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This topic has been somewhat touched on in other threads, but I found this interesting, since the issue discussed here isn't the price, it's the crippled Blu-Ray functionality of the cheaper SKU.

http://gear.ign.com/articles/709/709495p1.html

Thoughts?

It sucks, you can't use Blu-Ray how it is supposed to be used, yet you still pay for it.

i read the article, and quite frankly, i don't see an issue. by the time 1080p televisions are the standard, playstation 4 or 5 will be out on the market. i own a 1080i tv with no plans to upgrade in the near future. the down conversion to 540p is the equivalent of 1080i. nonetheless, i'll be buying the $599 version because i like my equipment to be current and feature full. the whole 2 system tier is bull caca.

This isn't supposed to be used for what, 3-5 years anyway to ensure the HDTV user base is big enough right? I'm sure Sony will think of something by then...


...or not. Who knows.

Originally Posted by thagoat i read the article, and quite frankly, i don't see an issue. by the time 1080p televisions are the standard, playstation 4 or 5 will be out on the market. i own a 1080i tv with no plans to upgrade in the near future. the down conversion to 540p is the equivalent of 1080i. nonetheless, i'll be buying the $599 version because i like my equipment to be current and feature full. the whole 2 system tier is bull caca.

How is 540p the equivalent of 1080i? It's still half the amount of pixels on screen, even if they are displayed in progressive scan. The point a lot of people are missing is that, all things considered, the PS3 is a 360 with a Blu Ray drive for an extra $100. So whats the point of paying that extra $100 for Blu-Ray if it's gimped from the start and in a couple of years it will be worthless? Doesn't matter who you are, the $500 bundle is shit. If you've already got an HDTV, it's shit because in 2-3 years when ICT is implemented you'll have to buy a real Blu-Ray player to watch your movies in full res, and it's shit for people without an HDTV because by the time they finally do get an HDTV, the ICT may have made the Blu-Ray functionality moot. To put it bluntly, Sony has given people a choice of getting ed in the ass for $500, or getting ed in the ass with lube for $600.

im Tired of people crying about how sony priced this out of the range. if you dont like it DONT BUY IT. No one is forcing you to go out and buy a ps 3.

Originally Posted by Stuka How is 540p the equivalent of 1080i? It's still half the amount of pixels on screen, even if they are displayed in progressive scan. The point a lot of people are missing is that, all things considered, the PS3 is a 360 with a Blu Ray drive for an extra $100. So whats the point of paying that extra $100 for Blu-Ray if it's gimped from the start and in a couple of years it will be worthless? Doesn't matter who you are, the $500 bundle is shit. If you've already got an HDTV, it's shit because in 2-3 years when ICT is implemented you'll have to buy a real Blu-Ray player to watch your movies in full res, and it's shit for people without an HDTV because by the time they finally do get an HDTV, the ICT may have made the Blu-Ray functionality moot. To put it bluntly, Sony has given people a choice of getting ed in the ass for $500, or getting ed in the ass with lube for $600.

That's why I'm choosing to wait on buying an HDTV and a PS3 until everything gets sorted out and prices are dropped.

Sometimes I really wonder he you even bother posting... no actually I always wonder that.

Originally Posted by slidecage im Tired of people crying about how sony priced this out of the range. if you dont like it DONT BUY IT. No one is forcing you to go out and buy a ps 3.

Originally Posted by thagoat i read the article, and quite frankly, i don't see an issue. by the time 1080p televisions are the standard, playstation 4 or 5 will be out on the market. i own a 1080i tv with no plans to upgrade in the near future. the down conversion to 540p is the equivalent of 1080i. nonetheless, i'll be buying the $599 version because i like my equipment to be current and feature full. the whole 2 system tier is bull caca.

Its an issue because the output of the blu-ray movies on the crippled PS3 will only be slightly higher resolution than standard DVD's. Theres no point in even using that feature.

540p != 1080i.

Originally Posted by slidecage im Tired of people crying about how sony priced this out of the range. if you dont like it DONT BUY IT. No one is forcing you to go out and buy a ps 3.

Did you even read the article? In no way does it bash the price. In fact it says it should be considered a value and would be were it not for the crippling design flaws present. We get it that you are a Sony fanboy, but that doesn't excuse you from logic and reason.

Originally Posted by Tromack Did you even read the article? In no way does it bash the price. In fact it says it should be considered a value and would be were it not for the crippling design flaws present. We get it that you are a Sony fanboy, but that doesn't excuse you from logic and reason.

im saying im sick of people crying over the price. Noone is forcing these people to buy a system. Hell i was in eb the other day at these teenagers were pissed off and say SONY should sell the system for 199 cause they couldnt afford it. I though


get a freaking job and stop hanging at the mall all freaking day

Originally Posted by slidecage im Tired of people crying about how sony priced this out of the range. if you dont like it DONT BUY IT. No one is forcing you to go out and buy a ps 3.

You're in a ing PS3 forum, and Sony just recently announced their higher-than-hoped-for price range for the system. What the hell did you think would be talked about here? If you don't like the topics and comments, then move to another forum. Geez.

Originally Posted by slidecage im saying im sick of people crying over the price. Noone is forcing these people to buy a system. Hell i was in eb the other day at these teenagers were pissed off and say SONY should sell the system for 199 cause they couldnt afford it. I though get a freaking job and stop hanging at the mall all freaking day

And while I'm at it......

I wonder if these "teenagers" you mentioned are proficient in the use of proper grammar and punctuation. You certainly aren't. How long does it take to add commas and periods to your sentences? Or is the problem that you don't know how and where to place them? Either way, don't bash anyone for anything when you are seemingly unable to speak properly in your own native language.

Additionally, maybe it is a good thing that the afore-mentioned teenagers don't get a job like you suggested. Maybe they are focusing on their studies, so that one day, when they grow up to be a big boy like you, they will know how to use English better than you currently do. Bless the children for learning from their forefather's mistakes.

Originally Posted by slidecage im Tired of people crying about how sony priced this out of the range. if you dont like it DONT BUY IT. No one is forcing you to go out and buy a ps 3.

Uhhh... maybe they're complaining because they want to buy it but won't be able to afford it?

No.. no, nevermind. They must just like to whine. I'm surprised you don't get along with them better than you do.

Originally Posted by karmapolice Sometimes I really wonder he you even bother posting... no actually I always wonder that.

I think CheapyD gets a tax incentive to let slidecage continue to post here, some sort of "leg-up" program or something.

Originally Posted by dratsacras I think CheapyD gets a tax incentive to let slidecage continue to post here, some sort of "leg-up" program or something.

Originally Posted by the ender You're in a ing PS3 forum, and Sony just recently announced their higher-than-hoped-for price range for the system. What the hell did you think would be talked about here? If you don't like the topics and comments, then move to another forum. Geez.

who said it was higher then expected. i was hearing up to 800 bucks cause of the Dvd player in the system. 600 is a great price for the system at how the tech stands now.

will i buy the system- probally not. yes i can afford it but Im mostly looking at getting the new nintendo system since it will have a RPG release day. Now if ps3 had a good RPG coming out the same day it hit, then i would buy a ps3.


people act if they complain the price is too high sony will magically drop the price. Get used to it THE PRICE IS 599

Originally Posted by slidecage people act if they complain the price is too high sony will magically drop the price. Get used to it THE PRICE IS 599

A lack of demand due to a high price could "magically drop the price". Look at the 360 in Japan. I could afford the PS3 but thats too ing high a price.

Originally Posted by thagoat i own a 1080i tv with no plans to upgrade in the near future. the down conversion to 540p is the equivalent of 1080i.

No it's not... 540p isn't even an HD standard like 720p and 1080i are.

Good article, definitely picks out the reaons why I said the $500 model is a mistake if you plan to buy the PS3.

Im buying the 499 version.

why?

because i wont have a hdmi tv until the ps4 is released and i will eventually buy a 300-400gig HDD for my new 499 ps3 a year down the road for 50 bucks.

I honestly dont care about HDDVDs or BLUE RAY DVD movies its not like im going to be going out and buying the movies. (all 10 of them)

But i will most certainly enjoy the advantage of having a huge amount of storage space on blueray compared to 360 and regualr dvd roms.

That is why i dont mind paying an extra 100 bucks ovs the 360.