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#1 ITDEFX

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 07:24 PM

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This is what WB gets for waiting so long to get the ball rolling on this shit. I dunno, I am not too excited anymore since they had plenty of time to do a proper build up like what Marvel did for the Avengers.

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 07:52 PM

Outright bizarre choice to aim for a date that will put them head to head with the juggernaut that is the Avengers.

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 08:05 PM

Juggernaut, Avengers, heh.;)
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#4 ITDEFX

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 08:09 PM

Outright bizarre choice to aim for a date that will put them head to head with the juggernaut that is the Avengers.



I am thinking a few things:

-They are putting a lot of faith into the upcoming Man of Steel that they will probably announce a sequel to be released just before A2, with JL coming in July.

-Time for them to put out a "REAL" Wonder Woman movie instead of dicking us around with tv pilots that don't make it or Sandra Bullock as WW pics from 15 years ago.

-A Martian Manhunter movie........

-A reboot of Green lantern. Yeah it was so so...give us John Stewart!

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 09:23 PM

Consider we only know 1 of the actors...I'm not remotely interested. Marvel has done it right from the get-go, err..."Phases". I'm already looking forward to the upcoming movies and of course A2 is on my list in 3 years :D

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 09:28 PM

Does make you wonder..........could the Avengers have been successful without the movies building up to it? For example would it have made so much money if we didn't have the Iron man, CA, Thor movies and just had the Avengers? I think the build up is what made it so much money....it sure wasn't the story or the 3D.

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 09:48 PM

Back in 2008, WB said that a JLA film was supposed to be released in 2011:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0974015/

Then on November 2011, WB said that Justice League will be released in 2015:

youtube.com/ watch?v=35pasFezx_I


Then later they backed out of that statment, but now fast forward a year later, 2012, and they're saying it's back on?

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 09:54 PM

They're going to need one hell of a director and writer to make audiences give a shit about all these characters from the start. I Mean, it's not impossible, the Justice League cartoon introduced the team one by one with enough exposition to get the personality of each character in a 60 minute time frame, but Warner isn't known for handling the DC film franchise well outside of the Nolan Bat films.
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Posted 18 October 2012 - 09:56 PM

It's not like they're releasing it on the same day, so I don't know why they need luck?

They're going to need one hell of a director and writer to make audiences give a shit about all these characters from the start. I Mean, it's not impossible, the Justice League cartoon introduced the team one by one with enough exposition to get the personality of each character in a 60 minute time frame, but Warner isn't known for handling the DC film franchise well outside of the Nolan Bat films.


The Justice League has more popular and well known heroes than The Avengers did which is why it was smart of Marvel to give each their own movie before. Everyone knows who Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, The Flash, and Green Lantern are. The only one that people wouldn't know is Martian Manhunter, but who knows if he'll even be in the movie.

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 10:05 PM

Does make you wonder..........could the Avengers have been successful without the movies building up to it? For example would it have made so much money if we didn't have the Iron man, CA, Thor movies and just had the Avengers? I think the build up is what made it so much money....it sure wasn't the story or the 3D.

It was definetly the hype.



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Posted 18 October 2012 - 10:07 PM

It's not like they're releasing it on the same day, so I don't know why they need luck?



The Justice League has more popular and well known heroes than The Avengers did which is why it was smart of Marvel to give each their own movie before. Everyone knows who Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, The Flash, and Green Lantern are. The only one that people probably wouldn't know is Martian Manhunter, but who knows if he'll even be in the movie.

And Hawkgirl. Though I'd say Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash and Green Lantern are just as popular as Hulk, Cap, Iron Man and Thor. The only problem is outside of Supes and Batman (because of recent films) is that a majority of people don't know the personality or stories of the other DC heroes. People know their power and outfits, yes, but that only plays a small role and you can't get behind a character merely for just their powers or look. The only exception to that rule is Hulk since his personality and powers are all one in the same for the most part.

Also if they know any better they'll goddamn choose Wally West as Flash for the film because Barry Allen is boooooooring.
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Posted 18 October 2012 - 10:13 PM

The least known avengers(Black widow and Hawkeye) didn't even get their own movies.



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Posted 18 October 2012 - 10:15 PM

MOST of the general public only know of Superman and Batman, and to a degree Wonder Woman.

MOST people have heard about Flash.

When Green Lantern came out, not a lot of the general public even knew what he was, and often confused him for Green Hornet.

WB/DC will have to make a film worthwhile introducing these characters still rather than banking on a JLA cartoon from 10 years ago.

All I'll say is Geoff Johns constant re-writing ruined the GL movie, I hope he's not involved in as he was in the now proposed JLA movie.

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 10:19 PM

When Green Lantern came out, not a lot of the general public even knew what he was, and often confused him for Green Hornet.


Huh? I mean if the movies hit theaters the same same time then I guess for that short period of time a small amount of people might have been confused momentarily? But they didn't.

At this point though with the help of the movie Green Lantern is just as well known as any of the heroes in the Avengers.

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 10:30 PM

The least known avengers(Black widow and Hawkeye) didn't even get their own movies.

Black Widow got Iron Man 2, which was really all just set up for SHIELD's involvement and setting up the characters for Avengers. Plus you got enough of her character in IM2, but by Avengers you knew really you needed to about the character so by the end you've established enough of her character and history that's equivalence to a movie.

MOST of the general public only know of Superman and Batman, and to a degree Wonder Woman.

MOST people have heard about Flash.

When Green Lantern came out, not a lot of the general public even knew what he was, and often confused him for Green Hornet.

WB/DC will have to make a film worthwhile introducing these characters still rather than banking on a JLA cartoon from 10 years ago.

All I'll say is Geoff Johns constant re-writing ruined the GL movie, I hope he's not involved in as he was in the now proposed JLA movie.

Most people only know of Wonder Woman only through the fetishistic eyes of that costume.

Plus Green Lantern AND Green Hornet had the misfortune of being released around the same time to one another. That and the general consensus being that GL was ass and no one didn't care to go see it didn't help.

Though what really bothers me is Marvel did play it right with how they did the lead up movies. Since even if you didn't see one or two of the tie in films, you could at least feel secure enough in going to see the movie because you know of one of the characters from a prior film. It kinda gave a non comic reading audiences a life preserver with following a specific character to help shepherd them to see the movie. With Justice League's plan of BIG movie first THEN establishing franchises it just seems so goddamn risky because if the movie bombs or the character fails to resonate with the audience then how in the hell is that going to encourage audiences to see that one character's film? Plus doing this so soon after Nolan's Batman universe worries me because that Batman can't coexist in a world of super powers and audiences will be linking that version to this one no matter the actor.
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Posted 18 October 2012 - 10:49 PM

Huh? I mean if the movies hit theaters the same same time then I guess for that short period of time a small amount of people might have been confused momentarily? But they didn't.

At this point though with the help of the movie Green Lantern is just as well known as any of the heroes in the Avengers.

Not really. Green Lantern film was released in 2011.

https://www.google.c...8NZmazrsA_YVU1Q

Top Marvel/DC superhero Google searches of 2011:

Avengers
Iron Man
Batman
Spider-Man

Captain America
Superman
X-Men
Wolverine

Thor
Hulk

Green Lantern didn't even make the list and is now probably a distant memory this year.

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 10:57 PM

Plus Green Lantern AND Green Hornet had the misfortune of being released around the same time to one another. That and the general consensus being that GL was ass and no one didn't care to go see it didn't help.


6 months apart is not around the same time. Do you think anyone went to Green Lantern six months after the release of Green Hornet and thought they were seeing Green Hornet?

I don't even remember what I saw in theaters six months ago off the top of my head.


Also Green Lantern had a $50 million opening weekend. That means no one saw it, right?

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 11:02 PM

Huh? I mean if the movies hit theaters the same same time then I guess for that short period of time a small amount of people might have been confused momentarily? But they didn't.

At this point though with the help of the movie Green Lantern is just as well known as any of the heroes in the Avengers.

Yeah except Green Lantern BOMBED and the Avengers grossed over a billion dollars. I guarantee you there are people who don't even know a Green Lantern movie exists, so no, the character is not as well known.

I just flat out have absolutely NO excitement for this movie and I can't see the average moviegoer showing that much more of an interest. Marvel has done a fantastic job in creating anticipation for their future movies, even those years away. While DC has done the complete opposite. The new Superman movie comes out in what? Less than a year? Who but movie buffs or comic book fans actually know that?

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 11:12 PM

I think people are being a bit harsh just because marvel did it first.



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Posted 18 October 2012 - 11:16 PM

Yeah except Green Lantern BOMBED and the Avengers grossed over a billion dollars. I guarantee you there are people who don't even know a Green Lantern movie exists, so no, the character is not as well known.

I just flat out have absolutely NO excitement for this movie and I can't see the average moviegoer showing that much more of an interest. Marvel has done a fantastic job in creating anticipation for their future movies, even those years away. While DC has done the complete opposite. The new Superman movie comes out in what? Less than a year? Who but movie buffs or comic book fans actually know that?


You have absolutely no excitement for a movie that's not coming out for three years and has next to no information out about it?


That's weird.

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 11:22 PM

You have absolutely no excitement for a movie that has next to no information out about it?


That's weird.

I'm sorry, and what do you think the whole point for them announcing a release date for the movie was? Not to drum up anticipation and excitement? You're right, makes sense :roll:

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 11:27 PM

You seem to be confusing a release year with a trailer.

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 11:44 PM

You seem to be confusing a release date with a trailer.

No, you seem to be confusing what you think, with what I've actually wrote. Why else would they announce the movie for SUMMER 2015 and not just 2015? That was just a coincidence right? Yeah, I'm sure they weren't expecting publicity or anything to come of this.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 01:22 AM

It can work, of course. However, it would need the right cast and crew, but it's going to be tough to watch a Batman A) other than Bale and B) not written and directed by Nolan. Will it be better than the Avengers? Probably not, that would depend on the villain. All the characters, outside of Batman and *maybe* Hal Jordan GL, are perfect characters, and always have been. They've got no flaws.

It's going to be hard for the movie to be good (because it will make as much money as Avengers 2, regardless if it is good or not) considering you'd have to rush the origins of The Flash, Martian Manhunter, Green Lantern (if they go with Stewart, Rayner or Gardner), Wonder Woman, Aquaman, or whoever else is on the team. And like I've already said, it is possible, but it would need the right cast and crew. Another problem is this: would we be getting old versions of the characters, or revamped New 52 versions of the characters?

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't interested, because I am, but I can also say that I am far more interested in Antman and Avengers 2 for 2015.
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 01:33 AM

^ I honestly don't think it would take a lot to be "better" than the Avengers

No, you seem to be confusing what you think, with what I've actually wrote. Why else would they announce the movie for SUMMER 2015 and not just 2015? That was just a coincidence right? Yeah, I'm sure they weren't expecting publicity or anything to come of this.

They released the date to get people talking it. I doubt they expect full blown excitement.



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Posted 19 October 2012 - 01:36 AM

Black Widow got Iron Man 2, which was really all just set up for SHIELD's involvement and setting up the characters for Avengers. Plus you got enough of her character in IM2, but by Avengers you knew really you needed to about the character so by the end you've established enough of her character and history that's equivalence to a movie.

Most people only know of Wonder Woman only through the fetishistic eyes of that costume.

Plus Green Lantern AND Green Hornet had the misfortune of being released around the same time to one another. That and the general consensus being that GL was ass and no one didn't care to go see it didn't help.

Though what really bothers me is Marvel did play it right with how they did the lead up movies. Since even if you didn't see one or two of the tie in films, you could at least feel secure enough in going to see the movie because you know of one of the characters from a prior film. It kinda gave a non comic reading audiences a life preserver with following a specific character to help shepherd them to see the movie. With Justice League's plan of BIG movie first THEN establishing franchises it just seems so goddamn risky because if the movie bombs or the character fails to resonate with the audience then how in the hell is that going to encourage audiences to see that one character's film? Plus doing this so soon after Nolan's Batman universe worries me because that Batman can't coexist in a world of super powers and audiences will be linking that version to this one no matter the actor.



I agree with the last paragraph. I hadnt seen Thor when I saw the Avengers but because of Captain America, Iron Man, Hulk, etc I still had no problem going to see it. I think DC is smart to try this, but wish it had better buildup because you're right, outside of Batman and Superman the other characters wont enough exposure beforehand for viewers to feel interested in them.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 01:37 AM

It would take a quite a bit to match the money Avengers made (not even TDKR did that), so yeah -- all opinions of how good the movie is aside -- it would. But no need to turn this into an argument on which franchise or movie series is (or will be) better, my friend.
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 01:39 AM

I think that's why I liked Marvel a lot better back years ago. Too many of DC's characters seem like they have no flaws. Sure, Bats has some serious issues, but he seems to be the exception. I think that's why it's hard to do a Superman film, because the guy is practically a god on earth, you pretty much have to either trot out kryptonite or one of the few villains he has which can actually go toe to toe with him, like Zod.
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 01:42 AM

You said a movie that hasn't even come out might not be as a good as the avengers. Also the avengers was in 3d, which probably helped.



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Posted 19 October 2012 - 01:45 AM

Pretty sure Justice League will be in 3D, given that a Green Lantern will no doubt be in the film. Flying and laser beams and all that good stuff, too. Oh, and explosions.
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