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Kutaragi: The PS3 will be [damn] expensive


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#1 alongx

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Posted 22 July 2005 - 10:23 PM

http://www.gamespot....ws_6129611.html

Then Kutaragi issued a somewhat ominous warning. "I'm not going to reveal [the PS3's] price today. I'm going to only say that it'll be expensive," he stated.


That's about all I have to say about that.
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#2 smalien1

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Posted 22 July 2005 - 10:25 PM

http://www.gamespot....ws_6129611.html



That's about all I have to say about that.


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#3 Dr Mario Kart

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Posted 22 July 2005 - 10:27 PM

sometimes I think they [Sony] are insane.

Shortage of dev kits? Money says NIS doesnt have one.

#4 Nirvanaguy777

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Posted 22 July 2005 - 10:27 PM

Oh poo.


Seconded, hopefully it will be worth it.
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#5 ryanbph

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Posted 23 July 2005 - 01:06 AM

10 year life cycle...thats interesting...while I am all for, not having to buy a new console, right when developers seem to be hitting their stride..but 10 years

#6 pthagonal

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Posted 23 July 2005 - 02:13 AM

It sucks if really true. I cant imagine them going over $350, but then again, people will still buy it no matter what they launch at. I may be waiting longer than i thought for this gen...

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Posted 23 July 2005 - 05:00 AM

10 year life cycle...thats interesting...while I am all for, not having to buy a new console, right when developers seem to be hitting their stride..but 10 years

By 10 years they mean how the current PS1s are still around. The console will probably have a regular 5 year mainstay, then be put on the back-burner for 5 years. No way will the PS3 be considered high tech in 5 years, let alone 10.

Anyway this announcement put the final nail in the coffin. I won't be picking up a PS3 until a price drop happens. I wanted one at launch but that doesn't seem possible. I'll just stick with the 360 till the PS3 hits the 300 to 350 range.

#8 Quackzilla

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Posted 23 July 2005 - 06:03 AM

Well, the multi core cell ship will improve over the years as developers get better at programming for it.

A ten year lifecycle is not that unrealistic.

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Posted 23 July 2005 - 06:05 AM

Well, the multi core cell ship will improve over the years as developers get better at programming for it.

A ten year lifecycle is not that unrealistic.


I know you are a Sony fanboy, but how can you actually say that? You can't actually believe that.

#10 Ozzkev55

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Posted 23 July 2005 - 06:48 AM

Well its price is fairly predictable, most info so far has pointed to around $400 - $500

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Posted 23 July 2005 - 07:46 AM

Well, the multi core cell ship will improve over the years as developers get better at programming for it.

A ten year lifecycle is not that unrealistic.

You must be crazy. In 5 years you'll see PCs that will make the PS3 look like a dinky PS1 (by today's standards). Hell once intel and apple finally pull out the new G6 (or whatever the processor will be called), you'll have a machine on par if not better than any PS3 and thats only a year or so away. Multi-core CPUs (kind of how the XBOX 360 is and the top of the line G5 towers are) will be extremely mainstream with in the next 2 to 3 years (Among high end PCs and Macs). Hell current G5 towers are the 360s Alpha kits (with some changes). If a computer currently out can pump out 30% of a next gen console's power imagine what they'll be able to do next year and the year after that. PC usually catch up to consoles within 6 months to a year after the console's release (Apples tend to be slightly ahead technology wise, but lately they've been lagging due to the G5's dissapointing performance). Not only that but all the next Gen consoles' CPUs are based off an already outdated chip (the power pc G5 processor). I will admit the Power PC processors in these next gen consoles have been revamped into beast (but then again thats by today's standard) Better things are on their way soon. Don't be a fool to sony's or microsoft's hype.

#12 spoo

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Posted 23 July 2005 - 07:47 AM

As a CAG how can we put our faith in Sony anymore? We can't after the PSP and now the PS3. I put my faith in Sony with the PSX because N64 was expensive carts and Sega was being dumb. Now I must find another fix for my cheap ass games. Blu-Ray’s are going to be about $10 more then DVD and the system is going to be mega-bucks. Sorry Sony but my hard earned cash is going elsewhere.
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#13 praystation

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Posted 25 July 2005 - 06:32 AM

JUst done with school and got a job , And I will be making $72 an hour. Expensive? Let's bring ot on.
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#14 zionoverfire

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Posted 25 July 2005 - 06:40 AM

JUst done with school and got a job , And I will be making $72 an hour. Expensive? Let's bring ot on.


I think you forgot to move the decimal place over once more.;)

#15 Icen

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Posted 25 July 2005 - 06:42 AM

Judging from his spelling and grammar I would have to agree...

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#16 zionoverfire

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Posted 25 July 2005 - 06:46 AM

Judging by his spelling and grammar I would have to agree...


I was just going off his user name. Normally you don't have to pray to the mightly sony gods with that kind of cash in your pocket.

#17 Mana Knight

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Posted 25 July 2005 - 02:14 PM

As a CAG how can we put our faith in Sony anymore? We can't after the PSP and now the PS3. I put my faith in Sony with the PSX because N64 was expensive carts and Sega was being dumb. Now I must find another fix for my cheap ass games. Blu-Ray’s are going to be about $10 more then DVD and the system is going to be mega-bucks. Sorry Sony but my hard earned cash is going elsewhere.

Then you'll be missing all the good games, because Sony usually has over 50% of them. I still find both Xbox and GC disappointing. PS2 was fantastic.

I know you are a Sony fanboy, but how can you actually say that? You can't actually believe that.

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#18 Quackzilla

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Posted 25 July 2005 - 03:03 PM

You must be crazy. In 5 years you'll see PCs that will make the PS3 look like a dinky PS1 (by today's standards). Hell once intel and apple finally pull out the new G6 (or whatever the processor will be called), you'll have a machine on par if not better than any PS3 and thats only a year or so away. Multi-core CPUs (kind of how the XBOX 360 is and the top of the line G5 towers are) will be extremely mainstream with in the next 2 to 3 years (Among high end PCs and Macs). Hell current G5 towers are the 360s Alpha kits (with some changes). If a computer currently out can pump out 30% of a next gen console's power imagine what they'll be able to do next year and the year after that. PC usually catch up to consoles within 6 months to a year after the console's release (Apples tend to be slightly ahead technology wise, but lately they've been lagging due to the G5's dissapointing performance). Not only that but all the next Gen consoles' CPUs are based off an already outdated chip (the power pc G5 processor). I will admit the Power PC processors in these next gen consoles have been revamped into beast (but then again thats by today's standard) Better things are on their way soon. Don't be a fool to sony's or microsoft's hype.

My 2 year old PC, running Half-Life 2, already puts the Killzone 2 demo to shame.

If you think consoles are ever going to compete with PCs in terms of graphics you must be a looney.

The cell chip is a complex multi core processsor. The first generation of games will use it like a regular single core chip, and each successive generation will better utilize the hardware capabilities.

It is a totally different type of technology than the last generation.

#19 jkam

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Posted 25 July 2005 - 03:12 PM

Did anyone really think this system would come cheap? The specs kind of geared me up a bit for a steep price. I'll probably just hold off and finish my backlog of games before buying one.

#20 Quackzilla

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Posted 25 July 2005 - 03:16 PM

I am thinking of waiting for the first price drop, but I am remembering how first generation DVD players were $400, and the PS3 plays Blu-Ray movies AND next generation games, and it is probably going to be $400.

I guess it all depends on how much cash I have then, and if I have a job (I'll be in college, I might not even have time to play it when it's released so that is a whole different factor).

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Posted 25 July 2005 - 06:37 PM

My 2 year old PC, running Half-Life 2, already puts the Killzone 2 demo to shame.

If you think consoles are ever going to compete with PCs in terms of graphics you must be a looney.

The cell chip is a complex multi core processsor. The first generation of games will use it like a regular single core chip, and each successive generation will better utilize the hardware capabilities.

It is a totally different type of technology than the last generation.

You must be on crack son. Killzone 2 looks like 10 times better than half-life 2. Hell unless your 2 year old pc is some kind of super computer (or you modded it to be on par with more recent PCs) there's no way way you'll have graphics on par (with killzone 2 or making the most of half-life 2). Your full of bull bro. Sorry you have no clue what your talking about. Hell the new graphics cards in these next gen consoles aren't even available on the market yet (only one card that based on the next gen console's GPU is out and that card still isn't as powerful as them). You really need to stop telling such tall tails, its getting pretty annoying.

#22 Quackzilla

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Posted 25 July 2005 - 06:44 PM

Did you even lookat the Killzone 2 trailer? Sure, the game looks neat but the graphics aen't that good. Maybe best console graphics ever, but HL2 on my computer (P4 2.66GHz, 9700PRO 128MB, 1024MB DDR) looks a lot better.

It has higher polygon models, more detailed world textures, and smoother animations.

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Posted 25 July 2005 - 06:50 PM

I've seen far too many anecdotes about people being burned by Sony's launch hardware, from DRE to dead pixels, back to the days of turning the console upside down to get it to play.

Will I buy a PS3? Damn skippy. Will I wait for a price drop? Damn skippy.

Will I wait for them to fix the inevitable hardware problems? Of course not, since they've never given any indication that they recognize them, after three systems (well, in the case of the PSP, they recognize the problem as "completely normal").

I'm going to wait until the christmas *after* launch, although I might pick up titles that I find to be "must haves" prior to that.

The one thing I'll give Sony credit for is making certain (with the PSP, anyway) that they were satisfying customers, and not the reseller asshole aftermarket. $800 PSPs were only around after the Japanese launch, and died the moment they hit the United States. I hope, if this is already expensive, that they will do the same thing with the PS3; otherwise, can you see $1200 PS3s on eBay? Certainly.
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#24 Quackzilla

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Posted 25 July 2005 - 06:54 PM

Almost all of the problems with the PS2 were caused by inproper lubrication of the laser arm. The newer versions have a double reinforced laser arm that will work even if it's unlubricated.

They will fix it for free, and I doubt they will make the same mistake twice.

#25 opportunity777

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Posted 25 July 2005 - 07:00 PM

Almost all of the problems with the PS2 were caused by inproper lubrication of the laser arm. The newer versions have a double reinforced laser arm that will work even if it's unlubricated.

They will fix it for free, and I doubt they will make the same mistake twice.


Knowing Sony there will be some new mistakes to deal with ... :)

I will probably end up buying all three consoles eventhough I really don't care for my Cube, but I will not be buying them anytime soon.

#26 mykevermin

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Posted 25 July 2005 - 07:01 PM

Agreed. I'm sure they'll come up with all new mistakes due to all new technology.

C'mon, quack. The sky is blue; the president is a buffoon; mail doesn't come on Sundays; Sony's systems fall the Fuck apart. There's no need to deny reality here. Will it be a great system? Surely. Will it have immense problems? Sho' nuff.
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Posted 25 July 2005 - 07:06 PM

Did you even lookat the Killzone 2 trailer? Sure, the game looks neat but the graphics aen't that good. Maybe best console graphics ever, but HL2 on my computer (P4 2.66GHz, 9700PRO 128MB, 1024MB DDR) looks a lot better.

It has higher polygon models, more detailed world textures, and smoother animations.

Yes I have. I've seen it on a high end PC. I'm not saying HL2 isn't impressive but Killzone 2 looked even more impressive. Face it HL2 was developed with older Technology, while Killzone 2 is going to be made on more recent tech. I'm still contempt with my statement that Killzone 2 looks more impressive than HL2. Your saying a game running on a lower spec machine then the PS3 is more impressive then a game thats suppose to represent what a more modern machine can do. Your just being foolish (after all I don't think Killzone 2 was running in real time, but it was showing off what the PS3 can do when its out).

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Posted 25 July 2005 - 07:10 PM

The Ps1 lived probably eight years... 1995 - 2003, right? Ps1 still had decent titles coming out well into Ps2's life.

A 10 year life span isn't unrealistic for the Ps3, but that is as long as they don't go ahead and release a Ps4 - that's what will kill the Ps3, not it's own technology.

At least that's what I think...
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Posted 25 July 2005 - 07:16 PM

Did you even lookat the Killzone 2 trailer? Sure, the game looks neat but the graphics aen't that good. Maybe best console graphics ever, but HL2 on my computer (P4 2.66GHz, 9700PRO 128MB, 1024MB DDR) looks a lot better.

It has higher polygon models, more detailed world textures, and smoother animations.

The Killzone trailer was pre-rendered, scripted bullshit, but I'll still beg to differ about Half-Life 2 looking better, compared to what was shown in the trailer, anyway, which is of course not the actual game. I personally don't think HL2 is all that earth-shaking.

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#30 Quackzilla

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Posted 25 July 2005 - 07:17 PM

The Killzone trailer was pre-rendered, scripted bullshit, but I'll still beg to differ about Half-Life 2 looking better. I personally don't think HL2 is all that earth-shaking.

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