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Originally Posted by mkaliaz Good review/recommendation on Tropico. As a longtime Tropico maniac/fan, I agree with your comments. The only thing I would say as a minor disagreement is that Tropico 2 is significantly different than the others. It's set in pirate times (1600s) and is pretty much a pirate colony simulator. Its got its own issues and is far from perfect, but is worth considering if that sounds interesting.

I see what you did there pushing the pirate theme...

Originally Posted by Cojack426 Anyone have good things to say on Miasmata? Been eyeing that game for awhile now, seems different and unique. Plus I got some leftover steam credit.

Fundle bodder.

Originally Posted by Mooby Fundle bodder.

He's my favorite hobbit mentioned in passing from The Fellowship of the Ring.

Looks like the pre-order bonuses for Resident Evil 6 have all been unlocked now.

For $39.99, you get Resident Evil 5, Resident Evil 6, the Resident Evil 6 digital soundtrack and art book, and the Resident Evil 6 season pass which includes 6 multiplayer-only DLC gameplay modes.

Originally Posted by jshackles Looks like the pre-order bonuses for Resident Evil 6 have all been unlocked now. For $39.99, you get Resident Evil 5, Resident Evil 6, the Resident Evil 6 digital soundtrack and art book, and the Resident Evil 6 season pass which includes 6 multiplayer-only DLC gameplay modes.

Just a shame that to get that you have to get RE6.

Originally Posted by Rsmobile Just a shame that to get that you have to get RE6.

Hahaha, it makes me sad to think that I've been watching the industry long enough to see both Shinji Mikami and Keiji Inafune leave Capcom. Now I have to be that "old guy" that talks about how great "the old days" were, when Resident Evil 2 was a big thing.

Wait, I'm not done - I want to grumble about how Klonoa was lucky enough to get a reboot on the Wii mixed with very competitive pricing, and people still didn't buy it.

By the way, Resident Evil 6 is available for pre-purchase on the Steam digital download service.

Originally Posted by louiedog He's my favorite hobbit mentioned in passing from The Fellowship of the Ring.

I'm partial to Alweeson Dearum, but everyone else in this thread seems to really hate him!

At least you can pay $15 a month subscription to SimCity and receive priority status in the login queue.





Oh wait, that's SWTOR.

is Tropico 4 for $9.99 a good deal ? by the way i am not planning to play it soon.

Originally Posted by Idiotekque At least you can pay $15 a month subscription to SimCity and receive priority status in the login queue. Oh wait, that's SWTOR.

Oh don't tempt them. I can see it now. Sim City Free to Play!

Want to build a Firehouse? $2 in Simbucks.

Want to expand your population $3 in Simbucks.

Want to keep cash reserves over 100,000 simoleans? $5 in Simbucks.

Or you can buy the extra special super duper useless decoration pack to show off for your friends when they visit your farm city for the sale price of $10 in Simbucks!

Originally Posted by aaf is Tropico 4 for $9.99 a good deal ? by the way i am not planning to play it soon.

Is anything a good deal when you aren't planning on playing it soon?

Somehow, that never seems to stop me though.

Originally Posted by Motoki I'm going to steal Dr. Sasquatch's Steam review

Can you believe I am not a professional?

Originally Posted by Motoki Oh don't tempt them. I can see it now. Sim City Free to Play! Want to build a Firehouse? $2 in Simbucks. Want to expand your population $3 in Simbucks. Want to keep cash reserves over 100,000 simoleans? $5 in Simbucks. Or you can buy the extra special super duper useless decoration pack to show off for your friends when they visit your farm city for the sale price of $10 in Simbucks!

EA is just butthurt because the server problems are keeping them from doing this.

I can almost guarantee shit like this WILL happen. Sims 3 store? Meet the SimCity store.

I would also like to take this opportunity to point out that as someone who pre-ordered Tropico 4 (there was a combo discount with the complete Kalypso pack ) it worked on day 1 of release online or off without issue.

Originally Posted by Motoki Is anything a good deal when you aren't planning on playing it soon? Somehow, that never seems to stop me though.

I am worried it will be more expensive when I want to play it .

Originally Posted by aaf I am worried it will be more expensive when I want to play it .

Well, if it makes a difference, Kalypso seems to be pretty good about putting the Tropico series on sale every so often. You could probably check a price tracker and see how often they hit around 75% off.

There are no guarantees, but I'm sure you'll see this sale repeat not too long down the road. If you wanna play it now, though, I doubt it's going to get a whole lot cheaper, if at all.

Originally Posted by Idiotekque Well, if it makes a difference, Kalypso seems to be pretty good about putting the Tropico series on sale every so often. You could probably check a price tracker and see how often they hit around 75% off. There are no guarantees, but I'm sure you'll see this sale repeat not too long down the road. If you wanna play it now, though, I doubt it's going to get a whole lot cheaper, if at all.

Then I will wait till I have free time for gaming

thanx man .

Originally Posted by Motoki I would also like to take this opportunity to point out that as someone who pre-ordered Tropico 4 (there was a combo discount with the complete Kalypso pack ) it worked on day 1 of release online or off without issue.

I really think the future of gaming is the whole Diablo 2; Torchlight 2; Borderlands; Hellgate: London; TDU2; and Lord British's Shroud of the Avatar approach/method of doing things - a game's campaign can be played either offline or offline.

Sure, you might see a few more things happening if you play it online - i.e. might have a few multi-player based game modes; some quests and missions aimed for numerous players; more players running around the gameworld; competitive and co-op missions if you play online; more things aimed at a social gaming experience; etc.

But if some things (or things) goes wrong for any reason you can think of, you still have that offline mode to play at your own will!
Things that could go wrong - you can't connect b/c of your actual connection itself and/or your ISP's having issues on their end; the online servers are crowded; the online servers are down; online game has lots of hacking and cheating; hard to enjoy game's story when online players are constantly wanting to "skip" a cut-scene or dialogue sequence; etc. All are great reasons why I'd like an offline mode.

I just don't see why many dev's & pub's would want to spend a fortune on having tons of servers running at all times; or even limiting their sales to who have good Internet connections. What would cost the publishers and dev's more: having a game w/ not-as-restrictive DRM getting pirated to Hell (that people are actually playing - which might cause others to go out and buy it); OR having a game getting a poor reputation just b/c of its "Always online DRM" that is causing problems for legit game-owners and causing gamers to spread the word to NOT buy the game?
Also - sure, I have a pretty good connection here in the USA - but what about those outside of it? Aren't they (the dev's and pub's) missing-out on another fanbase by NOT making their game work offline for a solo-style of gameplay?

Originally Posted by MysterD I really think the future of gaming is the whole Diablo 2; Torchlight 2; Borderlands; Hellgate: London; TDU2; and Lord British's Shroud of the Avatar approach/method of doing things - a game's campaign can be played either offline or offline. Sure, you might see a few more things happening if you play it online - i.e. might have a few multi-player based game modes; some quests and missions aimed for numerous players; more players running around the gameworld; competitive and co-op missions if you play online; more things aimed at a social gaming experience; etc. But if some things (or things) goes wrong for any reason you can think of, you still have that offline mode to play at your own will! Things that could go wrong - you can't connect b/c of your actual connection itself and/or your ISP's having issues on their end; the online servers are crowded; the online servers are down; online game has lots of hacking and cheating; hard to enjoy game's story when online players are constantly wanting to "skip" a cut-scene or dialogue sequence; etc. All are great reasons why I'd like an offline mode. I just don't see why many dev's & pub's would want to spend a fortune on having tons of servers running at all times; or even limiting their sales to who have good Internet connections. What would cost the publishers and dev's more: having a game w/ not-as-restrictive DRM getting pirated to Hell (that people are actually playing - which might cause others to go out and buy it); OR having a game getting a poor reputation just b/c of its "Always online DRM" that is causing problems for legit game-owners and causing gamers to spread the word to NOT buy the game? Also - sure, I have a pretty good connection here in the USA - but what about those outside of it? Aren't they (the dev's and pub's) missing-out on another fanbase by NOT making their game work offline for a solo-style of gameplay?

You forgot to mention how TSW should have offline mode.

Originally Posted by Idiotekque You forgot to mention how TSW should have offline mode.

Oh, I'd love to see that!

I namely mentioned games that have the same campaign work in offline and online modes...
...or are planned to work in both manners, in Garriott's upcoming SOTA game's case.

Besides the normal problems of connecting w/ "Always online games", I did throw a few hints at certain games.

I didn't specifically call out TSW or GW1/GW2, but I did hint at some experience I had w/ those games in the "things that can go wrong (in an online game)", yes.

Originally Posted by MysterD hard to enjoy game's story when online players are constantly wanting to "skip" a cut-scene or dialogue sequence

That was specifically aimed at my experience w/ Guild Wars 1 + expansions; GW2 Beta; & TSW Beta.

Originally Posted by louiedog And then Kalypso put Tropico 4 on sale at 75% off for a week for some reason that I'm sure no one could guess. $7.49 for the base game $9.99 for everything DLC is $1.24 to $4.99 Also, Tropico 3 for $2.49 or $3.74 for gold edition Tropico Trilogy (1, 2, 3 gold) $4.99

Have to say this is one of the most devious and genius things I've seen on Steam. I honestly had no interest in the game, but after watching some people play Sim City this week, I both remembered how much I enjoy those types of games and how I don't want Sim City. Now I find my finger hovering over the "buy" button for Tropico 4.