns it and you can play it, including being able to trigger the quests and get exp and rewards. Unless they patched it out, anyways

I still want to buy it at 75% off god dammit!

Originally Posted by Severose I still want to buy it at 75% off god dammit!

But then they'll know completionists will pay for small insignificant pieces of games which you've probably already out leveled.

think about what you're doing!

They'll know!

Originally Posted by DPsycho I guess I'm just not used to someone saying that others are entirely wrong about something and then, apparently, agreeing with them entirely. That one was mine, actually. It's amusing to be able to mention Rapelay without it derailing the (admittedly tangential) conversation.

I didn't agree with you entirely. I actually made a pretty big distinction. My disagreement really stems from making statements like "Steam can't" do something and "Best Buy would have to." They're misleading and inaccurate and entirely wrong.

Maybe it's just a big misunderstanding and we're really saying the same thing, but there is a huge difference between what companies have to do and what they actually do.

Your initial posts seemed worried about possible legal implications if Steam was hosting games that were infringing copyrights or breaking laws and seemed to try to make a connection between that and Steam having to safeguard against that. Anything they do would be for PR or CS reasons and the legal implications really have nothing to do with that.

Again, maybe a big misunderstanding, but it just seems that your were basing your worries on a fundamentally flawed view of what Valve's legal obligations are.

Originally Posted by spuffin Not worth it in the slightest. Just join someone's game that owns it and you can play it, including being able to trigger the quests and get exp and rewards. Unless they patched it out, anyways

It does save time if you're shooting for all the achievements, because its entrance is the closest to the part of the Wildlife Exploitation Preserve that has the 4 cardboard boxes that are guaranteed to spawn the midget enemies when you're on a certain quest. Otherwise, you need to do a lot more running to zone in/out and get them to respawn.

That looks much more ridiculous written out than it sounded in my head.

Originally Posted by CheapLikeAFox You conveniently deleted the part where I address just that from my quote. Yes, in some cases state law supersedes the contract signed between Best Buy and their vendors.

No, I purposefully ignored it. It is intellectually dishonest. You rant for multiple paragraphs over the last two pages about how you are right and they are wrong. Then with 5 words you essentially claim that oops, in some areas you are totally wrong. It's like those drug commercials where they tell you how great your life will be with this new drug, and go on and on and on about it, and then at the end the fine print goes flying by and some dude rambles for 10 seconds about anal leakage, unwanted back hair, dry mouth, and oh, this drug might not do anything for you. Which is why I only posted your example because you conveniently forgot to start it with "unless local law dictates otherwise."

Originally Posted by travathian No, I purposefully ignored it. It is intellectually dishonest. You rant for multiple paragraphs over the last two pages about how you are right and they are wrong. Then with 5 words you essentially claim that oops, in some areas you are totally wrong. It's like those drug commercials where they tell you how great your life will be with this new drug, and go on and on and on about it, and then at the end the fine print goes flying by and some dude rambles for 10 seconds about anal leakage, unwanted back hair, dry mouth, and oh, this drug might not do anything for you. Which is why I only posted your example because you conveniently forgot to start it with "unless local law dictates otherwise."

Yes, because placing it in the middle of my rant as opposed to the beginning makes it "intellectually dishonest." I could go on, but at this point it's really not worth it since apparently I have to be careful where I place my words

Anyways, everyone needs to Greenlight this:



http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...s/?id=92979562

Originally Posted by spuffin But then they'll know completionists will pay for small insignificant pieces of games which you've probably already out leveled. think about what you're doing! They'll know!

I think the slaughter dome missions somewhat scale to your level. I did the first 2 creature rounds but couldn't play on at the time. At the time I was on Round 3 as a lvl 21 mission. I came back a while later at level 32 and retook the mission and it was now a lvl 28.

Originally Posted by Severose I still want to buy it at 75% off god dammit!

91% or bust!

Armchair lawyering on the internet. There's something you don't see every day. Oh wait.

Besides which, Gabe was being Gabe. If you're going to get in internet arguments over hypothetical legalities at least make it for something that is actually, you know, done or legtimately in the works.

Originally Posted by CheapLikeAFox Anyways, everyone needs to Greenlight this: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...s/?id=92979562

Also it's on Desura, currently on sale for $2.99 and the developer has promised Steam keys to those who buy now if it gets Greenlit.

Originally Posted by Motoki Armchair lawyering on the internet. There's something you don't see every day. Oh wait. Besides which, Gabe was being Gabe. If you're going to get in internet arguments over hypothetical legalities at least make it for something that is actually, you know, done or legtimately in the works. Also it's on Desura, currently on sale for $2.99 and the developer has promised Steam keys to those who buy now if it gets Greenlit.

And it'll be in a bundle and everyone that bought it for 2.99 will be salty about it lol

Originally Posted by Drabelincoln And it'll be in a bundle and everyone that bought it for 2.99 will be salty about it lol

Yeah, I'm wanting it to be greenlit for an eventual bundle inclusion. If it has classic punchout game play it could actually be fun, but the novelty is the biggest draw.

Originally Posted by CheapLikeAFox Yeah, I'm wanting it to be greenlit for an eventual bundle inclusion. If it has classic punchout game play it could actually be fun, but the novelty is the biggest draw.

I agree, I played the demo the only thing I wish it had was better knockout animations. They are all the same. At least what I saw

That looks like box art for some early 90s deservedly forgotten console game.


And since no one has mentioned it in this thread, DOTA 2 Retail keys (free):
http://computergames.ro/giveaway/dota-2

Let the steamgifts flood begin!

Originally Posted by asheskitty That looks like box art for some early 90s deservedly forgotten console game. And since no one has mentioned it in this thread, DOTA 2 Retail keys (free): http://computergames.ro/giveaway/dota-2 Let the steamgifts flood begin!

I think they removed Dota 2 from SG the first time it got flooded a few months ago.

Originally Posted by Preedatore I think they removed Dota 2 from SG the first time it got flooded a few months ago.

i t been gone while wit hmemtro 2033 lol

My main concern about Beast Boxing is that storyline. A secret human boxer? I'm just saying, you would think the beasts would notice. Unless... It's actually a critique upon humanity, and in the end, we too, are just another beast. Just fighting to get to the top and beat the grand champion of the Ultra League.

voted.

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