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#1 CheapyD

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 07:50 AM

The CAGcast guys talk Injustice: Gods Among Us, Dead Island Riptide, Don't Starve, Surgeon Simulator 2013, Star Trek and more! Stay tuned after the show for a Bioshock Infinite spoiler special.

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2:00 Bioshock Infinite or Hitman or Tomb Raider?
7:15 Show Feedback
7:15 - Localization
11:15 - Marvel vs DC
14:15 Injustice
24:30 Watch This
24:30 - Django Unchained
25:15 New Releases
25:25 - Dead Island:Riptide
29:30 - Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen
30:30 - Star Trek: The Video Game
32:00 - Lego City Undercover
35:15 - Black Rock Shooter
38:30 - Poker Night 2
42:00 - Don't Starve
44:00 - Kairo
44:45 - Surgeon Simulator 2013
47:45 Cheapy Awards
48:30 Dragon's Crown Sorceress controversy
56:45 Microsoft Xbox unveiling May 21st
57:15 Kinect / Pizza Hut
59:45 Motorcross Mania
1:00:15 Dragon Fantasy Book I
1:01:45 Robot Unicorn II
1:03:30 Bioshock Infinite discussion (spoilers)


Edited by CheapyD, 27 April 2013 - 03:53 AM.


#2 4nik8tor

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 09:03 AM

spoil me. I don't care.
spoil me.

#3 thepattenfactor

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 09:11 AM

Great show. Really enjoyed all the discussion about ordering pizza from the Xbox!

#4 Sgt Barone

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:43 AM

Can't wait to listen!

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#5 wiiheat

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 11:47 AM

It is "respectful objectification".

It's like a Baldung painting, but with Double Ks instead of B cups; and lots of hitting instead of standing in repose.

#6 LoveAndBeer

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 12:02 PM

I honestly cannot believe I'm getting ready to type this but: bit vulgar on the opening song this week Cheapy. I don't mind F-bombs (its an adult show) but really it put me off starting off the show with that song. Mayhap because I started listening just after dropping my daughter off at school.

Dear God I feel old typing that.

I of course also realize the disagreements that will follow below, but it bugged me enough to decide to mention.

Still listening of course, the content of the show (poop and all) has never been a problem. Quite looking forward to the spoilercast talk later.
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#7 Argive

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 12:21 PM

I'm with Wombat on his so-called "questionable" decision making. I haven't played Halo 4, but people say it's a really good shooter, especially for those restricted to console like Wombat. He can get to Tomb Raider when he's good and ready! I'm going to buy it now because it just went to $25 on Origin. No need to be a slave to the release schedule.
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#8 chooka1

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 12:46 PM

I would very much appreciate a 360 code for Poker night 2.
Why?
1) recently paid big bucks and drive 65 miles to see Evil Dead the musical. Once, when younger, even tried to raise funds for Bruce to shoot Army of Darkness 2.

2) My wife lived hearing Glados taunt me while playing portal wide kept asking why I kept dying in between laughs.

3) Sam and Max, never met them. I'd welcome a chance to play poker with them

4) I love Claptrap and borderlands so much that I wrecked my brand new 65 inch plasma screen by playing borderlands 2 too long before the tv was broken in. I now have permanent burn in of the health and shield bar. :(

5) constructive comment for the show: an occasion look back at a "classic game" like fallout or dragon age. Maybe a periodic wombat, shipwreck or cheapl y d "favorite 5 minutes" on a classic game.

6) finally, I'm without Internet for a week at home. Upgraded to fiber optic modem and CenturyLink cut my line while upgrading. A different (!?) tech has to come back an first appt. is in a week !?). Would live to look forward to poker to download.

Thanks!

#9 mebesquee

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 12:51 PM

Good cast this week. I think more discussion on why people don't like the dead island game just because it was similar to the old one would be good. I have a thought that some reviewers were still trying to make a statement about the torso stuff. Compare the scores for DI R to the score of the Star Trek game and you will see who was being true to the review and who wasn't

#10 Wombat

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 12:58 PM

I honestly cannot believe I'm getting ready to type this but: bit vulgar on the opening song this week Cheapy. I don't mind F-bombs (its an adult show) but really it put me off starting off the show with that song. Mayhap because I started listening just after dropping my daughter off at school.

Dear God I feel old typing that.

I of course also realize the disagreements that will follow below, but it bugged me enough to decide to mention.

Still listening of course, the content of the show (poop and all) has never been a problem. Quite looking forward to the spoilercast talk later.


No, I agree with you. I said something to Cheapy also.

#11 G-Dog

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:23 PM

You want to talk about dumb super heroes and costumes? DC doesn’t have the monopoly on that, Marvel has their fair share of goofballs as well.

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Yes, those are disco ball roller skates.. being worn by a member of the X-Men.

But honestly there’s no such thing as a bad character, just bad writers. Good writers have made Moon Night interesting in the past, no small feat.

#12 testudo

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:25 PM

I honestly cannot believe I'm getting ready to type this but: bit vulgar on the opening song this week Cheapy. I don't mind F-bombs (its an adult show) but really it put me off starting off the show with that song. Mayhap because I started listening just after dropping my daughter off at school.


Cheapy is a callous man, period.

Leaves his kid home alone.

He watches emo documentaries to feel better about himself and to try to have some sort of sensitivity.

There is a reason why he is nominated for CAG villian.

The dude needs therapy.

OH yeah and I think my post was the most constructive (its gonna make Cheapy a better man!), please send a Poker Night 2 360 code this way.

Edited by testudo, 25 April 2013 - 02:03 PM.
wanting a copy of the Poker Night 2 on xbox

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#13 kennygmoney

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:34 PM

Just finished listening to this episode and want to say another great show as usual guys. I have to say that I didn't mind the opening music. It was really just classic Cheapy style music which is to say music with a techno/dance beat that is way out there. Tuning in to hear what crazy opening song Cheapy picked out this week is one of the trademarks I love about the show. Also, I've been listening to the CAGcast long enough to know that I shouldn't listen around sensitive ears. And besides, I really never listen to a podcast out loud with other people around anyway.

Also, props to Cheapy and Shipwreck for their unbiased opinion on DI:Riptide. Not that I necessarily care about that game to be honest but for some reason they gained a few respect points and leveled up in my book by just being honest and not lambasting it like every other video game news/review outlet for being more of the same. I listen to a lot of video game podcasts and this podcast has really become my go to source for unbiased and informative views on all things video games that really seem to jive with me. Keep up the good work gang....and yes that includes you too Wombat. Way to come around on Injustice. :applause:

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:49 PM

You got the "Arrow" DLC costume for free by voting on the Injustice Battle Arena website before the game came out. I still haven't gotten my code though, so don't feel too bad.

Oh and Poker Night 2 please.
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#15 thrifty1

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 01:55 PM

I'm excited for Dragon's Crown. I don't care at all whether it has breasts or not. It's a non-issue for me.

The art style (big boobs or not) looks good to me. And i'm excited for another 2d sidescroller with special command inputs for special moves. And I think I read it has skill trees??

I just hope they do crossplay because idk if i'll buy it for ps3 or vita.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 02:06 PM

Tomb Raider will be $30 soon enough. I can't blame Wombat for not being in a hurry to mow down hundreds of generic goons, and fight mini-bosses straight out of the third-person shooter big book of cliches.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 02:11 PM

I'd really like one of those Poker Night codes.

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I don't know... a support beam?


Seriously... I think Cheapy needs to plug in his 3DS and try out some of the more recent and awesome 3DS games. He seems to be stuck in the opinions he had during the first admittedly horrid first year.

I'd start with Luigi's Mansion 2.

#18 wiiheat

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 02:22 PM

On Bioshock Inf.-
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You kinda have to pay attention, it's all in the game.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 02:29 PM

Cheapy you need to check out Young Justice just got cancelled only two seasons but one of the best cartoons ever done.
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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:22 PM

I have yet to play Injustice, but I don't think Wombat was out of line when he was complaining about the costumes. I also agree that the game's art is pretty bad in general. I still might pick it up based on word of mouth, but a stronger aesthetic would have made it a day one purchase for me.

#21 nobodysleeps

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 03:53 PM

I think a big part about Bioshock Infinite was character. And nobody talked about Booker or Elizabeth as characters or tried to relate to them. The one time you talk about Elizabeth is when you joke about her tits, which dampens whatever sort of credibility you had when talking about George Kamitani's character designs.

There were some good points brought up about Bioshock Infinite's story, like what was up with the horn head guys and why can I buy an action figure based on that character at Toys R Us? Also, why did they deduce that they must have changed everything just cause the weapon making equipment wasn't where it should have been, and also the Elizabeth's mom ghost. But I think the ghost thing and the whole insane asylum all was there to serve character. Which I think is becoming more and more important now a days. In my opinion I think you will always need good characters. Booker and Elizabeth were good characters and they were my favorite part of the game. They drove the story and I wanted to see how they would react to things and how they changed through out the story.

I'm wondering how the effort put into Bioshock Infinite's story compares to the effort put into Tomb Raider's story. Tomb Raider is just..."don't die". And I can say that i like the gameplay more in Tomb Raider in terms of exploration and shooting mechanics, but I still think Bioshock is a better game because I cared about it more. So I'm wondering if Cheapy is more accepting to the plot of Tomb Raider(i.e. don't die...get off island) because it serves the gameplay more and not so much in Bioshock because it serves character and tries to engage the audience's emotion.

Whatever, good show. It's still refreshing to see different opinions on bioshock!

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 04:14 PM

Awesome show as usual guys! I'd love to see you hit one last quick list of 3 or 5 games from this entire generation that someone would really be missing out on it they didn't play it before all the new consoles roll out. As someone who just started playing Just Cause 2 this week, I'm glad I didn't let it fall through the cracks. Keep up the great work!

I'd also love a copy of Poker Night 2 (360) Thanks!
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#23 hoofrog

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 04:18 PM

I would love a Poker Night 2 code.
Also, Injustice needs Ambush Bug DLC.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 04:36 PM

Cheapy you need to check out Young Justice just got cancelled only two seasons but one of the best cartoons ever done.


I agree. It's almost as good as Justice League Unlimited.

As far as Bioshock, I rank them Bioshock 2, Bioshock 1 and then Bioshock Infinite. All three are good and have their own strengths. I think Bioshock had the best story but second best gameplay. Bioshock 2 had the second best story, but the gameplay was just much better and 1 and Infinite. Bioshock 2 introduced dual wielding to the series, fixed the hacking mini-games and kept the expanded arsenal of Bioshock. It struck the best balance between gameplay and story.

As much as I liked Infinite, the story got out of control toward the end. I'm with Cheapy in that is felt like a slog and a little tedious toward the end. If they took one of Wombat's fixes, I think they could have kept the story focused. I also had an issue with the 2 weapon limit. Not only did it take away a lot of your strategic options, the ammo reserves were also really small. On top of that, the weapons were too similar. For example, the repeater and machine were almost identical and not to far off from the burst gun. Despite these issues, I did enjoy the game and even bought the season pass.
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Posted 25 April 2013 - 04:55 PM

In an effort to win the code for Poker Night 2 on the 360, I wanted to see about luring over Shipwreck to giving DC a shot. I was primarily a Marvel fan for most of my life till I picked up a graphic novel at a friend's suggestion. This may have been put out there already but in case it hasn't I thought it worth a shot.

'Identity Crisis' by Brad Meltzer remains one of the best series I've read to date. It's the graphic novel I recommend to folks just starting to dabble in comics. Shipwreck, give it a shot. It's one of the most popular series in DC history as well as one of the most reviled.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 04:56 PM

I completely agree with Wombat's thoughts on the Injustice demo, even with the part where I can't explain why. When the (new) Mortal Kombat demo came out a couple of years back, my friends and I played the crap out of that (until one of us purchased the full game). So when I heard of the Injustice demo coming, I was sure to download it ASAP. But... we probably played about 2 rounds apiece of it, and then were already bored of it. In comparison, we played the MK demo for good ~2-3 hour chunks on multiple days. But the Injustice demo, we were all done within 20 or so minutes.
However, surprisingly to me, one of my friends still decided to buy the full game last week, and we have enjoyed it pretty well. So the demo is unrepresentative of the product. I just can't tell you how.
And this was already answered, but I'm pretty sure you can't get the Green Arrow Arrow TV show costume anymore. There were only like 5,000 given away or something like that for doing something before the game came out.

#27 jimijumper

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 05:00 PM

Love to hear Shipwreck say "Necronomicon" he does it with such class....

#28 solidsevn

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 06:02 PM

i might be in the minority here, but I feel like shipwreck bags on wombat, almost with a tone where he is trying to discredit him. I've listen to the cagcast well before shipwreck was even part of the show. and I have no affinity for either of them, just feel like shipwreck is starting to have an attitude with wombat

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 06:12 PM

Show Notes

2:00 Bioshock Infinite or Hitman or Tomb Raider?
7:15 Show Feedback
7:15 - Localization
11:15 - Marvel vs DC
14:15 Injustice
24:30 Watch This
24:30 - Django Unchained
25:15 New Releases
25:25 - Dead Island:Riptide
29:30 - Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen
30:30 - Star Trek: The Video Game
32:00 - Lego City Undercover
35:15 - Black Rock Shooter
38:30 - Poker Night 2
42:00 - Don't Starve
44:00 - Kairo
44:45 - Surgeon Simulator 2013
47:45 Cheapy Awards
48:30 Dragon's Crown Sorceress controversy
56:45 Microsoft Xbox unveiling May 21st
57:15 Kinect / Pizza Hut
59:45 Motorcross Mania
1:00:15 Dragon Fantasy Book I
1:01:45 Robot Unicorn II
1:03:30 Bioshock Infinite discussion (spoilers)

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 06:47 PM

i might be in the minority here, but I feel like shipwreck bags on wombat, almost with a tone where he is trying to discredit him. I've listen to the cagcast well before shipwreck was even part of the show. and I have no affinity for either of them, just feel like shipwreck is starting to have an attitude with wombat


It's not as bad as the tone Wombat takes when reading show feedback.

Edit: with the bio shock discussion, I understand not liking a story to a game, but constantly saying what "should" have been done is insane. It's like listening to someone who didn't like a feature in the game explaining what should have been done to make the game better. If you knew what should have been done you'd be writing game stories or programming a game.