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CAGcast #206: The Star Wars of Your Generation


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#1 CheapyD

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 06:29 AM

This week's show features discussion of Limbo, Deathspank, new Xbox 360 hardware, Dead Space 2, and Inception. We've also got the latest gaming and shopping news, your CAGbag and Twitter questions and much more!

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#2 CouRageouS

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 06:50 AM

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#3 Agent ShortBus

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 07:01 AM

Can finally go to sleep tonight after listening to this of course.

#4 JMEPO

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 07:07 AM

Awesome! I have a 5 hour plane ride to LA tommorow; will deffinatley make the trip quicker.

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 07:08 AM

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#6 Clarke

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 08:38 AM

I thought I had listened to this one already because Mega64 used the Inception soundtrack for the theme song on their podcast earlier this week.

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#7 CheapyD

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 08:45 AM

Well, I can pretty much guarantee the two shows end differently. ;)

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 09:01 AM

Roughly an hour in, loving the show so far. Saving the rest for the road tomorrow at work.

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 09:03 AM

Yeah, I've heard the Inception theme on four or five podcasts this week so far. :lol:

With the whole price thing, I find it odd that Wombat constantly goes to the "I can buy all of these old games" argument. If you're going out for lobster, do you think of how many McDonald's hamburgers that you could buy for the same price? I just think it's strange to compare a new game to cheap three year old games that no one wants to play anymore.

At that point, why buy any new games at all? If you only had 60 dollars, your money is always best spent buying used games. Why buy Halo Reach when you can get Halo 3, ODST and Halo Wars for the same price? That's three times more Halo!

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 09:47 AM

I have not played Limbo yet, but I could see it's lack of story being like certain paintings in which it's not clearly defined, and it could be interpreted differently by each person that sees/plays it. Such as each person could make up their own story for the game, rather than have it be spelled out completely for them, with the chance of the person absolutely hating the story. Instead you have a fun artistic game that you can let your imagination run wild with.

This was a really good show, aside from Cheapy rambling on about his newly purchased iPhone 4 and iPad, in which he summed up as "I like it". That was somewhat annoying.

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story isn't outstanding.. but the fact you can rub a girl and make them naked? and hear them moaning ?

 

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#11 collipop

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 10:32 AM

Cheapy was acting like there was no story at ALL in limbo however there was. Quite clearly you have gone into the forest to find your sister as shown by the very beginning intro sequence where you see her in the forest. Its not much of a story but i felt it was enough. I don't like wombat using the price of retail games that came out years ago as an argument against an arcade games price tag.

Also as someone who live in the UK I thought shops wouldnt even take your game if it doesn't have the box.

Edited by collipop, 23 July 2010 - 12:24 PM.


#12 Tobstar009

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 10:34 AM

Another great show guys. Macoroni and cheeze cold = :(... EA pick up ur game...

#13 Loonknight

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 10:55 AM

Decent show this week. I can't agree with you more CheapyD about how the older Star Wars movies still hold up while the others...well.... Also, looking forward to the Shipwreck's Dance Central video review.

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 11:25 AM

Yeah, I've heard the Inception theme on four or five podcasts this week so far. :lol:

With the whole price thing, I find it odd that Wombat constantly goes to the "I can buy all of these old games" argument. If you're going out for lobster, do you think of how many McDonald's hamburgers that you could buy for the same price? I just think it's strange to compare a new game to cheap three year old games that no one wants to play anymore.

At that point, why buy any new games at all? If you only had 60 dollars, your money is always best spent buying used games. Why buy Halo Reach when you can get Halo 3, ODST and Halo Wars for the same price? That's three times more Halo!


The difference between video games and Lobster Vs. McDonalds is similarity. Most video games released today are not so different from the games released ten years ago. You'll see the same basic design concepts in every game released for the last ten years. So buying a game that's only three years old isn't a major step down from a game released today. Just look at the reviews released lately, Singularity is like Bioshock, Darksiders is like Zelda, Dante's Inferno is like God of War, Bayonetta is like Devil May Cry, etc.

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#15 CheapyD

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 12:53 PM

Cheapy was acting like there was no story at ALL in limbo however there was. Quite clearly you have gone into the forest to find your sister as shown by the very beginning intro sequence where you see her in the forest.


And you know that's his sister how exactly?

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 12:55 PM

Great show guys as always

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 12:55 PM

I just listened to the part about Limbo. And there actually is a story to it, he's looking for his sister. And while that may not be very deep, I think a plumber looking for a princess that got taken by turtles isn't very deep either.

And you know that's his sister how exactly?

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 12:56 PM

Great show this week.....please shipwreck throw me a code for that beta!!!!

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 01:22 PM

The difference between video games and Lobster Vs. McDonalds is similarity. Most video games released today are not so different from the games released ten years ago. You'll see the same basic design concepts in every game released for the last ten years. So buying a game that's only three years old isn't a major step down from a game released today. Just look at the reviews released lately, Singularity is like Bioshock, Darksiders is like Zelda, Dante's Inferno is like God of War, Bayonetta is like Devil May Cry, etc.


To me, bargain bin games are the 1 dollar McDonald hamburgers of gaming. Either I've already played the games or they're the games no one would ever want to play anyway.

Or how about this - why watch Inception when you can probably rent Batman Begins, Prestige and the Dark Knight for the same price? You can watch three Nolan movies for the price of one.

Or why buy a 360 when you can buy a PS2 and probably 10-20 games for the same price? Why buy a new 50" TV when you can get several 20" TVs for the same price? Where do you draw the line on these kinds of comparisons?

If you are comparing a new game to another new game in terms of "price", then maybe I would accept that argument, even if I think arguing based on price is rather silly - Limbo is 1/4 the price of Singularity, so is Limbo 1/4 as "good" as Singularity? - at least that argument is more apples to apples.

I mean, I look for bargains just like everyone else who posts on CAG, but Wombat's price comparisons don't make any sense to me.

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 01:22 PM

Really wanting to play Limbo if only for the atmosphere. Not big on puzzle platformers so I may wait for a discount that they normally do for Arcade games.

And I'm shocked you thought the fight scenes in the Matrix were better Cheapy. To me they felt overly choreographed to the point where it looked terribly fake, and the way they moved and jumped around took me out of the movie. Just...didn't look all that good. Oh well, to each their own.

#21 Wolverine Ninja

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 01:59 PM

Great podcast. Thanks for the MoH beta code giveaway!

I preordered my copy at GameStop for the Xbox to get a Medal of Honor beta code and they didn't have any codes left so I haven't gotten a chance to play the beta despite meeting their requirements.

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#22 ChaoticClimax

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 02:52 PM

The best part about the destination arcade sorting is being able to sort XBLA games by single player vs. multiplayer titles, then local vs. online, then how many players and still yet Competitive vs. Co-op.

So you can have have your friends over and literally see what games are available that you can all play together or against each other. It is really cool for when you and your friends are bored and want something else to do.

That right there is worth the 30 second load time. Beyond that, if I know what I want to purchase, there is no way way I would boot up that program to do so. Also, perhaps I am just dumb, but I can't figure out how to look at the in game screen shots while I am in Destination Arcade.

...and Limbo is too much money. I understand the argument that it is art and art should cost more, but I disagree with it. $60 is the cap on retail games. $10 should be the cap on XBLA titles. I don't pay more for a movie ticket when a movie has better reviews or is considered art. I would pay the same price to see Pan's Labyrinth or Inception that I would to see Dude Where's My Car or Grown Ups.

As much as I love Castlevania: SOTN, it opened the door for bigger XBLA that now feel they can charge more thereby ruining the arcade-like feel of dropping $5-10 to screw around with a game because I am too lazy to get up and get a disk. $5-10 is reasonable (2-4 games for a 1600 point card), $15 is a carefully considered investment (1 1600 point card with change).
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Posted 23 July 2010 - 03:07 PM

Christopher Nolan's movies seem to be some of the only movies that i think about for days after i see them. Anybody have suggestions for a similar director/ writer?

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 03:17 PM

Why are they talking about Issac's face in Dead Space 2 like it's a surprise?



You see his face at the end of the original Dead Space. Spoilers if you still haven't finished it.

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 03:18 PM

Nice CAGCast. Haven't listened to one in while and forgot how great they are. Definitely want to play Limbo too and will stick with the demo for now.

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#26 GMM

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 03:35 PM

As usual, great cagcast!

#27 Oburi

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 03:40 PM

In Limbo your supposed to save some girl and there isn't a story and it's only 3 to 5 hours. What about Shadow of the Colossus? Your supposed to save a girl and if you haven't played Ico there isn't much of a story and its only about 5 to 8 hours long but it was 50$. It was worth it but isn't it about the same concept just with slightly different pricing? Am I wrong? In Limbo you solve puzzles but aren't the Colossus just like big puzzles I mean you have to figure out how each one has to be beaten.

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 03:50 PM

I just listened to the part about Limbo. And there actually is a story to it, he's looking for his sister. And while that may not be very deep, I think a plumber looking for a princess that got taken by turtles isn't very deep either.

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It says so in the game description


Took the words right out of my fingers. You have to read CheapyD!

Cheapy and company, there is a story, it's just left open for interpretation. Now that you know the boy is looking for his sister, I'm sure you now have some point of reference for the game's action. The ending is not unlike The Sopranos' ending. Also, minor spoiler to help you piece the ending together...

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#29 GMM

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 03:54 PM

Took the words right out of my fingers. You have to read CheapyD!

Cheapy and company, there is a story, it's just left open for interpretation. Now that you know the boy is looking for his sister, I'm sure you now have some point of reference for the game's action. The ending is not unlike The Sopranos' ending. Also, minor spoiler to help you piece the ending together...

Spoiler


Never noticed that, i just checked it and you are right :)

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 04:24 PM

Good show, guys! Wombat, you seem to be excited for Shattered Dimensions, are you glad they went back to all of the old voice actors from various Spidey shows for each of the Spider-men? And I'm with Ship, the one game I'm really looking forward to Kinect for is Dance Central, but other than that, I don't really care for it. I'll definitely be waiting for a pricedrop on Kinect.