iOS 5 and iCloud Discussion
Posted 01 June 2011 - 03:23 AM
I'm interested to see what iOS 5 brings. I really wish they'd separate the iPhone and iPad OS personally, though I doubt they will any time soon. A tablet, IMO, needs a more robust OS than a smartphone does. But that aside, I'm still interested to see what updates will be useful for the iPad.
I'm also interested well as to see what all iCloud can do, whether it's totally free etc. I don't care much about streaming music on the cloud etc., but I use Dropbox a lot so I'm interested in cloud storage in general. Both for getting stuff on and off my iPad and getting files between my work PC and home PC--not sure how functional I should expect iCloud to be for the latter....
They're also showing a new OS X update for those of you on Macs.
Posted 01 June 2011 - 02:15 PM
I'm hoping for, among other things, improvements to Game Center. At the very least, increased (preferably infinite) leaderboards per-game. Hopefully other stuff like messaging.
I'm also hoping they improve notifications, just like everybody else is hoping. And a surprise or two. Etc.
Posted 01 June 2011 - 03:52 PM
Notifications do need improved, it's one thing that has me leaning strongly toward Android if I get a smartphone. iPad I just turned off notifications as they annoyed me popping up when I was reading (which is the main thing I do on my iPad), but a good notification system is a must on a phone.
Widgets is something else I'd like to see added--and another thing that has me leaning Android for a phone currently. I'd rather the lock screen be useful and be able to show weather, whether I have no e-mails etc.
The stuff I really want on the iPad like a file system, way to attach multiple files to one e-mail, USB drive support etc. I know isn't coming in iOS5, and honestly probably never, so I don't have any expectations for any major changes.
Posted 03 June 2011 - 04:59 AM
I also doubt you will see any separation in the iPhone and iPad os anytime soon, if ever. The iPad and iPhones are incredible successes, apple has no reason to mess with a good thing. I would guess a huge number of iPad users also have an iPhone, and most those users probably like that the devices use the same os, especially because it allows for universal apps.
Posted 04 June 2011 - 06:23 PM
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Posted 06 June 2011 - 06:09 PM
I eat my words from a week ago lol
Posted 06 June 2011 - 06:40 PM
I also like that they are going to have a split keyboard - that's sorely needed when using an iPad landscape.
Other tweaks like volume up acting as shutter when the camera app is up, that's a nice addition, no doubt borrowed from a number of jailbreak hacks!
iCloud ... the details are still developing, but it sounds like that's got potential. Calendar, mail, and contact sync will be free - no more paid MobileMe for that, so that's obviously good. I presume that cloud document storage will not, but as yet not certain.
EDIT: actually iCloud is all free. You get 5 GB of storage for Mail (and other stuff???), while photos and iTunes purchased music doesn't count toward that. The photos part of iCloud sounds pretty nice. The email (and all of iCloud) is ad-free. Pretty nice, that, given that it's free. Well, of course I'm sure their hope is that it pushes you toward buying from iTunes instead of other sources, etc.
EDIT2: iTunes Match is $24.99 per year. The idea is it will scan your iTunes library and match any songs you've ripped or otherwise acquired (Amazon music downloads or whatever) and match it with iTunes songs and add them to iCloud as fast as they are matched, in 256 kbps AAC format. If they are available in iTunes then they are just there, and if there's any it doesn't have, they get uploaded. End result is it doesn't take long to get your entire library into the cloud. It's a flat $24.99 per year and doesn't count toward the storage limit! Well, I'm not sure if songs that *don't* match would count toward the 5 GB or not. Remains to be seen. Either way that's pretty awesome. I have probably 100 GB of music, mostly not from iTunes, so being able to store that in the cloud for $25 a year really isn't bad at all. Especially given that I had already been paying for MobileMe about about $75 a year, I'll be paying a lot less and get something more useful!
Edited by crunchewy, 06 June 2011 - 07:18 PM.
Posted 06 June 2011 - 07:12 PM
Posted 06 June 2011 - 07:27 PM
It's unclear to me, but I think they are saying that iCloud will be coming to 4.3, so we'll get that before 5.0 is out. However maybe they just mean it works for developers in beta form, in preparation for iOS 5. I'm not sure.
Posted 07 June 2011 - 02:29 AM
Posted 07 June 2011 - 02:38 AM
The rest I don't care about since I only have an iPad and have notifications turned off. The cloud stuff sounds ok, but nothing to get me to switch from Dropbox since most of my syncing is PC to PC (office and home). Cloud music I don't care about since I have all my mp3s everywhere I listen to music.
But definitely some useful updates for iphone users and people who listen to music a lot more than I do.
Edited by dmaul1114, 07 June 2011 - 10:37 AM.
Posted 07 June 2011 - 02:40 AM
Posted 07 June 2011 - 01:48 PM
EDIT: for iPod touch and wifi-only iPad users (as well as 3G users who have more limited data), downloading is undoubtedly the better solution, though. Also it would certainly reduce network bandwidth usage. Indeed, maybe that's why there's no streaming - maybe the cell providers didn't want it. I don't know.
Otherwise I'm really happy with everything that's been announced.
Also, I thought it was pretty amazing that Apple has tens of millions more registered Game Center users then Microsoft has Xbox Live users, and that in only 9 months versus 9 years or some such comparison. I'm forgetting the numbers, but it's something like 90 million versus 50 million. Something like that. Pretty astounding. I hope that has encouraged them to at least add more leaderboards per title, which isn't something they announced, but maybe it will be there. Also, I really wanted quick profile switching on devices (i.e. without typing in a password - like the Xbox).
Edited by crunchewy, 07 June 2011 - 01:58 PM.
Posted 07 June 2011 - 02:27 PM
About fucking time Apple. Two things I hated was getting a notification from certain apps and having it automatically take me to the fucking app. That and how I have to plug my iPod to my computer to download shit.
Question though. Does anyone know if iOS 5 will allow wireless sync of podcasts or at least automatic downloading to the device? One of my biggest annoyances with iOS is I subscribe to a podcast and whenever a new episode comes out, I have to cable sync it to just get the episode on my iPod. I would love a way for them to auto download right to my device.
Posted 07 June 2011 - 03:05 PM
So it seems that iCloud may not actually support streaming of music, only downloading to devices, from what I've read.
Wow...no streaming??? You have to be kidding me. For me, that totally defeats the purpose of cloud on portable devices. An iphone and ipad have pretty limited storage capacity so streaming opens up a ton of space. Without the future, its basically just a glorified back up system. Amazon's cloud lets you stream from any device, and also lets you put any content you want on there including movies. I cannot believe there is no streaming. Is that really the case? Maybe it's some how a miscommunication.
this article says no streaming:
Posted 07 June 2011 - 03:18 PM
Posted 07 June 2011 - 03:49 PM
And yes, the lack of iCloud music streaming definitely makes iTunes Match seem a bit odd. I have to presume that streaming was supposed to be in there, but for some reason isn't. I wonder if it wasn't a licensing issue or something of that sort? Hopefully that's what it is and they'll add streaming later, but in the mean time I'll undoubtedly skip iTunes Match because it seems a bit pointless without that. I guess it does act as a backup service. And you can load your tracks from anywhere without needing to be near your computer to do it. I think it's useful, but would be a lot better with streaming.
Posted 07 June 2011 - 03:53 PM
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Posted 08 June 2011 - 03:24 PM
No option for faster Internet where your at? If so, I feel for you as my parents still don't have broadband available where their at...not even slow dsl etc. Didn't have broadband myself until I was 27 aside from living in dorms my freshmen year of college, so now I don't think I could ever move somewhere I couldn't get fast Internet since I was deprived for so long!
Posted 09 June 2011 - 03:35 PM
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