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#1 Frankski

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 07:47 PM

Hey all

I was going through my house cleaning up stuff, since a recently discovered leak will necessitate some work, and found a HUGE cache of my wife's and my old CDs. What is the best way to rip these bad boys and put all this music on my computer?

My wife has an iPod that she loves, but I do not have a portable music player. I'm more likely to burn music in mp3 format to blank audio CDs and listen to them in the car.

I'm concerned because I'd love a program that titles and names all the tracks without me having to go in there and do it manually, but I've heard that iTunes (which my wife uses) doesn't let you burn mp3s to CD/DVD.

Basically, my heart and the music in it is up to you CAGs. Help me out!

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#2 Sporadic

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 07:49 PM

foobar2000 to rip
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#3 thespamofpower

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 08:18 PM

I haven't ripped too many CDs lately, but when I did I used CD-EX. It worked well and it has a built in tagging.

#4 crunchb3rry

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 10:58 PM

Hey all
but I've heard that iTunes (which my wife uses) doesn't let you burn mp3s to CD/DVD.


Yes, you can in iTunes.

I used to use dBpoweramp as a standalone ripper/burner. Try that.

#5 J7.

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Posted 15 September 2010 - 08:17 PM

I want to rip some CD's without losing audio quality to then reburn onto CD-R's that will still play in all my car, stereo, cd/dvd players, etc. Should I rip them into
MP3
WMA Pro
WMA Variable Bit Rate
WMA Lossless
WAV Lossless

I'm guessing WMA Lossless or WAV Lossless but which is better for quality and playability when reburned? I would also like to be able to play the files on Itunes and Ipod without having to rip each CD twice.

#6 2DMention

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Posted 15 September 2010 - 08:24 PM

iTunes does everything you need to do, and it allows you to make copies of CDs, just make put all songs on a playlist and hit burn CD. Couldn't be easier.

No need to fuss with all that technical stuff.
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#7 Sporadic

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Posted 15 September 2010 - 08:26 PM

I want to rip some CD's without losing audio quality to then reburn onto CD-R's that will still play in all my car, stereo, cd/dvd players, etc. Should I rip them into
MP3
WMA Pro
WMA Variable Bit Rate
WMA Lossless
WAV Lossless

I'm guessing WMA Lossless or WAV Lossless but which is better for quality and playability when reburned? I would also like to be able to play the files on Itunes and Ipod without having to rip each CD twice.


Do Apple Lossless if you want to play the files on iTunes & iPod without reencoding.

MP3 isn't lossless, WMA is shit and WAV is loseless and would play in iTunes/iPod but it would be double the size of an Apple Lossless file since WAV uses no compression.

#8 Chronis

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Posted 15 September 2010 - 11:06 PM

iTunes does everything you need to do, and it allows you to make copies of CDs, just make put all songs on a playlist and hit burn CD. Couldn't be easier.

No need to fuss with all that technical stuff.


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#9 Wolfkin

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Posted 16 September 2010 - 11:47 AM

yeah WMA shouldn't be considered an option for anyone. A guy a church as ripped all the gospel songs they use in WMA format and it's caused me no end in headache. But his version of WMP doesnt rip MP3s so it's not like I can even blame him.

For high quality ripping I used EAC
http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/

depends on how hardcore you want to go, Basically you can use EAC to rip the audiofiles whole.. then use lame or something to compress them once their on your HD. I kinda want them in AAC format but the only AAC encoder I can find that isn't outdate is iTunes.

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#10 2DMention

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Posted 16 September 2010 - 02:17 PM

The only person that I know that insists on WMA files is someone who is working on his PhD is music.

Only a trained ear can tell the difference.
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#11 Phelmo

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Posted 16 September 2010 - 02:36 PM

I used to use Windows Media Player to rip CD's... (yeah.. really).

From there I was able to put them into iTunes and then on my phone or whatever I wanted.

#12 MushaOne

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Posted 16 September 2010 - 02:50 PM

yeah WMA shouldn't be considered an option for anyone. A guy a church as ripped all the gospel songs they use in WMA format and it's caused me no end in headache. But his version of WMP doesnt rip MP3s so it's not like I can even blame him.

For high quality ripping I used EAC
http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/

depends on how hardcore you want to go, Basically you can use EAC to rip the audiofiles whole.. then use lame or something to compress them once their on your HD. I kinda want them in AAC format but the only AAC encoder I can find that isn't outdate is iTunes.


Here is a good site to rip it with EAC.

http://blowfish.be/eac/index.html

Most of the cds you will be ripping are probably in the database. If you have a brand new cd or some rare local cd you MAY have to enter the data in yourself. That is not common though.

FLAC is best quality (lossless) but you may have to find the right plug in to burn the FLAC to play on a cd. I dont burn cds like that anymore so cant say. You can rip the cds to FLAC and sell or trash the cds. With FLAC you and then use dBpoweramp to convert to any other bitrate later on if you so desire.

v0 is perfect if you just want to listen to music on your computer. If you decide later that you want to listen to music on an MP3 player v2 would probably be the best bet since the file size is a little less than a v0 rip.

I would never rip a cd with iTunes, WMP, foobar, or winamp. I suppose if you download the right plugins you could get an equally good rip as EAC, but using the default options probably not. EAC takes a few minutes to config properly but once you follow the guide you have an easy way to rip properly.

#13 Wolfkin

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Posted 16 September 2010 - 04:35 PM

The only person that I know that insists on WMA files is someone who is working on his PhD is music.

Only a trained ear can tell the difference.

good grief. I'm not saying you can't get a decent sound from WMA but the best sound? that's crazy sounding. Sound like he's the sort of person who should be insisting on formats only the geek use like FLAC or APE or something equally obscure but a music man insisting on WMA over even something like AAC that's new to me.

I used to use Windows Media Player to rip CD's... (yeah.. really).

From there I was able to put them into iTunes and then on my phone or whatever I wanted.

WMP is a capable ripper i guess. I have bigger beef with WMA format which I doubt you're using as those don't go into iTunes or most phones without double converting.

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#14 Guest_strongpimphand_*

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Posted 16 September 2010 - 04:46 PM

iTunes does everything you need to do, and it allows you to make copies of CDs, just make put all songs on a playlist and hit burn CD. Couldn't be easier.

No need to fuss with all that technical stuff.

EXACTLY!

....but....if you're a tag stickler like me....

after you're done ripping in itunes, run the music folder through mp3tag and get the amazon style tagging with covers typically.

#15 Wolfkin

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Posted 16 September 2010 - 08:21 PM

i dunno I actually like iTunes for tagging. what is meant by this aMaZOn style tagging? and i think iTunes does covers now.

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#16 Strider21

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Posted 16 September 2010 - 08:40 PM

Use eac. Exact audio copy. It's a bit technical but it's what the Nazi audiophiles use. You can rip it to either mp3 vbr or for true lossless, use flac. iTunes and windows media really blows

#17 mang9432

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Posted 16 September 2010 - 09:21 PM

I'd like to second EAC, or XLD if you are on a mac. I love itunes as a player / organizer, but am not crazy about it's ripping.

Before you go ripping tons of CD's, read up a little bit on lossy / lossless audio encoding.

If all you want to do is ensure compatibility between your wife's ipod, and any other device, a high bitrate MP3 will be good. (probably a V0 (variable bit rate, high) , or 320 constant bit rate ) both are a good trade off between size and quality, and provide compatibility with pretty much everything.

If you are going to be burning them back to CD's often, and care at ALL about the quality, use a lossless codec. ALAC (apple lossless audio codec) will play back on your wife's ipod, and any "idevices" and burn back to a CD with no discernible loss in quality from the original source. FLAC (free lossless audio codec) will do the same, but will not be compatible with your wife's ipod.

When you encode audio using a lossy codec (mp3 / aac / wma etc...) and then Re-encode to an Audio CD, you worsen the artifacts that take place in the encoding process and it will sound like balls.

Personally, I don't listen to audio CD's ever, so I encode stuff using XLD to MP3 V0, using the tagging built in, and then import into iTunes, and share on my home network for playback on everything, including my iPhone.
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#18 evildeadjedi

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Posted 16 September 2010 - 09:22 PM

If I'm listening to them on PC, FLAC all the way.
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#19 mang9432

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Posted 16 September 2010 - 09:30 PM

If I'm listening to them on PC, FLAC all the way.


FLAC is great, but not if you need to put it on an ipod.
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#20 Wolfkin

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Posted 16 September 2010 - 09:36 PM

yeah and i got hooked on iTunes back when it was light-weight, fast and could drill thru huge databases of songs like nothing. now only the last is still true. -_-

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#21 Z-Saber

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Posted 16 September 2010 - 09:38 PM

EAC. The other ways are inferior.

#22 J7.

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Posted 17 September 2010 - 05:43 AM

Which of these other superior ways to rip will work on Itunes and Ipod as well?

#23 Sporadic

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Posted 17 September 2010 - 05:53 AM

Which of these other superior ways to rip will work on Itunes and Ipod as well?


Do Apple Lossless if you want to play the files on iTunes & iPod without reencoding.

MP3 isn't lossless, WMA is shit and WAV is loseless and would play in iTunes/iPod but it would be double the size of an Apple Lossless file since WAV uses no compression.


EAC + FLAC is nice if you are making an archival copy but FLAC won't play natively on iTunes or the iPod.

You can rip to Apple Lossless with iTunes or foobar2000.

#24 Wolfkin

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Posted 17 September 2010 - 01:21 PM

Which of these other superior ways to rip will work on Itunes and Ipod as well?


most of them.
you can use EAC to rip. it's what you do after you rip that matters.
EAC gives you many options. for what you want (itunes+iPod) you can do MP3, or AAC. (192kbps or higher) those are your easiest options.

unless you're an audiophile or you have a really expensive audio playback equipment those should be perfectly fine.

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#25 J7.

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Posted 18 September 2010 - 04:26 AM

EAC + FLAC is nice if you are making an archival copy but FLAC won't play natively on iTunes or the iPod.

You can rip to Apple Lossless with iTunes or foobar2000.


I did see your original response, sorry for not being clear or responding to it earlier. By other superior ways I meant really EAC and FLAC and whatever else was mentioned to be the very best. I quickly read those last posts and need to read them more carefully. TY.

most of them.
you can use EAC to rip. it's what you do after you rip that matters.
EAC gives you many options. for what you want (itunes+iPod) you can do MP3, or AAC. (192kbps or higher) those are your easiest options.

unless you're an audiophile or you have a really expensive audio playback equipment those should be perfectly fine.


So EAC allows you to rip as EAC files and then it will allow you to convert those to MP3? If I need to have 2 files of each song I might just do Apple Lossless instead if I wouldn't be able to tell the difference for the most part. Maybe just do EAC for my favorite albums. TY.

#26 Wolfkin

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Posted 18 September 2010 - 05:16 AM

basically EAC just copies the entire CD to your HD. it's better to copy and THEN convert so you don't have to worry about CD skipping.

We like EAC over other programs because it's good at error correcting and all that anti-skip stuff you read about.

once it's ripped you can do anything. you can do AL or MP3 or both.

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#27 J7.

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 03:47 AM

Cool. Do you know if PS3/360 will let you import music from EAC rips on your PC without converting them to MP3?

#28 Wolfkin

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 05:03 PM

short answer is doubt it. I'll run some tests but I think the PS3 will play MP3, AAC, and ATRAC I don't know if it will play WAVs

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#29 mang9432

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 05:09 PM

short answer is doubt it. I'll run some tests but I think the PS3 will play MP3, AAC, and ATRAC I don't know if it will play WAVs


PS3 definitely supports WAV, i'm not sure about the 360, have to try it
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#30 J7.

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Posted 27 September 2010 - 04:54 AM

If I have ripped cd's that are full of mp3s and shit downloaded off kazaa and napster from way back that may have had viruses (the files before they were ripped) would they be transferred to a new PC or did it convert them when I ripped the files onto the cd into a format that did not carry the virus onto the CD itself?