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Revolution will see "extensive" third party support - Nintendo Paul Loughrey 11:21 24/04/2006 George Harrison discusses lessons learned from the GameCube Discussing the impending launch of the Revolution console, Nintendo of America's SVP marketing and corporate communications, George Harrison, stressed the importance of third party publisher support. In a recent interview with US magazine Game Informer, Harrison talked about the lessons learned from GameCube, noting that a lack of broader support outside of the company's own titles was detrimental to the machine's success, and it's a mistake Nintendo aims to rectify with its next generation console. "One of the lessons we tried to learn from GameCube was that we kept things too close. And so as we got ready to launch, we had some of our own great games but third parties were kind of behind the eight ball in terms of being able to have games ready," Harrison stated. In terms of early support for the Revolution, which launches this year alongside Sony's PS3, third party software ought to be available in abundance, Harrison confirming "We've got more than 1,000 developer kits including the controller kits, out, so there should be plenty there." Whilst Harrison refused to be drawn on the still-unconfirmed pricing strategy for the new machine, the company ethos of introducing "disruptive devices" into the market was echoed in the interview, as Harrison reflected on the current generation and mused on what's really important for generating success. "I think that, oddly enough, when people talk about horsepower, sheer graphical processing and things, the system that had the least impressive technical specs, the PlayStation 2, became the huge winner in the last generation," Harrison commented. "That told us that it wasn't always just about horsepower. One of the things that we did learn, and one of the reasons that we're here today is that you have to get third party involvement early and they have to be able to get access early." Nintendo plans to unveil further details on the Revolution console, its online and digital content support, and a number of first party software titles at the forthcoming E3 expo in May. As the convention draws closer, and the launch of the console approaches, third party developers are also starting to voice their support, and a number of launch titles are expected to be announced, if not displayed at the show in May.

I hope that this holds water. Nintendo needs more 3rd party support.

Nintendo needs the 3rd party support, and I think they'll get a sizeable amount this time around if they did what they said. That being said, it remains to be seen who will develop for what this time around.

I'm glad to hear some high-level executives admit they made a mistake with the last system. Here's hoping they remedy that problem.

Reality's Fringe, is your sig intentionally moronic and annoying?

Back on topic though, I'm really looking forward to seeing what third-party developers can do with Revolution's capabilities. Only about 15 more days until E3 comes around and we start seeing whether Nintendo can live up to all the hype.

Lessons learned from the gamcube? WTF? Those were lessons they should have learned from the N64 and applied to the gamecube. Thats 2 consoles in a row with limited 3rd party support. I know Nintendo moves slowly, but lets hope they really have learned that lesson.

they said this shit with cube too, I love my cube, but lets be honest, we have heard this over and over from them

We've already seen this with Red Steel. A third party developer never gets to give the official first look at a Nintendo system. So they can talk all they want, but if their actions continue to back it up, that's much louder.

Originally Posted by basketkase543 Reality's Fringe, is your sig intentionally moronic and annoying?

Depends on what context. It's a satire, so I guess the answer would be yes.

...Er, scratch that. I hate Nintendo. Everyone knows that.

Originally Posted by Reality's Fringe Depends on what context. It's a satire, so I guess the answer would be yes. ...Er, scratch that. I hate Nintendo. Everyone knows that.

Alright, just checking

Originally Posted by basketkase543 Alright, just checking

's ok. The sig causes confusion at times.

Speaking of which, I got this fun PM a while ago:
From narutoboy101:

"hello mr. fat guy just wanted 2 let u no that nintendo isnt 4 fanboys


p.s your a fat lard"

I love the children.

Originally Posted by Reality's Fringe 's ok. The sig causes confusion at times. Speaking of which, I got this fun PM a while ago: From narutoboy101: "hello mr. fat guy just wanted 2 let u no that nintendo isnt 4 fanboys p.s your a fat lard" I love the children.

He means well.

Time to lose some weight, Reality's Fringe.

Originally Posted by Foolman Time to lose some weight, Reality's Fringe.

I should, but I'm just so addicted to the cupcakes.

(for anyone who is confused, that's not me. I google image searched "Douchebag" and came up with that).

Originally Posted by Reality's Fringe I should, but I'm just so addicted to the cupcakes. (for anyone who is confused, that's not me. I google image searched "Douchebag" and came up with that).

It's obvious your avatar is the real you.

<3

It is good that Nintendo recognizes that they need good 3rd party support, but some of the 3rd party games that have been announced arent so exciting. (Spongebob?!)

Originally Posted by Reality's Fringe (for anyone who is confused, that's not me. I google image searched "Douchebag" and came up with that).

http://thefifthrule.com/T5R/?p=73
I actually googled it.

I remember Nintendo saying something similar with Gamecube :-/

Although if the Revo launches with either Mario or Smash brothers I will pick one up day one.

Even if they get the third party support, most Nintendo fans are too narrowminded to try anything not made by Nintendo besides the few rare cases.

Originally Posted by Blind the Thief It's obvious your avatar is the real you. <3

Mr. Itoi knows what the is up.

Originally Posted by Foolman http://thefifthrule.com/T5R/?p=73 I actually googled it.

You must be:
A. Real bored
B. Hungry for the truth

I don't know. I don't mean to sound like a pessimist about this, but is it even possible for Nintendo to get extensive third party support any more?

The N64 didn't have it largely because of the choice to go with cartridges over disks, and while Nintendo unquestionably tried harder with the Cube (the whole Resident Evil deal, for example), everybody "knew" the PS2 was going to come out on top, and that's where developers devoted the bulk of their effort. So it's a catch-22: how do you get third party support? You sell lots of consoles. How do you sell lots of consoles? You have lots of third party support.

I think that unless Sony does something massively stupid, like drop the PS3 for a cold grand, for many people -- developers included -- Sony is the obvious horse to bet on for the win once again. I think it's something of a fait acompli, and I don't really feel like it's Nintendo's fault, particularly.

With the Gamecube, Nintendo had this "Dream Team" theory of 2nd party developers moreso that really didnt work out for them.

The DS has paved the way to the Revolution. People were spelling doom by the hands of the PSP for the underpowered and gimmicky system. Support for the DS is not an issue. Its a momentum heavy industry, sure , but I think they are going to ride the DS momentum right into the Revolution.

1) Make development cheap(er)
2) Expand the market

I think they're heading in the right direction.