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#1 CheapyD

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Posted 23 May 2008 - 04:13 AM

Wombat and Cheapy discuss Xbox 360 and Wii broken promises, new releases, the latest video game industry and shopping news, your CAGbag questions and much more!
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Posted 23 May 2008 - 04:55 AM

Yeah first post

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Posted 23 May 2008 - 04:58 AM

ROFL tell me you didn't walk around all day with those lightsaber hilts.

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Posted 23 May 2008 - 05:18 AM

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Look out Hayden... Shipwreck and Wombat are out for your head!

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Posted 23 May 2008 - 05:26 AM

Hoorah, listening to the show right now.


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Posted 23 May 2008 - 05:32 AM

CheapyD Hate America lol

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Posted 23 May 2008 - 05:59 AM

Looks like a fun CAGtogether. Wish I lived in the area so I could attended. Too bad I live on the complete other side of the country in Seattle. We should get the CAGs together before or after PAX this year, that would be sweet.

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Posted 23 May 2008 - 06:04 AM

I actually lol'ed and could imagine CheapyD saying "PICS NAO!" in reference to Wombats dog.

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Posted 23 May 2008 - 06:18 AM

My comments: Cry Moarrrrr.... cry cry Customer Service sucks... who gives a shit. I don't need to be pampered like a baby when I go to the store. Go in, get out, and go home. Push as many people out of the way on either way.
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Posted 23 May 2008 - 06:30 AM

Sweet. I may take this w/me to LA tomorrow night.

#11 thorbahn3

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Posted 23 May 2008 - 06:44 AM

The News channel is wii 24connected. If you turn Wii 24connect off the download for new articles takes way longer. The loading you see is just loading the data from storage. Same with weather.
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Posted 23 May 2008 - 06:51 AM

Sweet, now I've got something to listen to during my five hour drive to the Sasquatch music festival tomorrow!

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Posted 23 May 2008 - 07:22 AM

I want me one of them console shirts. Unfortunately googling "console shirt" didn't exactly work.

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Posted 23 May 2008 - 07:58 AM

i must say i like the fact that cheapy and wombat talk about random stuff every week at the begening of every show,before they start talking about games.i dunno anyone else like this?also the show is very loose not meaning it doesnt feel to scripted.ala the major nelson podcast.

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Posted 23 May 2008 - 08:09 AM

The News channel is wii 24connected. If you turn Wii 24connect off the download for new articles takes way longer. The loading you see is just loading the data from storage. Same with weather.


I believe this is right. The Wii always has the latest headlines scrolling across the channel when I fire it up (as does the weather).

However, I think Cheapy is right about the Brawl levels; those seem to download when you connect to Wi-Fi on Brawl. Then again, I don't know if Nintendo ever said Brawl levels would specifically download overnight.

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Posted 23 May 2008 - 08:10 AM

Has Microsoft give any arcade names that they will remove? I want to get them before they remove it. I hate that they are doing that.
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Posted 23 May 2008 - 08:56 AM

Also, WiiConnect 24 has no leaderboards to speak of. But for News and Weather, WC24 gives you that. Downloadable levels, not so much. The Wii should just have a Wi-fi Connection Channel.

Also, your Bill Clinton impressions were terrible.

The PS3 had a single track from Lair on their store a few months ago, and it was free. I don't know if it's still there or not.
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Posted 23 May 2008 - 09:56 AM

hey cheapy,
do you realize thesimexchange.com is a data mining scheme? And if your name is Dick Gaywood you are either en fuego or you should seriously consider a name change.

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#19 stakis

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Posted 23 May 2008 - 10:05 AM

100% Agree with Cheapy on the tipping issue... I've teaching English in South Korea where we also don't tip for anything and all service I receive is awesome and not forced....

Its going to be hard to move back home in the next 3 months

#20 stakis

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Posted 23 May 2008 - 10:07 AM

i must say i like the fact that cheapy and wombat talk about random stuff every week at the begening of every show,before they start talking about games.i dunno anyone else like this?also the show is very loose not meaning it doesnt feel to scripted.ala the major nelson podcast.


Haha I think its my favorite part of the show

#21 lordwow

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Posted 23 May 2008 - 11:16 AM

Interesting analysis of the supermarket industry guys. I used to work for a supermarket in high school and part of college, and I was by far the fastest cashier in my checkout department (I ended up winning some big money once the company started doing "competitions" for speed and customer service at the end of my tenure).

I know I got a lot of flack from my fellow employees for working so quickly. It was a two-sided thing for me, for one, it impressed my bosses, which I suppose was a bit of a suck-up move, but the more impressed they were with me, the more hours I got. It also was great to have a lot of return customers know me and come through my line each time they came because they knew I was working about 3x as fast as anyone else.

The downside of this of course is that my co-workers would constantly question me as to why I would work so fast when I was getting paid the same. I tried to explain to them that it's not the point, that lots of people get paid the same thing to do the same job as someone else but do more or less work. I tried to keep my level of speed and consistency as high as possible regardless of how much I was getting paid.

Probably the most upsetting thing to me was getting thrown in the express lane (10 items or less). The problem with express, which is universally despised by cashiers, is that most people bring 30+ Items, and since you're bagging and scanning yourself, you have to do a lot more work, and you end up doing about 3x as many sales as the regular cashier due to the smaller size of the orders. My bosses would constantly put me on express BECAUSE I was the fastest cashier, despite the fact I despised it, and could move the larger orders far quicker if I had a bagger assisting me.

When I confronted my managers at the time about it, they stated that someone as fast as me had to be put on the express register every shift. So I went ahead and slowed down as slow as humanly possible as Cheapy described, and the next week was allowed to move back to the regular registers because my productivity numbers had dropped to among the worst on the front end.

This unfortunately is a common practice among most supermarket chains, and the best piece of advice I can give people is to never use an "express lane" unless the store is getting "slammed" (3+ people waiting in line at a register), the employees there are usually disgruntled and unhappy about their situation, because of the way who is going to work there is determined. In other words, the best cashiers often felt they were being "punished" for doing good work instead of getting a raise by getting thrown to the crappy express registers.
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#22 hoofrog

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Posted 23 May 2008 - 12:45 PM

I think Cheapy and Wombat got the 360 user-created content wrong. Microsoft has been working on this and it is beginning to pay off. A recent post from Major Nelson covered this exact topic (I cannot get link from work)

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Also, regarding the underperforming Xbox Live titles, I am assuming they will not be "listed" as a game for purchase, but it will still be listed in your account for redownload if you already purchased it. I seriously doubt they will deny you the ability to redownload a title you purchased from XBLA.

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Posted 23 May 2008 - 01:36 PM

WOW, how ironic that mrs. shipwreck wasn't there when Wombat had a dog emergency.

btw Cheapy, i thought you did well on Hard News considering the lack of time you had to say anything. People just wanted to break your balls on UGO (and i think it was broken). ;)
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#24 CheapyD

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Posted 23 May 2008 - 01:43 PM

I think Cheapy and Wombat got the 360 user-created content wrong. Microsoft has been working on this and it is beginning to pay off. A recent post from Major Nelson covered this exact topic (I cannot get link from work)

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But maybe most exciting, the Marketplace is going to be a way to get VelocityGirl reengaged with our market and reengaged with games. Because on the Marketplace, she's going to be an active member of the community, the community of people that play games like Tony Hawk.
Now, she might never pick up a controller, never take a run in the halfpipe but she'll be able to design and sell stickers, shirts, boards, sound tracks and even design her own skate park for those hardcore gamers like Striker.


Clearly this and XNA are two different animals.

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Posted 23 May 2008 - 01:49 PM

Clearly this and XNA are two different animals.


Definitely. Hell, even designing a level for an FPS game is extraordinarily difficult.
How is a normal person going to program a game?? I wonder if anyone would ever make an RPG creator game, like the ones from last gen, but have it where you could put that content online (possibly for sale).

If you make a custom paint job in Forza 2, is it for sale? How do you get paid (in game points?)? I remember this being something like what they're talking about...
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Posted 23 May 2008 - 02:23 PM

Oh and with Amazon, their hourly seller list is complete bs in most cases. I think some of the items on the list are paid for advertisements... especially when some items haven't been in stock for weeks, yet they remain high on the list that are allegedly updated hourly. Shady shady.
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Posted 23 May 2008 - 02:41 PM

cheapy, you were awesome on hardnews on Screwattack. all the complainers suck! good job and i'll prob pay more attention to their show now b/c i know you are involved.

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Posted 23 May 2008 - 03:05 PM

Cheapy,

I agree that Amazon sales-related "news" is pointless and not very informative. For one, Amazon is not Wal*Mart. I'm sure Amazon is one of the largest online retailers, but I doubt they move anywhere near the volume of the big box stores. Even if a game is doing well (or not doing well) on Amazon, it is not entirely predictive of the overall results when you take into account all sales channels. Also, it is not very telling because the rankings are just rankings, not actual sales figures.

I think a recent example of this is with GTA IV 360 vs. PS3 sales. Tons of blogs were reporting that GTA IV 360 was outselling the PS3 version on Amazon because the 360 version was #1 and the PS3 was #2. How is this news when we don't even know how much the 360 version was outselling the PS3 version? Was it by 1%? 15%? 75%?

IMO, leave all the sales reporting to NPD.

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Posted 23 May 2008 - 03:13 PM

Nice CAGcast Cheapy and Wombat.

One comment though, Cheapy could you have anymore more of a boner for Penny Arcade?
"The game got some bad reviews but those guys are probably just jealous of Penny Arcade", do you actually believe that, I mean come on !!!

Yeah, the game actually would have been as well reviewed as GTA, if everyone wasn't jealous of how awesome the guys at Penny Arcade are. :roll:

Time for someone to hail a cab and ask for Real Street.:D
Nice mid-cast burping though. Credit where it's due and all that.

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Posted 23 May 2008 - 03:28 PM

Cheapy - I've run into your credit card issue before myself. It usually happens to me after I go on vacation, where my credit card company puts a hold on the card until I verify that someone hasn't stolen it. Also, another time someone actually did steal my credit card and was trying to make charges in Paris and China.

So yeah, hopefully a quick call to your credit card company should fix that problem with your credit card & your xbla points =)