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#1 Toss

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 04:15 AM

Now that Amazon will be required to charge tax here in California, i feel an era has ended. I had always viewed any amazon credit I had as being more valuable than GS credit and (marginally) Bestbuy credit. Now that there will be tax and Amazon is no where as aggressive as they once were on gaming prices, TIVs (as well as the quantity caps), Gamestop will be my go to place. It helps that there are more than 20 of them within 40 minutes of my house.
I'm glad i picked up those Gibson electrics while they were ultra cheap and tax free last month! :)

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#2 Mega Man

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 04:15 AM

$5 tax per game sucks but I still use amazon =]

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 04:23 AM

Paying tax online stinks, but what are ya gonna do. NewEgg is just about the last place I can get stuff tax-free online.

Now if they ever start charging tax on Steam, that will be the end of an era.
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#4 Dark Lord Greg

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 04:36 AM

same here unless Amazon stars offering $10+ credit with every game or lowers prices then Gamestop is gonna be the way to go for new releases especially with midnight release for big titles for the same price and with exclusive DLC

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 04:43 AM

Yeah, unfortunately this will greatly impact my spending habits on amazon.

I'd hope that amazon would bring back videogame credits during the holidays to help with the savings and encourage me to shop with them despite the tax.

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#6 Dark Lord Greg

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 04:51 AM

I remember reading an article that they were looking to offer same day delivery since they were now going to charge tax but I'm sure that would come at a premium like one-day shipping

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#7 ragingst0rm6

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 05:26 AM

Yea, this definitely will affect my buying decisions. I still have a Prime account (for now), so at least I'll still have free shipping...

#8 Zaku77

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 05:33 AM

I think newegg has put another nail in their coffin (where pre-ordersa re concerned, at least.)

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#9 Squarehard

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 05:41 AM

I've already made peace that I won't be shopping at Amazon as much anymore starting tomorrow.
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#10 r00kie

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 07:18 AM

I noticed nothing has changed tax wise buying stuff from third parties on Amazon...so looks like the cheaper option will be stuff not sold by amazon.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 07:38 AM

Oooh interesting.
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#12 wugenius

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 07:45 AM

Yeah im in cali and will be thinking twice now before biting on a deal from amazon. Especially if tax bumps it up alot.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 08:09 AM

Amazon needs a video game rewards program now more than ever.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 08:33 AM

I will definitely still purchase from Amazon, especially with the value of Prime. Unless its something I need ASAP, Amazon saves me from having to waste time and even gasoline in terms of going somewhere.

The only consideration might be shopping at Best Buy if the Reward Zone point ratio is basically still equivalent to the sales tax, because then its like getting your tax back when you qualify for a cert. Plus Best Buy has been riding the free shipping train hard this year, but I can't see that continuing forever.


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Posted 15 September 2012 - 09:05 AM

Does any one else knows a good online store that is out states besides Tigerdirect? Looks like I'll be shopping more at newegg.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 09:30 AM

Paying tax online stinks, but what are ya gonna do. NewEgg is just about the last place I can get stuff tax-free online.

Now if they ever start charging tax on Steam, that will be the end of an era.


I live in Washington state (where both Amazon and Valve are located) so I have to pay tax at both places online. They're still the best deals around. Although GreenManGaming.com has had some pretty stellar deals on pc games lately as well.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 11:06 AM

I have to admit. It makes me sad everytime I read one of these threads. Like someone is entitled to not pay tax that is due on purchases. There was a loophole for a while and now it's closed. Get over it.

Having said that. There are bunches of reasons to still buy from Amazon, I'll name 3.

1. Most games are usually 5-10% cheaper than local places.

2. Depending on your car/location from the store, it costs money to do the shipping for the store. The IRS reimbursement rate for mileage is $.55/mile which so supposed to account for the total cost of driving a vehicle. Assuming you drive 10 miles (there back/5 miles) you have $5.50 into going to a store and picking up a game.

3. Assuming those 10 miles are in a city, you probably have 20-30 minutes in time on the road.

The transportation costs and opportunity costs of going to a store are usually ignored in these emotional rants.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 11:18 AM

I have to admit. It makes me sad everytime I read one of these threads. Like someone is entitled to not pay tax that is due on purchases. There was a loophole for a while and now it's closed. Get over it.


People like you make me sad. Holier than thou hypocrites on their high horses acting so great. We all know you do much worse stuff than not pay sales tax. Go away and stop posting your opinions on the internet please. Thank you.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 11:35 AM

this is why i sold my amazon stock the other week was a very nice run from 65 to 200+ but with most states getting taxxed by next year i can see the stock falling back under 175 to even 150

though am not stupid enough to try to short the sob
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Posted 15 September 2012 - 11:35 AM

I have to admit. It makes me sad everytime I read one of these threads. Like someone is entitled to not pay tax that is due on purchases. There was a loophole for a while and now it's closed. Get over it.

Having said that. There are bunches of reasons to still buy from Amazon, I'll name 3.

1. Most games are usually 5-10% cheaper than local places.

2. Depending on your car/location from the store, it costs money to do the shipping for the store. The IRS reimbursement rate for mileage is $.55/mile which so supposed to account for the total cost of driving a vehicle. Assuming you drive 10 miles (there back/5 miles) you have $5.50 into going to a store and picking up a game.

3. Assuming those 10 miles are in a city, you probably have 20-30 minutes in time on the road.

The transportation costs and opportunity costs of going to a store are usually ignored in these emotional rants.


Well, in los angeles youre never more than 3-4 miles from anything. I have 3 targets, 2 best buys, 2 walmarts, and probably 6 or 7 gamestops within 10 minutes of me. Now that, things for the most part are the same price or cheaper, and I can actually have them the same day, I dont see how amazon isnt going to see a lot less of my business.

I used to wait during the week and hope amazon would match a target or BB sale, but now there's no point to it. Especially with places like BB and gamestop, rewarding you with points for your purchases, and places like bigcrumbs (which amazon refuses to partake in, but most other online retailers do) earning you even more back.

I have 192 amazon orders this year, makes me wonder how this is going to affect UPS.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 11:40 AM

People like you make me sad. Holier than thou hypocrites on their high horses acting so great. We all know you do much worse stuff than not pay sales tax. Go away and stop posting your opinions on the internet please. Thank you.


Thanks for the personal attack since you can't generate an argument on why it's ethically correct to not pay taxes. Either way, there isn't much more to talk about. This is like the 50th I now have pay sales tax so I'm moving my business thread. If that's what you want to do fine. Not much point in acting like you're superior because you don't pay sales tax with an internet rant.

#22 smallsharkbigbite

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 11:48 AM

Well, in los angeles youre never more than 3-4 miles from anything. I have 3 targets, 2 best buys, 2 walmarts, and probably 6 or 7 gamestops within 10 minutes of me. Now that, things for the most part are the same price or cheaper, and I can actually have them the same day, I dont see how amazon isnt going to see a lot less of my business. .


Within 10 minutes = 15-20 minutes of total travel time? 6 miles/roundtrip is still a cost of $3.30 per the IRS.

You're probably abnormal that you are so close to everything but I'm not against buying locally. It's actually great for your local economy. I was just saying that for most people it still wouldn't make sense considering the other costs involved.

Either way, assuming Amazon sees a significant decrease in volume, they will probably be more aggressive with sales/price matching which isn't bad for the consumer.

#23 Zaku77

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 05:12 PM

Thanks for the personal attack since you can't generate an argument on why it's ethically correct to not pay taxes. Either way, there isn't much more to talk about. This is like the 50th I now have pay sales tax so I'm moving my business thread. If that's what you want to do fine. Not much point in acting like you're superior because you don't pay sales tax with an internet rant.



I think the point was that he didn't want to argue with it. He was trying to not turn it into an argument of ethics. Besides, as Lentricchia would say, "Tell us truly, have you no filth in your soul?" Most people are not in a position to make arguments of what is and isn't moral. A cynical person that is aware of this will certainly be irritated when they see one.

Of course it's not 'ethical' to not pay sales tax. No one is going to listen to some guy on a message board on a moral high horse about it, though. This thread wasn't even about that aspect of it. It makes the price of purchases go up, and no one like that. That's it, really.

(For the record, though, his response was a bit on the 'strong' side... lol)

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#24 lordopus99

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 06:27 PM

Of course it's not 'ethical' to not pay sales tax. No one is going to listen to some guy on a message board on a moral high horse about it, though. This thread wasn't even about that aspect of it. It makes the price of purchases go up, and no one like that. That's it, really.

(For the record, though, his response was a bit on the 'strong' side... lol)

It doesn't make the price of purchase go up since you were suppose to pay that tax to begin with. Plain and simple.

Talk about tax evasion. CAG is cool with it. Talk about return fraud at Walmart. CAG is up in arms/mods go crazy. Look at the irony...
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Anyway, Amazon has been dying for over a year now. Hardly any deal they create. Little to no credit deals. All they do is match some deals. Too low and they won't touch. See Best Buy Deal of Day. They hardly touch those. Now people in CA being forced to pay tax finally. Nail in coffin in CA. Best Buy might survive after all. :D

#25 kodave

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 07:05 PM

An asshole can still tell someone else they are an asshole too and be correct about that, to put it crudely. This thread doesn't seem to understand that.


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Posted 15 September 2012 - 07:07 PM

This confirms I won't be renewing my Prime membership

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 07:09 PM

When Amazon starts collecting sales tax, it isn't likely to change my buying habits there. I shop there because of their selection and prime shipping makes it super convenient. And their cs is top shelf.

#28 watcher0

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 07:30 PM

As someone that's always been taxed by Amazon, I can say that I still use them more than any B&M store.
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#29 Zaku77

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 08:08 PM

It doesn't make the price of purchase go up since you were suppose to pay that tax to begin with. Plain and simple.

Talk about tax evasion. CAG is cool with it. Talk about return fraud at Walmart. CAG is up in arms/mods go crazy. Look at the irony...
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Anyway, Amazon has been dying for over a year now. Hardly any deal they create. Little to no credit deals. All they do is match some deals. Too low and they won't touch. See Best Buy Deal of Day. They hardly touch those. Now people in CA being forced to pay tax finally. Nail in coffin in CA. Best Buy might survive after all. :D


You were 'supposed' to pay it to begin with. If one hasn't been paying it for years, though, then it actually does make the price of purchases go up! It may be up to where it should have been in the first place, but up is up, regardless.

(I live on Oregon anyway, so I just laugh at all you jokers with your sales tax... lol)

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 08:34 PM

I don't know. I think living in Orgeon is worse then paying taxes if you live in a metropoltian area.

I mean I know there are 50 states and all but like 20 to me don't exist in till I hear about them.

Anyway happy to be tax free on amazon here in FL.

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