Wombat's size vs value debate
Posted 31 August 2007 - 04:21 PM
In my honest opinion you can not judge a games value on the size of its content. I used to have a modded xbox with a 80 GB hard drive where I could copy my retail bought games to hard drive to increase the speed at which they loaded and it also kept the disc drive in good condition because I could run the games without having to use the drive repeatedly. But anyways, when sending games to the hard drive I would see the size of the game. And you would be suprised on the sizes of some of the best and worst games. A great game like Marvel vs Capcom 2 was only around 300MB, where a crappy FPS would be over 3GB, and both were 50 dollars.
I guess the point is, the game can be 20 gigs on blu ray, but if it doesnt produce a good fun experience then it isnt worth the money.
Posted 31 August 2007 - 04:40 PM
If he wanted to go on the logic of game size vs. game quality, then wouldnt Vanguard:Saga or Heroes on the pc be the best game ever made? That game easily takes up more then 20 gigs of space on your hard drive. Wombat i think you just need to be quiet with shit like that . Warhawks size is no valid knock against the game in any way shape or form.
And just to let you know that i am having more fun in Warhawk then in the Call of Duty 4 beta. Because i can get into warhawk and play most of the time which is more then i can say for the call of duty 4 beta. I always get that stupid downloading game settings like 75% of the time when i try to play the game.
Posted 31 August 2007 - 05:37 PM
(disclaimer: I dont know actually know anything about the game itself, except that there is no multiplayer and you can both hover and fly which is pretty cool).
Posted 31 August 2007 - 05:45 PM
How can he justify buying any $60 Xbox360 game when 20GB+ PS3 games cost the same amount?
And nobody really brought up the headset. I paid $40 for the exact same Jabra BT-125 last year, so to get the game for basically $20 more is a bargain. Plus, the headset in the WarHawk package looks a lot cooler. It has the same translucent black plastic as the PS3.
Posted 31 August 2007 - 05:53 PM
Edit- Don't people rent games?? I mean, can't you go to BB or Netflix, or something...and try out the game? Just because there isn't a demo on PSN is a pretty lame excuse not to even try the game. You can't make a simple click on the net and get the game sent to your house?
Posted 31 August 2007 - 05:53 PM
One of his favorite games (and mine) is Oblivion, a game full of content; it's a world on a disk, with hundreds of things to do.
Warhawk, on th other hand is a very focused, close-ended experience. I'm not sure of the extent to it's content, but it's probably the same game over different maps.
Some of my favorite disks are old-school compilations, like Taito or the Capcom Collections. They're high in content, but fairly small in size; and a great value for the money.
Posted 31 August 2007 - 05:54 PM
As for the value of the headset comments, I think that is BS...you can buy that headset on ebay for about $10 and the $40 you spent was LAST year.
Posted 31 August 2007 - 07:03 PM
Posted 31 August 2007 - 07:05 PM
Kayden you would be awesome in Congress.
Posted 31 August 2007 - 07:17 PM
The size of a game has nothing to do with its value. Hell, paded Blu-Ray titles should be sold for $300 each if that were true.
Posted 31 August 2007 - 07:52 PM
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Posted 31 August 2007 - 10:02 PM
I'm listening to last-week's podcast, and Wombat bought Shadowrun for $30.
At $30 I would buy warhawk without thinking...I didn't have access to the beta as I didn't have a ps3 at the time. I got shadowrun recently for about $35 shipped...As for the battlefield comments, I don't believe that should be priced at $60 either. If there was a warhawk demo, and I really enjoyed it, then I would be more likely to drop the $40 for the DL game. Since I haven't had an opportunity to see if the game is something that I would like, I really don't want to drop $40 on the game. It is a really bad precedent to set for these companies to fell that it is ok to charge so much for so little content. It is the same issue that GH2 and DLC for the 360. They wanted too much money for a 3 pack song list. A good amount of people bought the first couple of DL, and then red octane stopped offering them for awhile. Then they come back with the same program due to the fact that a shitload of people purchased them and that they made a ton of money on it.
Posted 31 August 2007 - 10:49 PM
PS - Congrats to wombat on manning up and doing the show this week. I trully enjoy his and Cheapy D's work every week.
Posted 01 September 2007 - 03:10 AM
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Posted 01 September 2007 - 06:14 AM
Retail pressure to keep prices similar has a lot to do with this, but it really does feel like screwing the customer over. I mean, this game could fit on a PSP/Gamecube disc. Did it really justify a $40 price based on the content needed to develop it? I felt the same way about the $30 Oblivion Expansion. Fortunately with XBL points, it's possible to get deals in-store and the expansion probably cost me $15. Not really possible with PSN, as far as I know.
Warhawk should have been a $20 game, and it just goes to show how prices are out of control this generation in general.
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Posted 01 September 2007 - 02:58 PM
Im getting tired of people complaning about Warhawk for 40 dollars and it being multiplayer only. Has anyone played a battlefield game before? Battlefield is multiplayer only and its always full price. Warhawk is just an arcade-y version of battlefield.
Yep this is exactly how I feel. I am a huge fan of the Battlefield games on PC, they are basically MP only. I have logged over 200 hrs into BF2, so if that isn't getting your monies' worth then I don't know what is.
I also am already getting tired of all of the trashing of downloadable games. I have downloaded a few games like Half-Life 2 on Steam, I have no complaints about downloadable games if the medium in which you download and activate the games is a solid platform (which Steam is now imo). This is the wave of the future, people are going to eventually have to deal with it one way or another.