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#1 snakeinthegrass

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 08:00 PM

Operation Rainfall is raising money to hopefully localize Pandora's Tower in the US as they have managed with Xenoblade and Last Story. A $10 donation nets you a collectors edition box to keep the three games in - HMV and some other UK retailers sold these as a limited edition preorder and they're fetching nice sums on eBay so it's not a bad deal. Plus there's the chance PT will be localized and if there's one thing that the Wii needs it's more first class third party titles.

Anyway long story short, Operation Rainfall collectors edition box for $10

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#2 SMBScooby

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 08:44 PM

Sounds kind of shady. If they don't get enough donation your out $10. At least through Kickstarter if not enought money is raised you get your money back.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 08:54 PM

Sounds kind of shady. If they don't get enough donation your out $10. At least through Kickstarter if not enought money is raised you get your money back.


Meh. It's a donation. By definition, you shouldn't really be expecting to get it back either way.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 09:04 PM

I like the idea but I'm not sure about donating. They seem to suggest that they had some financial involvement in the current titles targeted with Op. Rainfall being localized in North America. While I'm sure the movement itself had an effect that resulted both Xenoblade and The Last Story coming over I don't think they submitted funds to make that happen.

Not only that, but Xenoblade has seen release and now The Last Story is heading up in June. I'll wait a bit and see if the trifecta is completed with a Pandora's Tower announcement. Seems likely especially since they [Nintendo/XSeed] aren't really having to localize the games for our market, they're keeping things like the voice overs as they were in the European versions so a straight up release of Pandora's Tower I'm expecting as well.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 09:06 PM

Donated.


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Posted 20 April 2012 - 09:22 PM

I can't help but think that this is a bad idea. A group of people who are in no way affiliated with any developers or publishers really have no say in whether or not a game gets localized no matter how much money they raise.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 09:39 PM

Just to clarify, the box you will get is NOT the same one HMV distributed - ie, it's not an official box. From the OR page:

The case is made of high quality glossy paperboard, featuring a black background with the Operation Rainfall raindrop logo and the words “The Operation Rainfall Collection” embossed on the sides.


I just wanted to point this out, after I read the OP I was under the impression you would get the same box offered in the UK.
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Posted 20 April 2012 - 09:41 PM

In for one.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 09:45 PM

I'm in.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 10:29 PM

So they are mailing the games to the publishers like they don't have access to them? I dont understand and want no part in this. I'll just pick up my preordered Last Story the day it comes out like I did Xeno. I think the better idea would be to do the same of what was done in the past and have the company kick start it for localizing.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 10:53 PM

I read their page twice and I still don't get how it works. Do you get a case regardless of what happens, or only if it reaches $600 OR only if the game is picked up by a publisher?

This whole thing seems very iffy. I'm still wary of this kickstarter craze but at the very least with KS you know it's going straight to the project... this is going to a glorified letter-writing committee who want to hype a project.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 11:24 PM

So they are mailing the games to the publishers like they don't have access to them? I dont understand and want no part in this. I'll just pick up my preordered Last Story the day it comes out like I did Xeno. I think the better idea would be to do the same of what was done in the past and have the company kick start it for localizing.


It doesn't even need to be localized. NoE already did that. It just needs to be published.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 11:38 PM

Sorry, but this is ridiculous. While I agree that the attention they brought to the games probably helped in some small way to convince Nintendo, Gamestop and Xseed to make the decision to publish two of the three here, the game media played a huge role as well in making consumers aware of the games and Operation Rainfall. The fact that Americans ordered so many copies of the first game from Europe was probably more than enough evidence for Gamestop to smell potential financial success with publishing the game in coordination with Nintendo. In fact, Nintendo probably delayed the release in response to the pressure from Operation Rainfall as Japanese business practices would have dictated that Nintendo couldn't cave in to pressure and had to wait until Operation Rainfall essentially backed down so they could save face.

I have a real issue with Operation Rainfall using trademarks they don't own to publish an unlicensed case and asking people to support their unnecessary advocacy effort. Does anyone really believe that the publishers they are targeting are not aware of the game and will be persuaded by a package from a small group of fans? The only information these companies are interested in is how many copies of the first two have sold and what the estimated sales of the third will be. This is just a ridiculous effort and I can't believe anyone is rushing to hand over money for this.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 11:45 PM

$10 gets you a box that holds three games, one of which might not even come out? That's funny. So if Pandora's Tower doesn't get a release, you have a box with a space missing, featuring the logo of a game that is not inside. I know, it's mostly a token prize of appreciation, but I still find it humorous.

So their goal is $600? That shouldn't be too difficult. I wish they had some indication of how much they've raised at any given moment. Transparency is important when it comes to these sorts of things.

#15 renique46

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 11:48 PM

Sorry, but this is ridiculous. While I agree that the attention they brought to the games probably helped in some small way to convince Nintendo, Gamestop and Xseed to make the decision to publish two of the three here, the game media played a huge role as well in making consumers aware of the games and Operation Rainfall. The fact that Americans ordered so many copies of the first game from Europe was probably more than enough evidence for Gamestop to smell potential financial success with publishing the game in coordination with Nintendo. In fact, Nintendo probably delayed the release in response to the pressure from Operation Rainfall as Japanese business practices would have dictated that Nintendo couldn't cave in to pressure and had to wait until Operation Rainfall essentially backed down so they could save face.

I have a real issue with Operation Rainfall using trademarks they don't own to publish an unlicensed case and asking people to support their unnecessary advocacy effort. Does anyone really believe that the publishers they are targeting are not aware of the game and will be persuaded by a package from a small group of fans? The only information these companies are interested in is how many copies of the first two have sold and what the estimated sales of the third will be. This is just a ridiculous effort and I can't believe anyone is rushing to hand over money for this.


Spot on. Contrary to what OpR wants to think, they had little to nothing at all to do with 2 of those games being released here.

#16 anotherpoorgamer

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 11:57 PM

I'd buy this if it was available at local retailers like Gamestop or Best Buy. Kind of like as a pre-order bonus. I'd put $10 down to reserve Pandora's Tower and/or as an upgrade / collector's edition of Last Story.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 12:03 AM

How can their box use official logos that they don't own? Also doesn't sound like any of the money will go to the publisher.


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Posted 21 April 2012 - 12:18 AM

I will donate if refunds are given in the event this does fail.


I'm sure Pandora will come out sometime this year here. If the game comes out later than expected, I hope these guys still ship the boxes because there will be a huge uproar.

it really does not make any sense why these people need to send a PAL copy to publishers. I would think there are dev copies that can be sent from the Japanese/European/etc branches to the American hqs so all the legal garbage credits can be added.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 12:28 AM

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 12:56 AM

Donated. At worst I'll be out $10, at best I'll have a very limited, very nice collectors item.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 12:59 AM

Wow this is disgusting, some morons trying to capitalize on the good graces of Nintendo to bring over the first two, which were only brought over in the first place because they did so well in Europe. Screw that, what on Earth would this money be put towards? I think we can all guess. Damn thing screams SCAM from a mile away.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 01:39 AM

Uh... what? They don't own the rights to any of this, and there's no way to track how they're using the funds. Cool concept, but incredibly sketchy.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 04:39 AM

Just to clarify, the box you will get is NOT the same one HMV distributed - ie, it's not an official box. From the OR page:



I just wanted to point this out, after I read the OP I was under the impression you would get the same box offered in the UK.

Thanks for pointing that out. I wish it were an actual case & not a cardboard sleeve. I might donate because of the initiative the OR headed up, and I believe they did cause Ninty to think twice when they had "No current plans to bring these titles to America."

#24 omyard

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 04:55 AM

Yeah... This sounds more like a scam and not a deal. I'm not sure why anyone would donate to this cause. You're getting a fan made box that isn't sanctioned by anyone so there isn't really any collectors value.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 05:13 AM

Yeah please don't.. just go buy Xenoblade if you haven't already and pre-order/buy The Last Story to help get Pandora's Tower published in the US.

The things is they will get more money than they need, too many gullible people out there.
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Posted 21 April 2012 - 06:22 AM

Sorry, but this is ridiculous. While I agree that the attention they brought to the games probably helped in some small way to convince Nintendo, Gamestop and Xseed to make the decision to publish two of the three here, the game media played a huge role as well in making consumers aware of the games and Operation Rainfall. The fact that Americans ordered so many copies of the first game from Europe was probably more than enough evidence for Gamestop to smell potential financial success with publishing the game in coordination with Nintendo. In fact, Nintendo probably delayed the release in response to the pressure from Operation Rainfall as Japanese business practices would have dictated that Nintendo couldn't cave in to pressure and had to wait until Operation Rainfall essentially backed down so they could save face.

I have a real issue with Operation Rainfall using trademarks they don't own to publish an unlicensed case and asking people to support their unnecessary advocacy effort. Does anyone really believe that the publishers they are targeting are not aware of the game and will be persuaded by a package from a small group of fans? The only information these companies are interested in is how many copies of the first two have sold and what the estimated sales of the third will be. This is just a ridiculous effort and I can't believe anyone is rushing to hand over money for this.


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Posted 21 April 2012 - 06:41 AM

Spot on. Contrary to what OpR wants to think, they had little to nothing at all to do with 2 of those games being released here.


lol what? OpR is one of the primary group that has been rallying to get these games over here.

seriously how is such a large group of gamers that exist here on this website unaware of this fact?

if i had 10 dollars i'd donate just because they really helped push these games to america and if i get a box great if not oh well. its called a donation people. there is no promise of a reward by very defintion of the word donation.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 07:17 AM

lol what? OpR is one of the primary group that has been rallying to get these games over here.

seriously how is such a large group of gamers that exist here on this website unaware of this fact?

if i had 10 dollars i'd donate just because they really helped push these games to america and if i get a box great if not oh well. its called a donation people. there is no promise of a reward by very defintion of the word donation.


First of all, Operation Rainfall is just a small group of game fans, not a non-profit, so this is not a "donation", it's a request to subsidize some unnecessary work. Second, all of us are aware of what they claim to have done, but those of us who have been following things understand that the decision was made to bring these over here not because of their pressure, but because it was seen as profitable by Nintendo, Gamestop and Xseed, nothing more, nothing less. Finally, whether they have good intentions or not, their plan makes no sense, it's preaching to the choir and most importantly, the premium they are planning to offer is not authorized in any way by Nintendo or any other rights holder and is a form of copyright and trademark infringement. So, you'll forgive me if I don't support their fundraiser and excuse me if I work hard to try to convince others not to pay them for this absurd plan.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 07:38 AM

Nope. Renique is right. I'd be willing to grant that what they did might have influenced getting these games released, but there is no ACTUAL proof that what they did actually led to their localization. Maybe Gamestop planned to do this well before the fact. Maybe someone higher up in NOA played and loved the game. Maybe the great reviews for Xenoblade changed some people's minds in NOA. Who knows?

Speaking of who knows, how do we know that Atlus and Xseed haven't already tried to get the license from Nintendo for Pandora's Tower already? What would be the point of pitching in to buy them copies then?

I find the whole thing appalling. The box itself says that these games were "presented by Operation Rainfall" front and center and calls the games "The Rainfall Collection." Someone should tell these guys that they did not in fact, make these games nor did they incur the costs to print, distribute and stock them.

Instead of giving your money to these guys you should give them to the people who you know, are actually putting Xenoblade and Last Story on the shelves.

Edit: This whole donation thing. The idea that someone would donate money to convince a for profit corporation to make a specific product is absurd to me. A donation should have a cause. "Making this cool video game I want" is not a cause.

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 07:38 AM

Uh, as much as I appreciate the Operation I won't be supporting this. Nintendo is well aware of the three games initially set forth, there's no way they don't. Secondly, I think it's funny how the Operation Rainfall logo is bigger than any of the individual game logos.