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#1 joeboosauce

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 04:36 PM

I saw the burglar thread and thought this warranted a post. WHO DA SHAF-FU thinks we live in a post-racial society??? Blows my mind. And I wonder WHY the white guy wasn't arrested... When was the last time you heard of a white guy shot for holding skittles and an iced-tea? This is equality in America.


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#2 Soodmeg

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 04:56 PM

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#3 soulvengeance

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 05:00 PM

No news link? No real insight, as a black man I am ashamed by this post. You can't just throw shit like this out without the proper backing. This I why racial topics get glossed over so much because people don't put actually effort into topic.

Jesus nothing but a fuckig YouTube video?


He referenced the burglar thread which has the link in it, but here's the link for people who aren't following that thread:

http://news.yahoo.co...-044537742.html
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Posted 16 March 2012 - 05:21 PM

no news link? No real insight, as a black man i am ashamed by this post. You can't just throw shit like this out without the proper backing. This i why racial topics get glossed over so much because people don't put actually effort into topic.

Jesus nothing but a fuckig youtube video?

LOLZ

http://news.yahoo.co...-044537742.html

zimmerman was previously arrested for assault on an officer: http://www.wftv.com/...ood-has-/nlpgl/

just so people don't have to go fishing for facts:
- zimmerman saw martin walking on the street and called 911(it's assumed that zimmerman was in his car because he was stalking martin in it)
- 911 told zimmerman to stay put and wait for the cops
- zimmerman is quoted as saying "those assholes always get away" on the 911 recording
- a fight occurs
- within 2 minutes of the 911 call, martin was shot in the chest
- after the shot, 6 neighbors called 911 to report a fight and shooting


More Links:
http://www.huffingto..._n_1343223.html
http://gma.yahoo.com...--abc-news.html

There are reports of witness coercion as well. A few witnesses say that they believe it was Martin that was screaming for help and not Zimmerman. Zimmerman has also been reported as being "over-zealous" in his duties as captian of the neighborhood watch.

All this is info is found with a simple google search.

I've been following this story keenly and if the local authorites don't do anything, I hope the feds jump in. There's a lot of fishy bullshit going on.

#5 joeboosauce

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 07:43 PM

No news link? No real insight, as a black man I am ashamed by this post. You can't just throw shit like this out without the proper backing. This I why racial topics get glossed over so much because people don't put actually effort into topic.

Jesus nothing but a fuckig YouTube video?


REALLY??!??!? You think THAT'S why racial topics "get glossed over"? If you are ashamed by this post you need to look in the mirror and tell yourself that you are a worthy human being. :bouncy:

When I decide to submit the above video to an academic journal, I'll make sure to submit a works cited list... and include a link to a news article.
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#6 Soodmeg

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 07:45 PM

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#7 IRHari

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 07:48 PM

I saw the burglar thread and thought this warranted a post. WHO DA SHAF-FU thinks we live in a post-racial society??? Blows my mind. And I wonder WHY the white guy wasn't arrested... When was the last time you heard of a white guy shot for holding skittles and an iced-tea? This is equality in America.


I thought racism was over because Obama was elected.

#8 joeboosauce

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 07:53 PM

I knew all of that information already, my point was that it gets lost when you just run into a room, shout something and then leave. If you are going to post a topic, post the the topic. The "I'm outrage...check this video out" is kinda lame.

What is the bar for sufficient research? Do you want to set that bar? Should I use the same standard. Have you looked at the other posts in this forum? Care to go through and make sure they meet your high standards? You want APA or MLA citation? Point being is anyone can have their own arbitrary standards. There are no standards. And to say that citations are the reason people ignore legitimate race problems in this country is off the mark. OK, if you want to say something to this issue, you can. If not, I won't be the CAG vs mode forum standards police.
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#9 joeboosauce

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 07:54 PM

I thought racism was over because Obama was elected.


WHAT?!?!? No quote? Haha. Sorry I'll leave beating dead horses to soulvengence...
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#10 Soodmeg

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 08:00 PM

What is the bar for sufficient research? Do you want to set that bar? Should I use the same standard. Have you looked at the other posts in this forum? Care to go through and make sure they meet your high standards? You want APA or MLA citation? Point being is anyone can have their own arbitrary standards. There are no standards. And to say that citations are the reason people ignore legitimate race problems in this country is off the mark. OK, if you want to say something to this issue, you can. If not, I won't be the CAG vs mode forum standards police.


If its not 3 paragraphs double spaced than you shouldnt post it.


Naw but seriously, I guess I dont get why people post threads that contain very little to no information or just a post to a video. If you are gonna talk about the subject...talk about the subject, it seems lazy otherwise.


Anyway, now that DD is here, I look forward to insightful commentary.

#11 UncleBob

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 08:07 PM

I thought racism was over because Obama was elected.


Racism will never be over as long as there are white people.
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Posted 16 March 2012 - 08:26 PM

Racism will never be over as long as there are stupid people.


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#13 dohdough

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 08:30 PM

Racism will never be over as long as there are white people.

Yeah, white people have it so hard. It's like they're the only group that's allowed to be discriminated against!:roll:

#14 Soodmeg

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 08:32 PM

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#15 UncleBob

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 08:37 PM

Yeah, white people have it so hard. It's like they're the only group that's allowed to be discriminated against!:roll:


Oh, no, DD - you've shown me the light. Only white people can be racists. Unless you're being racist for white people.
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Posted 16 March 2012 - 08:56 PM

A little bit more info on this is that Zimmerman has lived somewhere else since the shooting and no one seems to know where he is.

Very strange that you can shoot someone and then leave your house for an extended period of time.

Zimmerman is also a criminal justice major in college.


Yeah, the oddest thing of all is how one can simply say it was self defense and not be brought in for questioning. If that was the case wouldnt every murder be free for a month before being taken in?

This is a good example of how racism operates systemically in the US. It's not just about oppression, but how special privileges are given to white people. Can anyone honestly say that if it was a black man that was the shooter that they wouldn't be immediately arrested if it was a white teenager? Or how do we explain that Zimmerman is given the benefit of all the doubt in the world, yet Martin is being labeled as the aggressor(after being stalked and racially profiled) when Martin is the one that mostlikely acted in self-defense? Or what if Martin got the gun away from Zimmerman and killed him?

Oh, no, DD - you've shown me the light. Only white people can be racists. Unless you're being racist for white people.

Yeah, white is the new black. Go Fuck yourself.

#17 UncleBob

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 09:04 PM

DD - I'm curious - can you name a single white person of any notoriety that you don't believe to be racist in some fashion (including the idea that a white person taking advantage of years of black oppression is racist)?
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#18 dohdough

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 09:20 PM

DD - I'm curious - can you name a single white person of any notoriety that you don't believe to be racist in some fashion (including the idea that a white person taking advantage of years of black oppression is racist)?

Why don't YOU name some?

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 09:38 PM

Take with a grain of salt since it's a Yahoo comment, but saw this posted

" This is not the real story. George called 911 to report a suspicious person. As he got off the phone the kid attacked him and started beating the crap out of him and slamming his head against the walkway. All the while saying "you're gunna die tonight motherfxxxxx" George was screaming help when someone in a nearby apartment called 911 again. George's shirt came up while the kid was beating him, revealing the gun that he is licensed to carry. The kid went for the gun and they struggled for it, George ended up shooting the kid and saving his own life. All these people on yahoo saying that he should be in jail when they don't even know what happened. George is the brother-in-law of one of our good family friends, works with my parents, and is one of the nicest most gentle people you will ever meet. He's completely devastated that this happened and has barely been functional from the guilt. No one shoots someone for no reason, and especially not George. And they need to stop pulling the race card, George is hispanic, not white."


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Posted 16 March 2012 - 09:47 PM

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#21 dohdough

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 10:03 PM

Take with a grain of salt since it's a Yahoo comment, but saw this posted

" This is not the real story. George called 911 to report a suspicious person. As he got off the phone the kid attacked him and started beating the crap out of him and slamming his head against the walkway. All the while saying "you're gunna die tonight motherfxxxxx" George was screaming help when someone in a nearby apartment called 911 again. George's shirt came up while the kid was beating him, revealing the gun that he is licensed to carry. The kid went for the gun and they struggled for it, George ended up shooting the kid and saving his own life. All these people on yahoo saying that he should be in jail when they don't even know what happened. George is the brother-in-law of one of our good family friends, works with my parents, and is one of the nicest most gentle people you will ever meet. He's completely devastated that this happened and has barely been functional from the guilt. No one shoots someone for no reason, and especially not George. And they need to stop pulling the race card, George is hispanic, not white."

Yeah, this was spammed in quite a few places. Which begs the question of why Zimmerman got out of the car in the first place.

That as to be the worst right up in the world. In fact you should delete has I would assume that it's clearly made up. If he was slamming his head into the ground both blood and akin would be present I the ground. Witness would have reported something to that extent (they haven't said too much but It was definitively on along the lines of he was being attacked for several minutes) plus a 17 year old kid getting skittles and a iced was apparently so full of rage that he was beating a man right outside his house?

Not to mention how did this 100 pound kid pull him out of the car? Apparently this is the strongest kid in the world.

All reports so far say that two minutes passed between Zimmerman getting off the phone with non-emergency 911 and Martin being shot. And you're right, all black kids have superhuman strength when wearing hoodies, which also makes them violent and gives them the teleportational powers of Nightcrawler(cause they're dark *hurr*) and that's how Martin got Zimmerman out of the car. Imminent danger and self-defense established.

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#22 Soodmeg

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 10:08 PM

Really quick my post was a jab at whoever created that comment by for who posted it here. Also, the auto correct on my iPhone is brutal..I am new to te iPhone I just can't get used this on screen keyboard.

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 10:13 PM

Really quick my post was a jab at whoever created that comment by for who posted it here. Also, the auto correct on my iPhone is brutal..I am new to te iPhone I just can't get used this on screen keyboard.

Hahaha...yeah, that's why I turn auto-correct off on my phone and tablet. I'm on android, so it's less intrusive, but still a pain in the ass.

My post was tongue-in-cheek as well.

#24 UncleBob

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 04:35 AM

Why don't YOU name some?


Oddly enough, this is probably out about only reply you could have given that didn't reveal the truth.

Gated community's are filled with so many bigots. It doesn't really matter if he's Hispanic (can't a minority be racist against another minority?),


A minority being racist against another minority is simply perpetuating White Racism.
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 04:57 AM

Yeah, this was spammed in quite a few places. Which begs the question of why Zimmerman got out of the car in the first place.


All reports so far say that two minutes passed between Zimmerman getting off the phone with non-emergency 911 and Martin being shot. And you're right, all black kids have superhuman strength when wearing hoodies, which also makes them violent and gives them the teleportational powers of Nightcrawler(cause they're dark *hurr*) and that's how Martin got Zimmerman out of the car. Imminent danger and self-defense established.

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^ and what if that was the truth?

I haven't followed this story much since it was originally posted but where are the updates? Has he (zimmerman) been arrested? Has his story been reported?

Everyone was so quick to jump the gun and point Mr. Zimmerman as a racist and race being a motive for this killing. And the media was quick to point out that this saint of a boy just wanted to go down the street and buy ice tea and skittles...

obviously there is some sort of disconnect and the entire story isn't being reported

I can't imagine any scenario where the shooting was justified but I don't think it is as simple as Mr. Zimmerman shot this kid because he was a suspicious looking african american in a hoodie....


....but it makes a better story

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 05:03 AM

^ and what if that was the truth?

I haven't followed this story much since it was originally posted but where are the updates? Has he (zimmerman) been arrested? Has his story been reported?

Everyone was so quick to jump the gun and point Mr. Zimmerman as a racist and race being a motive for this killing. And the media was quick to point out that this saint of a boy just wanted to go down the street and buy ice tea and skittles...

obviously there is some sort of disconnect and the entire story isn't being reported

I can't imagine any scenario where the shooting was justified but I don't think it is as simple as Mr. Zimmerman shot this kid because he was a suspicious looking african american in a hoodie....


....but it makes a better story


Well, if that's what it is, why not just release the 911 call? We could have all this cleared up in a jiffy.
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#27 dohdough

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 05:15 AM

Oddly enough, this is probably out about only reply you could have given that didn't reveal the truth.

What truth? That whites benefit more systemically than non-white people strictly because they're white? That those that don't use their unearned systemic advantages and privilege to create a more equitable system perpetuate an oppressive system biased against non-whites? So unless you want to bump and rehash a several month old thread, how about you get back to naming someone.


A minority being racist against another minority is simply perpetuating White Racism.

It's white SUPREMACY, to be more precise.

#28 UncleBob

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 05:33 AM

how about you get back to naming someone.


I believe I asked you first, kind sir.
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#29 dohdough

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 05:34 AM

^ and what if that was the truth?

I haven't followed this story much since it was originally posted but where are the updates? Has he (zimmerman) been arrested? Has his story been reported?

Everyone was so quick to jump the gun and point Mr. Zimmerman as a racist and race being a motive for this killing. And the media was quick to point out that this saint of a boy just wanted to go down the street and buy ice tea and skittles...

obviously there is some sort of disconnect and the entire story isn't being reported

I can't imagine any scenario where the shooting was justified but I don't think it is as simple as Mr. Zimmerman shot this kid because he was a suspicious looking african american in a hoodie....


....but it makes a better story

You're really stretching it here. So what you're saying here is that Martin was so hopped up on iced tea that he pulled a full grown man that is 100 pounds heavier than him, out of a car, either by ripping the door off its hinge, through the window, and/or teleporting him out of it with his mutant negro powers, and then proceeded to go Sam Jackson on Zimmerman? Is this accurate?

Or maybe you should just read some articles on the story instead of being your usual ignorant self and have an informed opinion for once.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 05:37 AM

I believe I asked you first, kind sir.


I already did, dumbshit. Did you read the post?

I'm not going to argue semantics with you.