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#1 Paco

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 07:09 AM

Fuck YOU. Now you want to bone us on shipping too? Check this nice message I got.

Attention Seller!Starting in October, the maximum shipping cost in this category will be $4.00. You'll be asked to enter a shipping cost less than or equal to this cost for the first U.S. flat rate shipping service.
Get a head start on these changes by updating your shipping costs for this listing



So I'm selling something that costs about 2.79 to ship. Put in a dollar for a bubble mailer, and figure in the cost of gas to get to the post office to ship it. Ebay loves boning people. Yes this will get rid of the price gougers who love to rape you with the shipping dildo, but now any small time seller is going to get fucked over by this too.


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#2 bubbafett4hire

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 07:11 AM

that sucks but they've been making small screwed up changes for years something now about how you can;t leave negative feedback even if a seller deserves it or something like that it has to be neutral

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#3 Paco

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 07:19 AM

I know this is bullcrap. I'll just send everything media mail out of spite because of that. And tell customers "Thank ebay. You complained about paying that extra fifty cents, so now you have to wait a week or two more."
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#4 62t

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 07:23 AM

I know this is bullcrap. I'll just send everything media mail out of spite because of that. And tell customers "Thank ebay. You complained about paying that extra fifty cents, so now you have to wait a week or two more."


then your shipping score gets below 4.3 and you get banned

#5 Paco

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 07:25 AM

You get banned for having a shipping score below 4.3? So you have to maintain about a 90% or near 90% for shipping speed to stay good? What happened about you know, warning people about slow shippers? And it's not my fault that shipping is slow. Thank the post office for that, and ebay for removing the ability to use faster methods.
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#6 RiPaCRoMBiE

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 05:13 PM

that sucks but they've been making small screwed up changes for years something now about how you can;t leave negative feedback even if a seller deserves it or something like that it has to be neutral

Your incorrect. You can still leave negative feedback for sellers. You CANNOT leave negative feedback for BUYERS. You might want to get your facts straight before you rant about something...


Secondly, regarding the eBay shipping fee. There's an easy fix to this, require the seller to buy insurance of 2 or 3 dollars with your auction. That will level you out...


eBay is a tad retarded, but it's the best place to sell old games for ridiculous prices. love it or hate it, your not going to leave it.

#7 62t

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 05:16 PM

the problem is the upper management that made the decsion probably never sold anything on the site.

#8 RiPaCRoMBiE

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 05:28 PM

the problem is the upper management that made the decsion probably never sold anything on the site.


It's not upper management... It's all the people that charge 10 dollars to ship a quarter pound game using flat rate. I like the new feature a lot. I ship all my items using USPS Priority Mail and it only costs me $4 dollars. I will just make sure that all my items are insured now to not only protect my butt and their butt, but to make up any money I will be losing.

#9 Paco

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 05:44 PM

It's not upper management... It's all the people that charge 10 dollars to ship a quarter pound game using flat rate. I like the new feature a lot. I ship all my items using USPS Priority Mail and it only costs me $4 dollars. I will just make sure that all my items are insured now to not only protect my butt and their butt, but to make up any money I will be losing.


I'm sure the customers are gonna LOVE IT when I ship games without any padding or protection because ebay doesn't leave anything for it.
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#10 bubbafett4hire

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 05:56 PM

Your incorrect. You can still leave negative feedback for sellers. You CANNOT leave negative feedback for BUYERS. You might want to get your facts straight before you rant about something...


that's why i used the term " something like that " cause i was not %100 sure which it was but thank you for the correction

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 06:05 PM

It's not upper management... It's all the people that charge 10 dollars to ship a quarter pound game using flat rate. I like the new feature a lot. I ship all my items using USPS Priority Mail and it only costs me $4 dollars. I will just make sure that all my items are insured now to not only protect my butt and their butt, but to make up any money I will be losing.


And when was the last time you send something with priority mail? The current rate is $4.80 for 1 pound in the same zone. I agree with people charing $10, but the new rate isnt enough on bigger games and bundles.

#12 RiPaCRoMBiE

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 06:06 PM

Actually, I just sent something last night. It's cost me $4.75 for 1lbs. Ohh no, 75 cents, I think I might go broke...

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 06:09 PM

Actually, I just sent something last night. It's cost me $4.75 for 1lbs. Ohh no, 75 cents, I think I might go broke...


That and in additional to the increase fees and no money order (have to use paypal) will add up. Plus if I am selling something inexpensive it is not going to worth my time.

#14 RiPaCRoMBiE

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 06:13 PM

Then sell it on Craigslist... Don't forget, you can still sell in different categories. 99% of people don't search in categories, they search for Keywords. Make sure your title and keywords are fine tuned and you can still charge as much as you want for shipping in a different catagory.

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 06:26 PM

that blows.. but for me I just usually do free shipping and just bump up my buy it now price.. I don't do auctions too often, just fixed. Free shipping seems to be good for buyers even though I pay a higher final value fee.
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#16 Layziebones

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 06:28 PM

Then sell it on Craigslist... Don't forget, you can still sell in different categories. 99% of people don't search in categories, they search for Keywords. Make sure your title and keywords are fine tuned and you can still charge as much as you want for shipping in a different catagory.


Your just all about defending Ebay aren't you.

They'll take down auctions if you are trying to avoid the ship limit.


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#17 Vinny

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 06:54 PM

So what about people who only ship Priority? That starts at something like $4.15 right?

Anyway, this seems like a good idea if they enforce it for everyone. But I get the feeling the power sellers will bitch about it and then eBay will basically give them an option to charge more and screw everyone else over. In general, I'd say most people charge fairly for shipping, about $4-5 but this'll be a problem when it comes to oversized games.

And OP, $1 for a bubble mailer? Why the hell would you even spend that much on a bubble mailer? The #0s (6x9s) can be found for $.50 at stores and even less if you buy in bulk.

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#18 RiPaCRoMBiE

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 06:56 PM

lol my reply was deleted, nice job. Guess admins don't want me assisting members with how to proficiently save their money. gg.

#19 coolsteel

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 06:57 PM

Holy crap that got deleted fast.

Anyway the only thing I could figure was just buying envelopes in bulk, i've done it before, 100 cost about 27 shipped back in the day, probably not much more now. If I still sold as much as I used to I would do it but I barely sell any games anymore.

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 07:01 PM

I'm more annoyed about the 15% FVF. With a listing fee, the 15% FVF and Paypal fees you are at close to 20% fees. At least Half.com charges 15% and that is it. I started selling on Half.com more like I used to before selling on EBay and I like it better. Unlimited listings and stuff sells for more.

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 07:03 PM

Ebay can suck on my nut sack.

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 07:04 PM

I forget half.com exists sometimes, I gotta remember to list a few things on there one day.

#23 RiPaCRoMBiE

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 07:06 PM

I'm more annoyed about the 15% FVF. With a listing fee, the 15% FVF and Paypal fees you are at close to 20% fees. At least Half.com charges 15% and that is it. I started selling on Half.com more like I used to before selling on EBay and I like it better. Unlimited listings and stuff sells for more.

I understand eBay charging, but PayPal really takes a chunk out of your cash. I have been with PayPal a while and sold lots of stuff, and I've learned that anything over $500 dollars should be sent using USPS Money Order.

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 07:07 PM

Actually, I just sent something last night. It's cost me $4.75 for 1lbs. Ohh no, 75 cents, I think I might go broke...


WELL WITH EBAY FEES AND PAYPAL FEES you will go broke, and what about packaging and gas??! You sound like one those people who are payed to promote ebay on thier boards.

#25 RiPaCRoMBiE

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 07:07 PM

I forget half.com exists sometimes, I gotta remember to list a few things on there one day.


check your private messages...

anyway, half.com is okay, but everything seems to be a little overpriced :-\

#26 RiPaCRoMBiE

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 07:08 PM

WELL WITH EBAY FEES AND PAYPAL FEES you will go broke, and what about packaging and gas??! You sound like one those people who are payed to promote ebay on thier boards.


you'll go broke? I'm sorry, but selling my excess stuff on eBay or finds at yard sales isn't my only source of incoming. I have a 900+ balance on PayPal that I just let sit there for all my sales/shipping/buying/etc... I don't rely on this stuff to pay my bills... get a job?

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 07:35 PM

you'll go broke? I'm sorry, but selling my excess stuff on eBay or finds at yard sales isn't my only source of incoming. I have a 900+ balance on PayPal that I just let sit there for all my sales/shipping/buying/etc... I don't rely on this stuff to pay my bills... get a job?


Broke was an exaggeration, but they do cut into any profit a person could make. When you sail items that don't get that much money, then it eats into any profit that you could make. If you force Insurance then you will have those same buyers complain too, espeially if it only cost like $1.50. Iam a small time part ime seller, who mainly helps his brothers sells his game, so he can afford new ones, or so he might have extra cash to help the family. I already have a small income that doesn't involve ebay, and as for the job comment, you try getting a high paying job if you are disabled. FYI I am disabled, It nice you are obviously are so rich that these new rules son't effect you, and you can take in any little penny. Other people can't. Personaly, I am waiting to see how this effects ebay.

#28 Layziebones

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 08:42 PM

Haha. Somebody went to town on this thread. Glad that guy is silenced though.


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Posted 08 September 2008 - 08:51 PM

that new policy is going to suck.

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#30 io

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Posted 08 September 2008 - 08:57 PM

[highlight]I'm more annoyed about the 15% FVF[/highlight]. With a listing fee, the 15% FVF and Paypal fees you are at close to 20% fees. At least Half.com charges 15% and that is it. I started selling on Half.com more like I used to before selling on EBay and I like it better. Unlimited listings and stuff sells for more.


Bingo!

I'm doing some selling now to get in before those changes take effect. That is a ridiculous increase in fees. The shipping I don't mind so much because I've always had a $3.95 option for first-class mail anyway (on regular games - bundles and multi-packs are a different matter). However, even that is bad because now I will go from being on the low range of what people charge for shipping to the very highest. So now buyers' expectations will be cheap shipping and $3.95 will be "expensive" to some and that will probably get me a dreaded 4 out of 5 rating. And that is the other problem. To most people 4 out of 5 stars would be pretty good. I think a lot of people are inclined not to give 5 unless something is excellent (or shipping is free). Yet I bet eBay doesn't warn buyers that a 4 out of 5 means you are basically voting to ban that seller :roll:.

On the flip side, starting Sept 16th all fixed-price listing fees in DVD/games/etc will be only 5 cents... Of course the email they sent out highlighted this and glossed over the huge increase in closing fees.