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#1 RAMSTORIA

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 06:59 PM

Apple (AAPL) will start selling the white iPhone 4 starting Thursday, the Cupertino company announced today.
The phone, which was delayed by production problems, will be sold at Apple's online and physical stores, AT&T and Verizon stores, and other retailers.


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Apple today unveiled the iPad 2, the follow-up to the original iPad it released last April. The iPad 2 features an all-new design along with new features including built-in cameras and a new gyroscope.

At the heart of the iPad 2 is a 1.2GHz dual-core Apple A5 processor, a boost over the 1GHz A4 in the first iPad. Apple says the A5 is two-times faster than the previous processor, and graphics performance is nine times faster.


Full Story - http://www.pcworld.c...als_ipad_2.html


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Verizon iPhone Official.

We've waited and waited, and now Apple and Verizon have made a million dreams come true: the iPhone is coming to Big Red. After talking up his new LTE network a bit, Verizon CEO Lowell McAdam confirmed a CDMA (non-LTE) version of the iPhone 4 is coming to Verizon Wireless next month. Talks started way back in 2008, and the phone has been in testing for a year -- it sounds like they wanted to get this one right. Current Verizon customers will be able to pre-order on Feburary 3rd for the standard $200 price for the 16GB model on a two year agreement, $300 for the 32GB version -- everyone else can order on February 10th (see it compared with AT&T's iPhone 4). Just to clarify and put any wild rumors to bed, the phone is Verizon 3G (EV-DO) only, no 4G data or GSM roaming. It's not a world phone or an AT&T + Verizon phone, it's just a Verizon phone.

Outside of Verizon connectivity, the phone is basically unchanged, although Verizon's CDMA network doesn't support simultaneous voice and data as with the GSM version. It does have the new antenna design we were hearing about last week, but that's just because CMDA requires a different configuration of antennas. (Apple says they didn't go LTE just yet because first-gen chipsets would force unwanted design decisions, and customers want a Verizon device now.) That slight modification also equates to a slight bump in where the volume buttons and mute switch -- a new case might be required. Software-wise the big innovation is five user WiFi hotspot functionality, something that's standard on Android phones, while Apple has kept the iPhone only able to tether directly to one computer.

Check out our full hands-on with the Verizon iPhone right here, and stay tuned -- we've got lots more coming up.


http://www.engadget....verizon-iphone/





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iOS 4 introduces the Game Center app. An out-of-the-box social gaming network for iPhone 4 and iPod touch. Invite friends to join. Then totally crush them. Take a look at how your score ranks among your friends and other players of each game. Compare game achievements with your friends. Get matched up and put together a select group of friends to play. Or choose to automatically go up against people you don’t know in a multiplayer game.


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#2 jacknicklson

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 07:07 PM

There is also the reversed volume buttons

http://www.sfgate.co...?entry_id=66599

Seems like its limited but still something to look out for

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 07:43 PM

I don't own an iphone ....but that's just nuts...you can't hold it a certain way and apple telling consumers that's its your fault? what?

How the hell are you suppose to hold it? With gloves? Tweezers?

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 08:11 PM

Here is the comparison vid I made:


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Posted 25 June 2010 - 08:12 PM

I don't own an iphone ....but that's just nuts...you can't hold it a certain way and apple telling consumers that's its your fault? what?

How the hell are you suppose to hold it? With gloves? Tweezers?


There are two points (one on each side) at the bottom of the phone where the different antennas are split and separated by a small gap. The problem is that if your fingers are right over that gap, they end up acting as a conductor between them and shorting them. To be fair, it's not really a design flaw per se -- these antennas would have to be separated no matter how or where they're situated. It's only a problem because they're on the outside of the phone, and thus exposed to things (like fingers) that could cross them. There's no real way that it could be avoided with external antennas. From what I've read, it's only actually a problem if both gaps are crossed.

Personally, I think that it would be incredibly uncomfortable to hold the phone in such a way that the gaps on both sides would be crossed like that. I've tried, and it just felt unnatural. But that's just me, I guess.

For those who are having problems, a case or a bumper (which is a good idea anyway) should clear it up. So I actually kind of agree with Jobs on this one -- not really an issue.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 08:17 PM

That being said, I'm trying to run my phone battery all the way down before charging it, and I'm trying to use streaming media to do it, and the signal keeps dropping. I'm pretty sure that's AT&T's crappy network, though, because the phone is reporting five bars of service. I hope that we're not in for another round of AT&T-can't-keep-up-with-the-network-demand issues.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 08:28 PM

That being said, I'm trying to run my phone battery all the way down before charging it, and I'm trying to use streaming media to do it, and the signal keeps dropping. I'm pretty sure that's AT&T's crappy network, though, because the phone is reporting five bars of service. I hope that we're not in for another round of AT&T-can't-keep-up-with-the-network-demand issues.


yeah, i thought that my hand positioning was messing with the signal (and im pretty sure it is) but i think its being compounded by bad reception at work. when i used the phone outside the office i didnt notice any significant problems with reception. hard to say because ive been using the phone actively less than 12 hours now. will just have to give it a little more trial and error.

In extremely weak signal conditions in our lab and our basement, the iPhone 3GS actually connected slightly more calls successfully than the iPhone 4 did


so im thinking maybe i just worse reception at work with this phone. if thats the case, then its something i can live with. if i continue to have poor results when im out and about or at home, then we got a big problem.

i do expect some kind of backlash from steve jobs "avoid holding it that way" response and would think that apple is going to have to address this in the near future in a more useful capacity.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 08:31 PM

With my media streaming issues, I have the phone just sitting on my desk, and I'm not even touching it. So it's definitely not a problem with how it's being held there.

I did make a couple of calls earlier (to Apple about the yellow spot issue, actually), and didn't have any reception problems whatsoever with those.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 08:49 PM

my cell phone carrier still doesn't carry iphones. It's getting pretty annoying

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 08:55 PM

That being said, I'm trying to run my phone battery all the way down before charging it, and I'm trying to use streaming media to do it, and the signal keeps dropping. I'm pretty sure that's AT&T's crappy network, though, because the phone is reporting five bars of service. I hope that we're not in for another round of AT&T-can't-keep-up-with-the-network-demand issues.



there is no reason to fully discharge an iphone's battery before recharging. lithium ion batteries have no memory


http://www.apple.com/batteries/



You can also recharge a lithium-ion polymer battery whenever convenient, without the full charge or discharge cycle necessary to keep nickel-based batteries at peak performance. (Over time, crystals build up in nickel-based batteries and prevent you from charging them completely, necessitating an inconvenient full discharge.)


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Posted 25 June 2010 - 08:58 PM

there is no reason to fully discharge an iphone's battery before recharging. lithium ion batteries have no memory


Yeah, I know, but I figure what the hell . . . can't hurt.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:04 PM

Yeah, I know, but I figure what the hell . . . can't hurt.



yeah, but it is a waste of time and literally pointless.

You remind me of my wife. She read the insert for activating the iphone 4 and it says to first fully charge the phone. She asked if I did and I said no and that doesnt matter. She was like "but it says to do it!"

These batteries are nothing like the old batteries where you had to fully discharge and you couldnt just willy nilly throw on a charger.
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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:38 PM

I won't be getting the iPhone 4 anytime soon but I'm digging the iOS 4.0 update for my 3GS.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:54 PM

yeah, but it is a waste of time and literally pointless.


Haha. You severely underestimate the power of sitting at a desk all day with nothing better to do. :lol:

To be fair, this was also an exercise to see just how much the battery could take before being depleted. I'm pretty impressed with it, I had to do a lot more with the phone than I normally would do with it in an average day to wear it out. Definitely better than my 3G was, even when it was new.

You remind me of my wife. She read the insert for activating the iphone 4 and it says to first fully charge the phone. She asked if I did and I said no and that doesnt matter. She was like "but it says to do it!"



Heh, actually mine came out of the box reporting a 98% charge, so I figure that they had already fully charged it before boxing it up.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 09:55 PM

yeah..the battery life IS noticeably better. At my usual phone plug in times the new one really doesnt need it
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Posted 25 June 2010 - 10:07 PM

Only thing iPhone is good for is to hear about how iPhone people got screwed over a 4th time, or is it a 5th? lol

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 10:14 PM

I'm preordering one this weekend. I just confirmed that I can transfer my blackberry service to the iPhone so that's what I'll do. My work pays for my blackberry ($48/month) but the device is in my name (I actually get reimbursed). We get an 18% discount on service from AT&T so the iPhone plan will be roughly $61/month meaning I only have to pay $13/month for this thing. I currently pay $45/month for my crappy Verizon phone that is like 4 years old and doesn't do any sort of data other than the archaic text messages via keypad so this is a definite win for me.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 10:20 PM

yeah..the battery life IS noticeably better. At my usual phone plug in times the new one really doesnt need it


im at 42% right now. phone has been away from the charger for 8 hours now. so thats pretty good. only made a couple of calls, but have been using apps throughout the day like facebook, words with friends and carcassonne. so it does seem a bit better.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 10:34 PM

There are two points (one on each side) at the bottom of the phone where the different antennas are split and separated by a small gap. The problem is that if your fingers are right over that gap, they end up acting as a conductor between them and shorting them. To be fair, it's not really a design flaw per se -- these antennas would have to be separated no matter how or where they're situated. It's only a problem because they're on the outside of the phone, and thus exposed to things (like fingers) that could cross them. There's no real way that it could be avoided with external antennas. From what I've read, it's only actually a problem if both gaps are crossed.

Personally, I think that it would be incredibly uncomfortable to hold the phone in such a way that the gaps on both sides would be crossed like that. I've tried, and it just felt unnatural. But that's just me, I guess.

For those who are having problems, a case or a bumper (which is a good idea anyway) should clear it up. So I actually kind of agree with Jobs on this one -- not really an issue.



You know I was actually thinking about will it be ok with a case on it? Considering the price tag of that thing, I would want it incased in some sort of protective housing.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 10:35 PM

Man I hope a jailbreak is out soon. I seriously need 5 icon dock, iRealSMS and 3G Unrestrictor (for facetime)
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Posted 25 June 2010 - 10:36 PM

my cell phone carrier still doesn't carry iphones. It's getting pretty annoying



and it's going to be like that for a long while ..or until 2012. ..or they could screw us over by renewing their exclusivity to the network indefentily. Not to start a flame war, but the iphone technology is great, but it's on the wrong wireless network carrier. People use the phone more for applications than the phone itself.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 10:38 PM

I seriously doubt Apple will sign another exclusivity deal with anyone. They can likely make more by going to as many carriers as possible so they can sell as many phones as possible.

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Posted 25 June 2010 - 10:39 PM

I strongly believe that no matter which carrier the iphone would have started out on, people would have bitched. I don't think anyone's network was ready for the iphone when it came out.
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Posted 25 June 2010 - 11:26 PM

I've been reading around and it seems that even though other phones like the Droid X and the Evo 4G have a higher mp camera (8mp) the actual image quality of the iphone 4's 5mp images are better. Anybody else read anything about this?
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Posted 26 June 2010 - 12:18 AM

I've been reading around and it seems that even though other phones like the Droid X and the Evo 4G have a higher mp camera (8mp) the actual image quality of the iphone 4's 5mp images are better. Anybody else read anything about this?


yeah ive read similar things. i took a photo of my bookshelf with my 3g and then with my 4. this image quality is vastly better. dont know anyone with a droid x or evo to compare though.

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 12:49 AM

Mp has nothing to do with image quality just with size
The lens is what matters

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 01:10 AM

I strongly believe that no matter which carrier the iphone would have started out on, people would have bitched. I don't think anyone's network was ready for the iphone when it came out.



The world in general wasn't ready for the iphone or the app store lol.

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 01:38 AM

3g facetime doesn't look promising by the engadget article. (edit ...someone mentioned it in here...whatever)

http://www.engadget....-we-had-to-try/

I am still waiting on the second shipment from best buy. blarg

How is the antenna for everyone? I know it 'drops bars' but according to Walt Mossberg at the Wall Street Journal he said its just a software thing and it doesn't effect the calls, then people are posting videos of it actually dropping calls. So has it effected u cags at all?

Anyone know of a site that shows app store updates and their fix log so i know that its been patched to use multitasking, etc.
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Posted 26 June 2010 - 02:12 AM

When I receive or make calls to my wife her contact picture is full screen but on her end my contact picture is just in the top right corner. She wants it full screen as well. Anyone know how to change that?

EDIT: nevermind..figured it out

Browse to the contact and tap edit.
Tap on the photo.
Tap edit photo.
After it opens in fullscreen, tap set photo and save the contact.
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#30 Crunchewy

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Posted 26 June 2010 - 03:30 AM

Is everyone here having the antenna issue, or perhaps is it a defect in only some iPhone 4's? I'm hoping it's the latter. If it's all of them I'm going to have to consider canceling my order. I hope Apple and Jobs will clarify the situation soon.