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Originally Posted by crystalklear64 decided to try to run for the ruins of orr yesterday to try to recapture the fun of doing droks runs. made it to the straights of devastation and about 30 silver later determined that anet has pretty much all their bases covered there. i don't think its possible to make it farther, solo, as an engineer. too many ranged guys and not enough skills to survive. however, i did get a ton of higher level crafting stuff from the karma vendors and an ass load of exp from hitting the high level waypoints.

That zone ing SUCKED. Seriously, if you can make it to the 80 zone is some much nicer. The waypoints aren't all locked because that's where all the 80's are and overall it's not overpopulated with risen. Straits of Hell is more like it; I'll never set foot in that shitty zone again.

Originally Posted by crystalklear64 Trading Post is up.

Only for select people while they test their beta. I've never been able to use it.

As for the bans, there was also some cooking exploit that got Kripparian banned as well because he publicized it on his stream from what I heard. However, I think the Gendarran Fields champion event exploit flew under the radar fortunately. I know I abused the hell out of that grinding 25-35 in about 6-7 hours lol. Gotta love having a keyboard that can loop pressing 1 over and over.

It's been 2 hours since they've recognized that people are not getting the emails from their email authentication system (which they enabled for everyone). I really wish they would just disable it, and continue to test it privately so we can play. It was already bad enough last night they brought black lion trader up for everyone but it just took everyone's money and items.

lol. guess they saved the failure for post-launch.

cannot login myself. bummer.

i also have a shit ton of password reset requests in my mail... wonder if i'm going to log on to find my shit stripped.

Originally Posted by crystalklear64 i also have a shit ton of password reset requests in my mail... wonder if i'm going to log on to find my shit stripped.

Nah, it was just phishing bots hammering their system. They disabled password resets for a while to access the situation I guess. I had two spammed to me as well but no issues here with hackers.

Also, forgot to post my level 80 victory pose:

Beat the game tonight and man, they suck at instances lol. One of the boss fights had us zerging back to turrets naked because there was literally nowhere to stand without being hit by shit and after two dodges you're pretty much screwed. I'm just glad to be rid of that damn quest in my window.

For whatever reason, WvW got switched to new servers already (thought it was two weeks? w/e. . .) and we got Northern Shiverpeaks lol. It's actually a decent matchup this time though, looking at the pie chart it's split 3-ways almost perfectly equal. Good stuff, time to kill folks for karma and pimp myself out with set bonuses. Not sure why my set looks like witch hunter gear though. . .

oo you got ns in your bracket...

hope you guys do well just to shut those $$$$$$s up

Heh, well hard to say who's winning since Anet keeps resetting it every night. Right now, it's more of a who can zerg the map first and take the most in the early hours because you can fight all day and never make up the lost points.

So I've run into probably the biggest flaw with this game: it's not melee friendly at all. I'd say I'm using my bow 95% of the time in PvP and any scenario where there's aoe potential. This is simply poor design in the fact that I can't play the class the way I'd like to. In a 1v1 situation, melee wins hands down but since both the WvW and about 50% of encounters in PvE have multiple targets, it's foolish not to take advantage of bows for the strong damage output. I didn't pick thief so that I could kite all day with a shortbow, otherwise I'd have just played a ranger.

That said, aoe feels way too strong right now and I can't even dream of getting into the thick of a fight because projectiles are just bouncing off everyone and I'll end up flat on my ass in a matter of seconds. Being forced to play it safe at a distance is just boring the shit out of me and no, the dodge system isn't the answer when the entire battlefield is nothing but red reticles. I've never really been a fan of zerg games and this is the reason why: because there's no skill in it. I like a lot of the concepts in this game, but right now there doesn't seem to be a perfect place for me in PvP. Having finished the game, I can see why true world PvP would never have worked but I guess WoW will have to fill that void later this month.

Originally Posted by Jodou Heh, well hard to say who's winning since Anet keeps resetting it every night. Right now, it's more of a who can zerg the map first and take the most in the early hours because you can fight all day and never make up the lost points. So I've run into probably the biggest flaw with this game: it's not melee friendly at all. I'd say I'm using my bow 95% of the time in PvP and any scenario where there's aoe potential. This is simply poor design in the fact that I can't play the class the way I'd like to. In a 1v1 situation, melee wins hands down but since both the WvW and about 50% of encounters in PvE have multiple targets, it's foolish not to take advantage of bows for the strong damage output. I didn't pick thief so that I could kite all day with a shortbow, otherwise I'd have just played a ranger. That said, aoe feels way too strong right now and I can't even dream of getting into the thick of a fight because projectiles are just bouncing off everyone and I'll end up flat on my ass in a matter of seconds. Being forced to play it safe at a distance is just boring the shit out of me and no, the dodge system isn't the answer when the entire battlefield is nothing but red reticles. I've never really been a fan of zerg games and this is the reason why: because there's no skill in it. I like a lot of the concepts in this game, but right now there doesn't seem to be a perfect place for me in PvP. Having finished the game, I can see why true world PvP would never have worked but I guess WoW will have to fill that void later this month.

One, you haven't "completed" the game...really.

Secondly, zerging is what this is all about in PvP and I assume WvW right now. That's what is the "easiest" thing to do (run forward, hit a couple people, die, repeat) but you can rack up a lot of points if you know how to work the battlefield to your advantage.

Zerging is tough though because if even a two man group runs around and preys on 1 guy at a time its going to be super difficult to avoid that. Forget about trying to stop an all out assault that has the whole PvP team blitzing the middle of the map objective or 50 people trying to kick down a wall in WvW.

how is beating the last mission of a game not beating it?

Originally Posted by crystalklear64 how is beating the last mission of a game not beating it?

Has he completed every single heart and gotten every waypoint/POI in every map? I don't think he has.

Well, we beat NS last night since they came in 3rd place. Didn't get a screen because Anet was like 'derp, new build' and booted us all out immediately. We're also fighting Henge of Nerds or w/e, so I'm pretty sure Anet made this a clash of the titans server week lol. I swear, that server has only one guild because PRX is EVERYWHERE. They're really oldschool, but I hadn't realized what a zerg they turned into. We already beat them the first day though, because it's just a matter of who grabs what early in the day that wins.

So are we expected to run with power/toughness/vitality gear for PvP? Was checking the vendor at there's absolutely no customization, which to me sounds terrible. All my stats are power/precision/crit damage because to me a thief should be high dps and damage mitigation comes from blind/dodge/daze (read: skill). Maybe someone should clue Anet in on how their classes work? I am curious to see how much difference it would make versus aoe, though. Then again, pretty bad to balance aoe around one stat but it wouldn't be the first time devs got something wrong.

Originally Posted by Thekrakrabbit Has he completed every single heart and gotten every waypoint/POI in every map? I don't think he has.

That's more of completionist, than beat the game. I'm at 61% though and might finish off the lowbie zones if I ever get around to crafting. It wouldn't take more than a few days anyway, but it's boring as .

Oh and actually it's impossible right now because a skill challenge in Straits of Hell is bugged. Could be sitting on two more exotic items which are selling for 1-2g right now if not for that.

Originally Posted by Jodou Well, we beat NS last night since they came in 3rd place. Didn't get a screen because Anet was like 'derp, new build' and booted us all out immediately. We're also fighting Henge of Nerds or w/e, so I'm pretty sure Anet made this a clash of the titans server week lol. I swear, that server has only one guild because PRX is EVERYWHERE. They're really oldschool, but I hadn't realized what a zerg they turned into. We already beat them the first day though, because it's just a matter of who grabs what early in the day that wins. So are we expected to run with power/toughness/vitality gear for PvP? Was checking the vendor at there's absolutely no customization, which to me sounds terrible. All my stats are power/precision/crit damage because to me a thief should be high dps and damage mitigation comes from blind/dodge/daze (read: skill). Maybe someone should clue Anet in on how their classes work? I am curious to see how much difference it would make versus aoe, though. Then again, pretty bad to balance aoe around one stat but it wouldn't be the first time devs got something wrong. That's more of completionist, than beat the game. I'm at 61% though and might finish off the lowbie zones if I ever get around to crafting. It wouldn't take more than a few days anyway, but it's boring as . Oh and actually it's impossible right now because a skill challenge in Straits of Hell is bugged. Could be sitting on two more exotic items which are selling for 1-2g right now if not for that.

Not surprising that you're sitting on real great items considering you are level 80! As far as PvP, it is able to be customized in a way based on your playstyle. Since you're a damage type of guy, roll with a glass cannon build. I personally use a long range, passable survivability guy.

So what do you guys find is the best way to gear out your level 80 characters?
The karma and gold prices on legendaries are ridiculous.
At first I thought dungeons would be the way to go but the loot drops there have been trash for me. Although I haven't done any of them on explorable mode yet.

Originally Posted by Thekrakrabbit As far as PvP, it is able to be customized in a way based on your playstyle. Since you're a damage type of guy, roll with a glass cannon build. I personally use a long range, passable survivability guy.

OK, so where do I get 80 gear with my stats for karma then? See the problem? They put the same stats on all the PvP vendor gear and the temple vendors in Orr are even worse because the stats are all over the place. I'm using 70-78 gear that I've got from quest rewards or drops because I can't find anything better without spending gold. Good thing they can keep the TP up for more than 15 minutes, oh wait. . .

Originally Posted by testisbest So what do you guys find is the best way to gear out your level 80 characters? The karma and gold prices on legendaries are ridiculous. At first I thought dungeons would be the way to go but the loot drops there have been trash for me. Although I haven't done any of them on explorable mode yet.

Karma is easy, just WvW or do pub quests all day. I could buy two pieces of gear right now but the stats are such trash that I haven't bothered. Instances are mostly worthless except for AC where you can farm gold fast (something like 1g/2 hours). I haven't done explorer mode on the last dungeon yet, but the loot we were getting from story was awful. Probably better to just farm gold and buy what you need at this point.

Originally Posted by crystalklear64 how is beating the last mission of a game not beating it?

Can you really beat a MMO?

Anyways grats. Heres hoping they release a expansion every 2 years so I never have to get into WoW. I just can't really see myself paying monthly ever again after this game. I realize theres more content in WoW but that doesn't justify the $15 a month for me when I have a backlog of games anyways.

Originally Posted by Monsta Mack Can you really beat a MMO?

Dunno, never played one.

You can beat Guild Wars 2 though.

From the sounds of things, the game is good, but the items and drops aren't. Perhaps waiting a few months for some patches to sort things out (i.e. balance the game more) is best...

Originally Posted by SynGamer From the sounds of things, the game is good, but the items and drops aren't. Perhaps waiting a few months for some patches to sort things out (i.e. balance the game more) is best...

Its playable and if you like PvP you could probably have enough fun to last till they fixed the problems (which are almost entirely PvE related).

But yea there are some pretty annoying bugs. Could have done with some more time in the oven.

So World v World is really fun. But does anyone else have issues with the ques? I'm on Henge of Denravi and I realize that there are guilds that just live in WvW but I had over a 3 hour wait the other day.
The thing is, sometimes I'll que before a group of my friends and they'll get in first. I'll wait another half an hour and nothing. So I relog and que up and I'm there in 20 mins.
It's not the waiting that annoys me, it's the fact that I might not even be qued. They need to show you your position in que.

yea i haven't been able to wvw yet. i've queued up twice for 2 hours each never got in. friends got in within 20 mins.

i've been doing some sPvP though instead. pretty fun stuff. me and my lads even came in second in one of the tournies! of course rewards are bugged so we didn't actually get anything but it was cool just to make it that far.