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Cheapy, I don't know what's wrong with your Xbox, but mine boots in like 15-20 seconds and I'm logged into Xbox Live and ready to play about another 10 seconds after that. Maybe it's because I don't have many apps installed, but I definitely don't wait an entire minute just for my Xbox to turn on.

I'm pretty shocked so many people are down on this announcement. I'm not a fanboy either way as I have owned at one point all of the consoles (yes, even Wii U), but I think IF Sony can keep their promises this generation they will have a better chance this generation at succeeding. This isn't E3, so I don't get why so many people feel let down from this event. Either way, I'm excited. I am one of the few who has enough bandwidth to be able to actually stream games, so if they can really pull that feature off I will be very pleased.

Another great podcast. I also really enjoyed all of the tweets yesterday.

As someone who has poor download bandwidth at home and horrible upload bandwidth (DSL), I don't understand how any of these PS4 streaming features are going to work well.

Also, Cheapy, my Xbox 360 boots in probably 20 seconds. 1 minute sounds pretty bad.

Originally Posted by KingWulfgar Cheapy, I don't know what's wrong with your Xbox, but mine boots in like 15-20 seconds and I'm logged into Xbox Live and ready to play about another 10 seconds after that. Maybe it's because I don't have many apps installed, but I definitely don't wait an entire minute just for my Xbox to turn on.

Mine is pretty quick too, but I know other people that have complained of startup being around a minute or longer. Cheapy is not the only one experiencing this.

Cheapy, in the interest of science maybe you could delete all your 360 apps and then try starting it up.

If you don't see any benefit, try deleting all your friends off of XBL.

Your experimentation will greatly benefit all of CAGkind. Thanks in advance.

I realize you guys don't pride yourselves on being professionals or anything, but you really stooped to a new low on this episode. Cheapy/Shipwreck, it wouldn't have killed you to watch the event after the fact before recording this. What's the point in even having Shipwreck on the show if you're still going to stumble through trying to figure out what you're talking about? This ep was flat out embarrassing, sorry.

Wombat, you're excused because you have two kids and a full-time job.

Everything you need to know about the PS4 reveal in 3 minutes:

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Do you guys think Sony made this announcement now instead of waiting until (1. @ E3 or 2. after Microsoft revealed xbox 1080) in order to utterly kill WiiU sales in 'tit for tat' fashion after Nintendo cut the price of the 3DS the same week that the PS Vita was released?

Originally Posted by raistlin I realize you guys don't pride yourselves on being professionals or anything, but you really stooped to a new low on this episode. Cheapy/Shipwreck, it wouldn't have killed you to watch the event after the fact before recording this. What's the point in even having Shipwreck on the show if you're still going to stumble through trying to figure out what you're talking about? This ep was flat out embarrassing, sorry. Wombat, you're excused because you have two kids and a full-time job.

The episode was fine. We've stooped much lower in the past.

Originally Posted by raistlin I realize you guys don't pride yourselves on being professionals or anything, but you really stooped to a new low on this episode. Cheapy/Shipwreck, it wouldn't have killed you to watch the event after the fact before recording this. What's the point in even having Shipwreck on the show if you're still going to stumble through trying to figure out what you're talking about? This ep was flat out embarrassing, sorry.

I disagree entirely. They got the gist of all the major stuff that was announced and presented some reasonable opinions without being overly dismissive and snarky for the sake of it. Which is more than can be said for some professional sites, e.g. Polygon.

Originally Posted by shipwreck The episode was fine. We've stooped much lower in the past.

After some more thought on this, I realize it's really my fault not yours. My expectations are always entirely too high for important events generally speaking.

I listen to the show because you guys aren't pretentious, and you don't act like working stiffs in the biz. That being said, I always hope for a little more. Seems I can't have the best of both worlds, as much as I'd like to.
It's not like you guys get paid to do this, so whatever.

I laughed so hard when Cheapy went to mention the Go Daddy codes and then just said " it, you guys already know them." XD

Originally Posted by Kegley I'm pretty shocked so many people are down on this announcement. I'm not a fanboy either way as I have owned at one point all of the consoles (yes, even Wii U), but I think IF Sony can keep their promises this generation they will have a better chance this generation at succeeding. This isn't E3, so I don't get why so many people feel let down from this event. Either way, I'm excited. I am one of the few who has enough bandwidth to be able to actually stream games, so if they can really pull that feature off I will be very pleased.

Notice how these "gamers" that are down on the conference only have XBL gamer tags or if they have a PSN one as well its really low (trophy count). Its confirmed that the PS4 will play used games but you have one Xbot playing with semantics on the first page to continue putting doubt on this "feature". Major Nelson had a really lame ass tweet about the PS4 not being shown, if he was so sure of HIS product why did he "attack" the most insignificant thing of last nights conference.

I avoided everything till last night and I was really pleased with the features shown, as for the games they look really good for 1st gen games on a system and with time still to go.

Originally Posted by faceturd Besides the flood of news stories... CAGcast is the only gaming podcast out today talking PS4 stuff that I subscribe to (nothin from giant bomb, Rebel FM, Weekend Confirmed...). Tip o' the hat to you semi-informed entertainers for educating my ear holes.

sheer coincidence.

What sucked about the PS4 announcement is Sony didn't show any exciting fresh new experiences.

Same sht we are playing. And in some cases the graphics weren't all that better looking. We even saw press the square button to end the misery of this press conference message on the screen in some game footage. Yawn. Ok it might have said something different.

Yes Sony showed off features that make the gaming experience more convenient. Nice, but 'tis icing on the cake. And not the cake we were came for.

The hardware specs are fine. But is this a selling point any more in the age of Apple? IT is about the whole experience. Specs were great when we saw massive leaps in graphics and gameplay. Now? Seems all we are getting is slicker looking worlds while the rest of the game world still feels semi-retarded.

But the good news is the system is still 9 months away from launching and we are probably a good 2 years from having the "real" games show up for it. HOpefully, for Sony, the best is yet to come.

Still, Sony should have waited until a human being could personally show off all the features they talked about on stage. Show me why I need a touchpad on my controller. Show me what is so great about the resume feature or my controller glowing blue or the camera. Show me what all this power will do for me. And make the 2 hr event an event. Not 2 hrs of dragging out something they could have put into a short press release with a picture of the controller.

And have someone at the company that is actually into the product show this stuff off.

Originally Posted by shipwreck The episode was fine. We've stooped much lower in the past.

I think this one was the lowest.

And they wonder why they aren't invited to events.

Originally Posted by Thomas96 I think this one was the lowest.

What did we do to offend you? I'm very curious, since you hate us every week. (That reads meaner than I meant it. I just don't understand what we did that was so bad this week. We liked it and thought they did a good job.)

I was actually more interested in hearing about the Eagles documentary. It's too early for me to feel any excitement for the PS4; I still have enough PS2 and PS3 games to get to in my backlog.

Originally Posted by actripxl Notice how these "gamers" that are down on the conference only have XBL gamer tags or if they have a PSN one as well its really low (trophy count). Its confirmed that the PS4 will play used games but you have one Xbot playing with semantics on the first page to continue putting doubt on this "feature".

In what way was my post anti Sony? Just because I only have an Xbox gt?

Did you read the article? If so, how can you not suspect there is something they are not saying?

So if someone buys a PlayStation 4 game, I asked, you're not going to stop them reselling it? "Aaaah," was Yoshida's initial answer, but seemingly only because he'd forgotten his line. "So what was our official answer to our internal question?" he asked his Japanese PR advisor. The advisor stepped in but didn't seem to answer clearly, at least to my ears. Yoshida then took control again firmly: "So, used games can play on PS4. How is that?" I said I thought that was fine.

If there are no strings attached to used game sales such as a re-license fee, why not just say "yes" to the first question?

But you can't answer that without taking off your rose colored glasses, it is easier to just spout "herp XBOT derp" like an over-sensitive console warrior.

Keep fighting the good fight.

I'm about an hour into the show and thought you guys did a good job covering the press conference. I was actually looking to hear a podcast on it and was glad to see you guys cover it. To be honest, I'm not that excited about the new gen. The PS3 still looks plenty good to me, and like somebody mentioned, the PC can pretty much show those types of graphics.
By the way cheapy, you go on for minutes sometimes talking about your watch this movies and you cut cut off poor wombat when he was clearly excited about it.

Avid listener of the CAGCast, just never post here.

The problem with Diablo 3 is they screwed up the formula. The removed stat and skill points, and removed the "fun-ness" of creating tons of different classes with different builds. Also, the online auction house is a disaster. I could go throw in Diablo 2 today and probably still create a character build i have yet to do. Torchlight 2 is actually a lot more like Diablo 2, and stays true to the old formula.