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#1 Backlash

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Posted 07 May 2005 - 10:51 PM

UPDATE


This thread is mostly dead (though the information below in this post is still very valuable). All discussion and cover creation has moved over to www.thecoverproject.net, a site set up just for these cover projects. Check the forums there.


Cases

We are using the generic game cases from MediaShelving.com. They can be bought cheaply, but only in bulk (100 at a time). So, unless you have a ton of caseless N64/SNES/Genesis games, you will probably want to have one person buy them and then split the cost.

They can be found here. Make sure to get the ones with Full Sleeve (to put the cover in, of course).

Existing covers

These must be printed on legal size (8.5x14) paper (in color of course!). Regular white paper should work fine, not sure about glossy or other stock yet.

Snackbar Games is the official hosting site for N64 game covers (as well as GBA, SNES, etc). (Click the N64 tab.)

4tygames is maintaining a full list of covers we have as well as what games are remaining. The list notes whether we have any cover at all, as well as differentiating between PAL and NTSC versions.


How can I help?

We need scans!
You can create a scan for any N64 game that we don't yet have. Scan the back, the front, and the top at 300 dpi or better resolution. Ideally, you would then crop and resize your scans to the correct dimensions and then upload it. If your Photoshop (or Gimp, etc) skills are lacking, then you can just upload the raw scans to our ftp site (graciously hosted by nate1749) and others can fix them up.

Right now we actually have quite a few raw scans waiting, and we also need help turning raw scans into finished covers. See the details in the next section (especially slash's guide).

Upload finished covers here:
http://www.snackbar-...ploadcovers.php
Make sure to choose N64 for the format.


Upload/Find raw scans here:
http://ukbeats.com/n64/raw - this is a sort of photo album / ftp type thing

login: n64covers
pass: n64covers

You don't need a login to view any images, only to upload. You must login (link in upper right) to upload new images.


How do I turn my scans into covers?

We are keeping the horizontal orientation of the original boxes to a) keep the original art as perfectly as possible and b) make it much easier to complete this project. The spines will still look normal when the games are all lined up on your shelf.

Slash has created an excellent guide for converting raw scans to finished covers. It's based on Paint Shop Pro, but I use Photoshop and had no trouble using this guide. Download Slash's conversion guide here. (13 Mb)

The final dimensions are (in pixels at 300 DPI):

Front, Back:
1536 wide, 2100 tall

Spine:
294 wide, 2100 tall

Total:
3366 wide, 2100 tall

Red N64 Spine Logo:
294 wide, 384 tall

boxart spine image without logo:
294 wide, 1716 tall

The official spine logo (so that the red bar from the front and back will wrap all the way around):
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Also, we have decided to use a vertical N64 logo (as noted above, created by slash000) instead of the normal one from the original box tops/spines. Thus, the scan for the top needs to be cropped to remove the original N64 logo. slash000 has also provided these handy tips for getting the correct ratio after cropping and resizing:

If you crop the top and bottom of the scanned spine box-art just a tad, then when you resize it to the pixel dimensions of the case covers they come out at the right proportion. Check this out:

The original spine art:
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The original idea was to crop the spine art like this:
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The result was that when resized for the case spine's dimensions, it squeezed it inwards a little bit.

However, if you crop the spine art just a little bit more inward to the art, you can resize it to fit the spines and the result is the spine art is the right ratio. Crop like this:
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And you get good-looking spines.

#2 Backlash

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Posted 07 May 2005 - 10:53 PM

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#3 ViolentLee

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Posted 09 May 2005 - 06:41 PM

A plastic baggie works pretty darn well and cheaply.
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#4 Backlash

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Posted 09 May 2005 - 10:39 PM

But it looks crappy. Hopefully this N64 project will get off the ground and we will be able to create inserts for the generic cases using scans of the original boxart!

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Posted 09 May 2005 - 11:05 PM

You didn't say anything about looking good. ;)
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#6 megaseadramon

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Posted 11 May 2005 - 01:36 AM

honestly you dont really need them,mine sit in the open and they all work fine
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#7 Dazz

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Posted 11 May 2005 - 01:54 PM

find a mom and pop rental store because when i bought a few complete N64 games in the past, they put the game and manual in a clear case that is square. I believe i have 2 left if u want them.

The case in that link is what i have.
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Posted 11 May 2005 - 02:11 PM

Aside from the excellent universal cases from MediaShelving (I have a bunch, and keep my really special stuff in 'em), I actually store most of my N64 (and SNES, etc) carts in these little plasic storage bins, about 9 inches wide, 6 inches tall, and about 16 inches deep, kinda like a shoebox made out of clear plastic. They have lids, so that keeps the games clean and free from dust and whatknot. I get 'em at the Dollar Store. Very useful, especially if you're looking to store a lot of carts on the cheap.
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#9 Backlash

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Posted 11 May 2005 - 03:12 PM

Thanks for the replies. I am probably going to use the cases from MediaShelving.com, with the hope that the N64/SNES art project gets rolling.

#10 slash000

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Posted 11 May 2005 - 08:28 PM

Just so you guys have some idea of what we're doing, we're making covers for boxes like this (here are 2 that I have done so far):

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We're getting an N64 cover project going for the MediaShelving cases (not pictured). But first we need the actual cases.. which.. we'll need to split the cost for a 100 pack of (they only sell 100-packs).

100 for $40, divided by 4 = 25 cases for $10.

Pretty reasonable, if someone wants to order them, I and some other people are willing to 'buy' 25 cases from them.

Once we have the cases, we can measure them out, and start doing covers. Which won't be any more difficult than GBA cover project. (we'll be doing original, horizontal-based cover art as opposed to vertically-oriented art pictured above)

#11 Backlash

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Posted 11 May 2005 - 09:16 PM

How did you get the cover in there behind the little plastic pieces that hold the game?

#12 slash000

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Posted 11 May 2005 - 11:20 PM

How did you get the cover in there behind the little plastic pieces that hold the game?


Well, these aren't the same as the MediaShelving boxes, they're a different kind linked to in the GBA/DS thread.

There isn't actually a holder for them on these, like DVD cases, but the Mediashelving ones look like they do.. I think..

Anyway, for these, what I did is a used a lot of glue stick to keep them on, then I laminated them onto the cases to protect the printed covers and to kind of seal them in.

I think Mediashelving has a type of case with clear cover-holders. Not 100% sure.

#13 addicted2games

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Posted 11 May 2005 - 11:25 PM

I got all mine in the original boxes. Keeps em nice and clean.

#14 slash000

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Posted 12 May 2005 - 12:55 AM

I got all mine in the original boxes. Keeps em nice and clean.


Then perhaps, when this project is started, you could submit scans of your boxes..?

#15 dcfox

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Posted 12 May 2005 - 01:05 AM

Have you guys ordered the mediashelving cases yet?

#16 heyyoeddie

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Posted 12 May 2005 - 01:25 AM

I'm interested in about 10 of the cases.

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#17 Backlash

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Posted 12 May 2005 - 01:39 AM

Have you guys ordered the mediashelving cases yet?


I did - I made a post about it in the GBA DS project thread. Maybe we should abandon that one as far as this project is concerned to keep all the posts in one place.


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#18 Backlash

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Posted 13 May 2005 - 03:03 PM

I officially completed the order today (when you order online they actually just send you a quote since shipping varies so much, then you have to call them to verify). It should be here by Wed next week.

The total was actually $56 for 100 cases, since they charged $14 shipping. Still, $0.56 a case isn't bad.

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Posted 13 May 2005 - 03:10 PM

Then perhaps, when this project is started, you could submit scans of your boxes..?


I still have a ton of N64 boxes (around 25) and if I can get access to a scanner (shouldn't be a problem), I'd be more than happy to assist in this project...

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Posted 13 May 2005 - 11:10 PM

when you get the boxes.. start scouring Amazon they have a bunch of box art.

EDIT: to the post directly above mine.. you can get a cheap scanner that should have the proper resolution for around 30 bucks at wal mart.
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#21 slash000

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Posted 17 May 2005 - 04:34 PM

Well Snowcone say's he'll host the images. All we have to do now is wait for the cases to come, make some measurements, and agree on a template.

#22 Backlash

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Posted 17 May 2005 - 06:51 PM

Excellent - thanks! The cases should be here tomorrow or Thursday.

#23 Backlash

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 01:42 AM

The cases arrived today and they are sweet. It holds my N64 and SNES games almost perfectly (the N64 fits perfectly but the SNES has just a bit of extra room). It also says Genesis on it ( I have no Genesis games to test in it) and - you guys will love this - it says Electronic Arts. All these words are just in slightly raised plastic so you can't really see them unless you look closely.

There is a clear plastic sleeve all around the outside, so it should be really easy to just slide the printouts right in - no need to shave any plastic or anything like that.

I'll get exact measurements asap so the project can begin! Those of you who want cases, PM and we'll work out payment and shipping details.

EDIT:

I tried to measure the case/sleeve. The sleeve is exactly 7 1/16 inches tall, but it isn't quite as high as the actual case - the case is another 3/32 inches taller. I think I'd rather the covers just fit inside the sleeve, but I'm not quite sure.

The spine is exactly 1 inch across. The whole width of the sleeve was kinda hard to measure, b/c the glue that holds it down on the edges is the real limitation. However, it seems to be about 11 1/8 inches total. It might be easiest to just call it 11 inches (I just slid a regular sheet of 11 x 8.5 paper in there and it fit pretty well lengthwise). So the front and back would each be 5 inches across and the spine would be 1 inch.

Maybe slash or someone else with experience from the GBA project could comment on this?

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 01:47 AM

The cases arrived today and they are sweet. It holds my N64 and SNES games almost perfectly (the N64 fits perfectly but the SNES has just a bit of extra room). It also says Genesis on it ( I have no Genesis games to test in it) and - you guys will love this - it says Electronic Arts. All these words are just in slightly raised plastic so you can't really see them unless you look closely.

There is a clear plastic sleeve all around the outside, so it should be really easy to just slide the printouts right in - no need to shave any plastic or anything like that.

I'll get exact measurements asap so the project can begin! Those of you who want cases, PM and we'll work out payment and shipping details.

So the cases are EA :lol:

Anyways, I think I might grab some cases once the ball starts rolling on this project. I have 40+ N64 games and 20+ Genesis games so I might have to get an entire order for myself. How was it ordering from mediashelving? Good service, quick ship?

#25 Backlash

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 01:57 AM

Ordering from Media Shelving was pretty painless. You place the order online (or I guess you could phone), and then they get back to you with the exact price, b/c shipping varies so much, You then call (or I think you can email) to confirm or cancel your order.

I confirmed my order Friday and got the cases Today. She said it would be 3 business days, so it was pretty close.

You might as well order another case of 100; I'm sure people will want the extras.

#26 Wet Ninja

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 04:10 PM

So the cases are EA :lol:


I think that EA is printed on the case to indicate that it will accomodate the EA-style Genesis cartridges, which were different from the standard Genesis cartridges. They mention the ability of the case to hold EA cartridges on the case's description.

#27 Backlash

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 04:50 PM

I think that EA is printed on the case to indicate that it will accomodate the EA-style Genesis cartridges, which were different from the standard Genesis cartridges. They mention the ability of the case to hold EA cartridges on the case's description.


That makes sense. The case does have little markings for Super Nintendo, CDs, N64, etc to tell you how to position the game (just in case you're a total idiot, I guess).

#28 WildWop

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Can I exchange scans for cases? That would rock...
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#29 slash000

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Posted 21 May 2005 - 05:43 AM

I'd like to make some measurements and templates for this project once I get the cases in myself.


Although, the measurements BackLash listed there are pretty close to the ones I already made.

So, if you want BackLash, you can try printing one of the covers I have posted. Although... I really want to make exact measurements and prints when I have the actual cases for myself.

Anyway, this project's about to take off.

#30 Backlash

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Posted 21 May 2005 - 04:58 PM

YEah, I'll probabky take a shot at printing out one of yours and maybe try to adjust it until it fits. I would have done it yesterday while I was at work (and have access to nice printers - no printer at home), but CAG was down all afternoon :(