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Ok, I'm having a bit of a dilema. I REALLY want to like strat RPGS, but it turns out I don't think I have the patience. The two I've tried so far are Final Fantasy Tactics (ps1) and Tactics Ogre: Knights of Lodis (GBA). I couldn't tolerate the slow pace of FFT, I somewhat tolerated tactics ogre though. I really wanted to try Disgaea, La Pucelle, etc, but am I basically doomed when it comes to strat rpgs? Are any of the others a faster pace than the two I've tried? Or am I just a impatient bastard? Granted, I can tolerate turnbased RPGS like the FF's and stuff, but these irk me for some reason.

Thanks for help/suggestions.

both of those that you've tried are pretty slow. I'd say Phantom Brave is pretty fast paced. Stay away from La Pucelle: Tactics. I dont think Disgaea is all that slow.

Maybe they just arent for you, I dunno.

I am almost exactly the same way as the OP. I love the idea of SRPG but I usually get bored after 10 hours or so. I just can't be bothered to level up the SRPG way.

I feel like La Pucelle/Disgaea might be a slight bit faster-paced than FFT or TO, but not enough to make a big difference. Why exactly do SRPGs feel slower paced to you?

Originally Posted by jerfgoke I feel like La Pucelle/Disgaea might be a slight bit faster-paced than FFT or TO, but not enough to make a big difference. Why exactly do SRPGs feel slower paced to you?

You know what? I can't exactly pin-point it. Sure the battles are longer than I'd like, but it might be because the fact of tons of things to worry about. Maybe I'm just too dumb for these complicated games. I like turn based strat games (well...i like Advance Wars), but the idea of items for all your characters, and leveling them all up seems pretty daunting to me. I might give Disgaea and shot as my last effort since that seems to be the favorite to many gamers, I guess if that can't do it, none can.

I'm assuming SRPGs seem slower to the OP because they are slower, per battle, than regular RPGs. A fight in FFT can take five times longer than a turn based RPG fight, like in FFX or something.
I wonder why you want to play SRPGs if you don't like them? I don't like Football games, but I'm okay with that and don't buy them.
If you say what you like about them, maybe people can suggest other games you might enjoy.

Originally Posted by Chiba I like turn based strat games (well...i like Advance Wars), but the idea of items for all your characters, and leveling them all up seems pretty daunting to me.

I can see this to some extent... I tend to get similarly overwhelmed by games that have a bunch of different endings or a huge freedom in how you can upgrade/customize your characters. I always feel like I'm missing something important or going to have to finish the game a bunch of times (which I don't have time for.)

Ultimately, I just have to convince myself that I'm going to finish it once, my way, and there's nothing wrong with that. Sit back and enjoy the ride, I tell myself.

go to ign or gamespot and try to download some trailers or videos for Disgaea, Phantom Brave, and Makai Kingdom. I think it moves a lot faster. Tactics Ogre was painfully slow, even for me. All the PS1 ones are going to move pretty slow in comparison. La Pucelle is the slowest of the current gen NIS games.

I'm the same way. It's okay not to like srpgs; it just means you're less of a nerd than you thought

I haven't played the new shining tears, but the shining force series was a fast paced stratrpg series. Maybe hunt some of those down and give it a try. Im pretty sure the gba one is a remake of the genesis ones, so that might be a good place to start.

honestly, i dont think la pucelle, disgaea , phantom are up ur ally, i mean, sure the battles go fster, but the time ull have 2 invest levelling up ur characters like crazy just 2get by a normal battle make all ur effort....go down the toilet :(, i stopped the game cus i didnt feel like "power levelling" my characters for hours on end

Originally Posted by Noodle Pirate! I haven't played the new shining tears, but the shining force series was a fast paced stratrpg series. Maybe hunt some of those down and give it a try. Im pretty sure the gba one is a remake of the genesis ones, so that might be a good place to start.

Shining Tears isn't a SRPG :P

I really didnt think there was a lot of forced power leveling in those games, but maybe I'm used what amount they do have. Even some regular RPGs make you level a bit. It makes the battles very tight, every decision counts. I've had battles that have been decided by one move, down to like 1 vs 1. Extra fancy strategy will overcome a deficit in power, to a point. Its part of the fun.

Originally Posted by BIG5 I'm the same way. It's okay not to like srpgs; it just means you're less of a nerd than you thought

[darth vader yell] nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!

yea, i like games that are similar to strat rpgs like advance wars and fire emblem...but games like ff tactics and tactics ogre are too complicated and involved for me as well

I loved TO:KOL but had to stop 3/4 of the way in because the speed became unbearable. I would spend every sitting with the game in a single battle.

At least I'm not alone in my failure to be a true gamer :( haha. Thanks for all the help/suggestions guys. Turns out maybe strat rpg's aren't for me. *hangs head in shame*

I suggest Fire emblem, hard as hell but turns are pretty quick, for the PS 1/2 I'd suggest Ring of Red, the real time battles helps a bit.

Disgaea is the only strat RPG I have enjoyed. I tried 3-4 others, but could never really get into them. Disgaea is great in that it is pretty fast paced for a strat RPG (some of the battles can take a long time to finish, b/c of the sheer amount of enemies). Most importantly, its light on the strategy side. There isn't a million different variables you have to take in account. Most of the stratgey resides in powering up weapons and leveling up your characters. But the battles themselves are only a step or two above from those in FFX.

The only problem with Disgaea is its price.

I love strat. RPGs, but find the Nippon Ichi games to be a) HIGHLY overrated and b) slow, with relatively boring stories.