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A couple places are now speculating that because the "Virtual Console" can play TG 16 CD rom and Duo CD roms (which Hudson/NEC has cryptically confirmed will be 'supported' by the Virtual Console) and with the upcoming annoucement that Sega CD games will be supported, all that's left is the annoucemnt that if you already own the game, just stick it in the Rev and it works.

The so called "Virtual Console" is done through firmware already on the Revolution, straight out of the factory (unless Nintendo is just blowing smoke, which they have been known to do). Now, if they have the drivers and the game system is disc-based, is it that much of a stretch that the Revolution can play the actual games of any disc based console, using the original disc? My god, think of the built in games base the machine would have. Turbo Graphx, Sega CD, Sega Saturn... SEGA DREAMCAST... 3DO, CDi, Jaguar CD (hell, why not?) Maybe even Neo Geo CD. I think Nintendo is ready to drop a huge bombshell at E3.

Dreamcast, yes please. Even though I still have that system, it's one less I have to hook up.

I thought my hardon could not get any more hardon-er.

THAT IS NOT THE CASE.

MUCH TO EVERYONE'S DELIGHT.

Links? Sounds interesting.

dont get too excited, this is speculation from a cag user.

but dont get me wrong id love to see this happen, but id lean more towards emulation. i mean the games they are talking about, nes, genesis, snes, etc arent that big in size and should be easily emulated on a powerful console. dreamcast though, jaguar, now youre pushing the limits of even current PCs.

I don't see that happening really, it would be nice if I was wrong, but I don't think they'd go that route. Plus, AFAIK, Dreamcast would be out since they used a proprietary 1gb disc that would require a different laser to read than a standard CD-ROM.

Well, Hudson has 100% confirmed that Turbo CD games will be on the Virtual Console.

According to an announcement by Hudson's Japanese office, the Virtual Console support for TurboGrafx games, announced yesterday, includes both card and CD-ROM games. The Hudson/NEC-designed system was known as PC-Engine in Japan, where it enjoyed far more success and is remembered for several classic games which were never released elsewhere. The system underwent numerous revisions, going from a solid-state storage format to a few different CD-ROM formats. Today's announcement confirms that the Nintendo Revolution's emulation will cover games stored on ROM cards and at least one of the CD formats, known as CD-ROM2. Whether the Super CD and Arcade CD formats will be supported is currently not clear. Hudson notes that more than 670 games were released on the system over the years, 122 of which were published by Hudson itself.

Now that's the official annoucement that the Nintendo Revolution will play Turbo CD games, but via download? Those are some pretty big games for even a high-speed download.

But that's not all. Sega said at the conference, and I can't remember where I read it at, but they said (or Nintendo said) that Sega's Virtual Console support will not be limited to the Sega Genesis. Now obviously, that could just as easily mean the Sega Master System and Game Gear, but why stop there? If the Rev will support 200MB+ Turbo CD games, then certainly the door is open for Sega CD games, or Sega Saturn games, or maybe even Sega Dreamcast. Technically, it could be done. The system is disc based afterall, and can read at least four formats of media annouced already (Rev games, DVD movies, CD music, Gamecube ODs).

Look, obviously this wasn't something that was hatched at the 11th hour. Nintendo has planned this Virtual Console stuff all along. They've obviously been talking with 3rd parties about supporting it, and they're jumping into it. So is it THAT far fetched to say "Hey NEC, Sega, whoever the hell bought 3DO's IPs... how about letting people use their original disc-based games?" I would say that it's not a far-fetched theory at all.

so you think the drive will be able to play gc disks that spin backwards as well as dc games with crazy disks and hes other cds?

i wish, but i dunno.

Dude, your thread topic is extremely misleading for a post that's pure speculation. I'd ask for a question mark to be added but even that would be giving more credence than it deserves.

Originally Posted by Survivor Charlie It plays CDs of every CDrom based non-Sony console

So I can pop in my Xbox games?

Originally Posted by SilverPaw750 So I can pop in my Xbox games?

fo shizzle

what about my CD-I Zeldas, I have been hankering for Zelda since no Princess

Heh, I wonder if this includes those Zelda CD-I games.
http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/nintend...ngs-162757.php
http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/zelda/t...ngs-162670.php

While this would be great if if it was true, I strongly doubt it will happen. It doesn't make sense for Nintendo to allow you to play older, non-Nintendo games off of disc media. The first problem, is that these games have not been in production for a while. The only copies of Sega CD and such games you will find will be used, which results in absolutely no profit for Sega. Secondly, if this was true, the sudden demand for non-Nintendo disc based media would sky rocket, and far surpass any supply a normal game store would have. Third, I think it is safe to say that anybody with a collection of such games, probably already owns the corresponding console.

Now, what would make sense, is Nintendo to sell roms through their online service, charging a fee. This creates new revenue for them and the original company (ie Sega), without much work beyond emulation.

I'm just really hoping they'll have NiGHTS into Dreams available at some time...


Edit: Damn spelling errors

Originally Posted by SilverPaw750 So I can pop in my Xbox games?

Xbox games are DVD's not Cd-Rom's just an FYI.

Originally Posted by Sleepkyng so you think the drive will be able to play gc disks that spin backwards as well as dc games with crazy disks and hes other cds? i wish, but i dunno.

Why do people still believe the myth of the backward-spinning disc? That was dispelled ages ago.

Originally Posted by dayglo While this would be great if if it was true, I strongly doubt it will happen. It doesn't make sense for Nintendo to allow you to play older, non-Nintendo games off of disc media. The first problem, is that these games have not been in production for a while. The only copies of Sega CD and such games you will find will be used, which results in absolutely no profit for Sega. Secondly, if this was true, the sudden demand for non-Nintendo disc based media would sky rocket, and far surpass any supply a normal game store would have. Third, I think it is safe to say that anybody with a collection of such games, probably already owns the corresponding console. Now, what would make sense, is Nintendo to sell roms through their online service, charging a fee. This creates new revenue for them and the original company (ie Sega), without much work beyond emulation. I'm just really hoping they'll have NiGHTS into Dreams available at some time...

This would be a game collector's wet dream but I seriously doubt that the average gamer would run out and buy a bunch of 10 year old Sega CD games to play on his brand new Revolution. At best it would be a value added addition as they could say that their machine was backwards compatible with everything.

Personally, the Revo will be my first next gen console but not for the ability to play old games. Like someone else said, I already have the original systems for that.

Originally Posted by SilverPaw750 So I can pop in my Xbox games?

Of course. That is what the Revolution will feed on.

Originally Posted by Survivor Charlie Now obviously, that could just as easily mean the Sega Master System and Game Gear, but why stop there? If the Rev will support 200MB+ Turbo CD games, then certainly the door is open for Sega CD games, or Sega Saturn games, or maybe even Sega Dreamcast. Technically, it could be done.

I wouldn't hold your breath for Saturn and Dreamcast. Techincally, maybe the DC could be done since it had a fairly basic architecture, but I think emulating the Saturn's dual graphics processors plus the CPU would be a feat of unimaginable difficulty.

Now if Sega would port some of their Saturn stuff (Panzer Saga, Shining Force 3 pts 1-3) I'd gladly re-buy them all. This wouldn't be that trivial, unfortunately, because Sega's Saturn games, at least, were written in highly optimized assembly, which doesn't exactly lead to easy porting.

No way this would happen. This is nothing more then pure, fabircated speculation. The Rev would have to have every processor from every console in the system for this to work and have access to the architecture and languages from each system. Can you put a Sega CD in a dreamcast? No. Why? Because its a dreamcast, not a sega CD.

On top of that, the comment of "Now that's the official annoucement that the Nintendo Revolution will play Turbo CD games, but via download? Those are some pretty big games for even a high-speed download." is just dumb. The 360 has demos and trailers larger then the size of a CD already and 70% of America has broadband access.