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#1 DestroVega

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Posted 05 January 2011 - 01:41 AM

After reading the Bloomberg report last October about Verizon obtaining the iPhone possibly this month, I'm still reading stories about it's chance of landing with Verizon this month.

Figured we could use a thread with any credible evidence or rumors going around.

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#2 Ziv

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Posted 05 January 2011 - 01:52 AM

If it were coming this month, there would already be preorders set up. It might get announced this month, but wont be out for a few more at least.

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Posted 05 January 2011 - 03:15 AM

Have been hearing this for years....
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Posted 05 January 2011 - 07:20 AM

I've heard mid Febuary launch. I know it's coming out for sure. Around two weeks ago accessory preorders started to leak. Goods are in production now. That's the business I've worked in for the last ten years. I was actually surprised to hear it was coming before the LTE handset rollout. It wouldn't make sense to get a CDMA 3G iPhone with 4G LTE handsets right around the corner. The top end phones that are coming this spring are all going to be 1ghz dual core. Although I don't know anything spec wise on it so maybe Apple/Verizon will shock everyone and it will be 4G capable.

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Posted 05 January 2011 - 12:05 PM

The stock prices of both have been driven strongly higher in recent months. It looks like the worst kept secret on Wall St.
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Posted 05 January 2011 - 01:57 PM

Rumors have been going for a while now. The latest I have heard was the same as TC, which is mid Febuary.

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Posted 05 January 2011 - 02:50 PM

Honestly I don't think many verizon users care anymore about the Iphone coming to Verizon. They have already switched to android phones and seem to be happy with it. Knowing how Verizon likes to tinker/cripple their phones before release, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the Iphone's features are disabled/missing when it goes on sale for Verizon.

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Posted 05 January 2011 - 02:56 PM

Doesn't Verizon sell iPads now? I would think the iPhone coming is a foregone conclusion. Either way, I have 1.5 years left on my AT&T contract and I don't think it matters - I've been very happy with the service and coverage so far. I might switch down the road if it is easy enough but that's only because I have Verizon for my FIOS TV/internet and home phone and it would be good to consolidate.

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Posted 05 January 2011 - 03:52 PM

Not going to happen in Feb. No way, no how. Apple is still under exclusivity and unless Verizon shells out the money for timed exclusivity, it'll also go to T-mobile, which makes more sense considering the current technology used. The earliest timeframe I see is the usual annual iphone "update" and then release in Q3. This is assuming Apple has their LTE handset up and running right now, but for the iphone4, never going to happen. I hate how boygenius drums up hits with this crap.

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Posted 05 January 2011 - 04:20 PM

^Well you have one guy saying he is in the business and pre-orders are leaking for accessories. Part of the thread was to gather "rumors" because obviously nothing official is going to come out, but you are basically just stating an opinion based on nothing, really.

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Posted 05 January 2011 - 04:25 PM

Apple is notorious for not adopting brand new technologies immediately. Sure, they release innovative products, but they never adopt the latest and greatest technologies. Ergo, I doubt they release an LTE phone before 2012 (The "iPhone 6") on ATT or VZW. However, they already have CDMA iPhones in other parts of the world, so I doubt it would be too difficult to make a VZW compatible iPhone 4 or 5. The real problem is their ATT contract til 2012.

One thing is sure: Ziv is correct. They will announce it at some point, then it will be 3-6 months before it actually releases. Summer release (like they've done with ATT the last 4 years) is much more reasonable than the Jan/Feb release some people are talknig about.

However: It's all speculation. Until you get a REAL prototype or some kind of obvious leak (like with iphone 4 on gizmodo or the ipad leak in early 2010), there is no reason to find any rumor credible. Apple deals in secrecy, and you probably won't know what they're doing until right before they do it.

That said, I'll probably be getting the iPhone the day they release it on VZW.

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Posted 05 January 2011 - 04:54 PM

About that accessory part...do you know how many accessories there are for that damn thing? If the Iphone is coming to Verizon, do you think it will be the current model or something larger/thinner?

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Posted 05 January 2011 - 05:00 PM

^Well you have one guy saying he is in the business and pre-orders are leaking for accessories. Part of the thread was to gather "rumors" because obviously nothing official is going to come out, but you are basically just stating an opinion based on nothing, really.

Are rumors the new "facts" or something? Not surprising considering Fox News is #1 I suppose. :roll:

So you'd rather believe someone that tells you what you want to hear as opposed to the entire lack of coverage or news from a few of the more reputable mobile news sites. Rumors about a Verizon iphone have been around since the the 2G and if you want to go with those "leaks" as "evidence," then the T-mobile iphone will most certainly be announced as well because they're also selling iphone cables.:bouncy:

Please tell me how your "speculation" is more valid than my "speculation." It's not like my "opinion" follows any release trends or lack of news amirite.:drool:

I seriously think you should re-read what's been posted on this thread.

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Posted 05 January 2011 - 05:07 PM

Apple is notorious for not adopting brand new technologies immediately. Sure, they release innovative products, but they never adopt the latest and greatest technologies. Ergo, I doubt they release an LTE phone before 2012 (The "iPhone 6") on ATT or VZW. However, they already have CDMA iPhones in other parts of the world, so I doubt it would be too difficult to make a VZW compatible iPhone 4 or 5. The real problem is their ATT contract til 2012.

Technically speaking, yes. There are "CDMA" phones in other parts of the world. Heck, they're even on this side of the hemisphere on ATT, but Verizon/Sprint CDMA/EVDO is different from WCDMA/HSDPA/HSUPA/HSPA+/UTMS. They're similar, but incompatible with eachother.

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Posted 05 January 2011 - 05:21 PM

Are rumors the new "facts" or something? Not surprising considering Fox News is #1 I suppose. :roll:

So you'd rather believe someone that tells you what you want to hear as opposed to the entire lack of coverage or news from a few of the more reputable mobile news sites. Rumors about a Verizon iphone have been around since the the 2G and if you want to go with those "leaks" as "evidence," then the T-mobile iphone will most certainly be announced as well because they're also selling iphone cables.:bouncy:

Please tell me how your "speculation" is more valid than my "speculation." It's not like my "opinion" follows any release trends or lack of news amirite.:drool:

I seriously think you should re-read what's been posted on this thread.


I've read all of it, thanks.

My point was, you stated your opinion but definitively said there is no way it's going to happen.

One guy in the intdustry above says based on what he sees going on in his industry, it's definitely coming.

Bloomberg reported in October they had sources saying Apple was working on the Verizon version.

So again, why is your opinion more meaningful than those two statements?

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Posted 05 January 2011 - 05:31 PM

The rumors definitely seem a lot more solid this time for sure. I'd be surprised if it didn't' come out sometime this year.

I don't really care much as I still don't think I can bring myself to pay for a data plan when I spend most of my time near a laptop or desktop anyway.

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Posted 05 January 2011 - 05:34 PM

Technically speaking, yes. There are "CDMA" phones in other parts of the world. Heck, they're even on this side of the hemisphere on ATT, but Verizon/Sprint CDMA/EVDO is different from WCDMA/HSDPA/HSUPA/HSPA+/UTMS. They're similar, but incompatible with eachother.


I figured that may be the case. Either way, Apple has made the effort to insert different cell phone technologies into the iPhone, so I guess it's possible for VZW too. Although I really doubt we'll see it this year.

If I had to wager, I'm guessing VZW gets the iPhone when the LTE version comes out (I'm betting simultaneously) for ATT and VZW, which I think will be Summer 2012. Who knows...

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Posted 05 January 2011 - 05:47 PM

I've read all of it, thanks.

My point was, you stated your opinion but definitively said there is no way it's going to happen.

One guy in the intdustry above says based on what he sees going on in his industry, it's definitely coming.

Bloomberg reported in October they had sources saying Apple was working on the Verizon version.

So again, why is your opinion more meaningful than those two statements?

Here are 4 sources for your 2.

http://tech.fortune....erizon-in-2009/

http://www.roughlydr...ing-to-verizon/

http://www.businessw...0427_328264.htm

http://www.zdnet.com...today-but/17030

Gsmarena, Mobile-Review, Engadget, Howardforums...absolutely nothing.

Previous 4 models were announced and then released in the summer.

You're equating rumors with evidence.

Rumor: Bloomberg reported that they have inside sources.
Rumor: Some random guy on CAG says he has preorders for accessories.

Fact: Rumors about a Verizon iphone have been around since it's initial release in 07.
Fact: All iphone iterations have been released in the summer.

The iphone 4 will never be released in it's current model for Verizon. iphone 4.5, maybe, but also unlikely. iphone 5, now we're talking more realisically.

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Posted 05 January 2011 - 05:53 PM

^ You link four sources from April of 2009???

LOL

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Posted 05 January 2011 - 06:00 PM

So far I've seen listings for around 20 phone specific products from 3 different manufacturers with ETA's from 1/28-4/11. These are just dates for the accessories which can and probably will change once the phone is closer to release. The accessories don't show compatabilty with current iPhone models, but that doesn't mean it's going to be a different size. It could mean something as simple as a slight change in side button layout. The only other thing I've noticed is in the last couple days a bunch of manufacturers have started clearing out iPhone4 specific stuff. That's kind of odd.

About that accessory part...do you know how many accessories there are for that damn thing? If the Iphone is coming to Verizon, do you think it will be the current model or something larger/thinner?



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Posted 05 January 2011 - 06:19 PM

^ You link four sources from April of 2009???

LOL

come on man.

Right, because rumors haven't been circulating since the iphone was released. Which is the reason why I dug up old reports. :roll:

I'm sure the fact that there were several rumors last year as well from Bloomberg and WSJ are still fresh in our brains.

The Xperia X10 will get a newer version of Android before the iphone 4 goes to Verizon. If you get this joke without looking it up, you'll know where I'm coming from.

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Posted 05 January 2011 - 06:22 PM

There's nothing in Verizon's billing system that indicates new iPhone specific features. When The Android stuff was rolling out said system was suddenly overloaded with another 30 or so features. Until I see those features, I KNOW for a fact that iPhone isn't anywhere near being released.

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Posted 05 January 2011 - 08:38 PM

Doesn't Verizon sell iPads now? I would think the iPhone coming is a foregone conclusion. Either way, I have 1.5 years left on my AT&T contract and I don't think it matters - I've been very happy with the service and coverage so far. I might switch down the road if it is easy enough but that's only because I have Verizon for my FIOS TV/internet and home phone and it would be good to consolidate.


Notice the part about Verizon currently selling iPads already, the iPhone is just a matter of time, especially with the 4G coming.
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Posted 05 January 2011 - 08:56 PM

^ You would hope the iPad and iPod would go hand-in-hand, but it doesn't necessarily

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 04:42 PM

their keynote starts in about 20 minutes, you can stream live by registering here and clicking "view webcast" on the next page after that. there's no e-mail confirmation or anything, so feel free to enter a fake email address so you can watch live.

i think if it's coming out this year, they'll announce it here.

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 04:55 PM

the iPad deal is a licensing agreement that is a manuever on VZW's part to move their little hotspot wireless modems.
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Posted 06 January 2011 - 08:43 PM

Big surprise. No iphone4 for Verizon announcement.

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 08:47 PM

Big surprise. No iphone4 for Verizon announcement.


Agreed. iPhone 4 on Verizon is vaporware.



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Posted 06 January 2011 - 08:49 PM

Notice the part about Verizon currently selling iPads already, the iPhone is just a matter of time, especially with the 4G coming.

You know who else sells iPads? Target.

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Posted 06 January 2011 - 09:48 PM

I saw the CEO or some big shit on CNBC today at the CES show and they he wouldn't speak to the gal interviewing him about the iPhone but was talking about their new upgraded network which sounds really really good he was sly and said with the new network they are rolling out EVERYONE is gonna want to be a part of our network.

Everyone I know on Verizon loves the service and i'm sure their plans would beat ATT as about anything would... I pay $87 a month AFTER a 15% corporate partner discount for unlimited data and txt and the smallest minutes package: 450 anytime minutes and 5000 night/weekends + i'm sitting on 4800 rollover minutes lol. I love my 4 and guess i'll have to skip the 4S or whatever this years release will be to swap services next year when my plan expires. Alot of people talk shit about them charging you $200 or $300 for the new phon each year but you can easily make money selling your old phone on Ebay, i've done it every year. Just sucks that they hit you with a 2 year contract each time.