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#1 ph33r m3

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 02:41 AM

Super Bowl Special. Put down your picks and discuss.
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#2 Woltaire

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 02:45 AM

I think the Steelers have a good chance, besides I think the BUS deserves a championship:applause:

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 02:49 AM

I think the Steelers have a good chance, besides I think the BUS deserves a championship:applause:


Agreed on both points.

#4 ScottsUSERID

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 03:00 AM

As Usual, total Disrespect for the seahawks, a team that hasnt allowed aregulation 100 yard rusher all year and won a playoff game with a negative 3 turnover margin.

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 03:06 AM

You were hating on the 'Hawks in the last thread. What changed your mind?

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 03:09 AM

Not hating on them, just more nervous then anything. Their defense makes me sweat bullets. They get too consertive when their up. Wistrom and Fisher played a great game containing the outside. I think the Hawks Defense Pretty much will have the same gameplan against the Skins' since in reality, the panthers and the skins have the same basic offensive formula. That would be One great receiver plus a Running game.

The Hawks need to put up 28 to win tho, I feel the Hawks have the secondary to contain Steve Smith Better. With a better offense , I believe the hawks have the receivers and a TE to stretch the field better again the defense of the panthers.

i think its gonna be roughly a 28-24 ish game.

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 03:19 AM

I think Pittsburgh is going all the way this year.

Sorry, I still don't think anyone from the NFC has a chance.

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 03:24 AM

I would have to mostly agree with your assessment. Except, the Panther's running game will likely be anemic or completely absent. It all depends on 37. Does he have the fortitude to be clutch player? He's been weakest in the playoff games. As good as Hasselbeck is, the Hawks need balance for the system to work. Either Shawn has to step it up, or they have to let momo do what he does best. (Which is not between the tackles, the Power O blast that Alexander is so good at). They'll need to run more stretch plays, more sweeps, and reverses.

One thing I found telling about the 'Hawks passing game is that now that D-Jack is back, JJ, B-Easy, DJ and P-Dub aren't getting nearly the looks. (Though admittedly, P-Dub was inactive) I'd like to see Matt spread it around a little more, or the Black Cats will load up on D-Jack, whereas yesterday the 'Skins were spreading out the coverage. Hopefully, Matt, Gil and Holmgren are factoring that into the gameplan for next Sunday.

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 03:33 AM

I think it's going to be Pittsburgh vs Panthers for the superbowl with pitt winning it.

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 03:35 AM

I'm going to stick by the prediction I made 8-10 weeks or so ago... Broncos/Seahawks.

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 03:39 AM

Fuck the Steelers for ending the Bengals season this year.
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#12 ScottsUSERID

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 03:48 AM

I would have to mostly agree with your assessment. Except, the Panther's running game will likely be anemic or completely absent. It all depends on 37. Does he have the fortitude to be clutch player? He's been weakest in the playoff games. As good as Hasselbeck is, the Hawks need balance for the system to work. Either Shawn has to step it up, or they have to let momo do what he does best. (Which is not between the tackles, the Power O blast that Alexander is so good at). They'll need to run more stretch plays, more sweeps, and reverses.

One thing I found telling about the 'Hawks passing game is that now that D-Jack is back, JJ, B-Easy, DJ and P-Dub aren't getting nearly the looks. (Though admittedly, P-Dub was inactive) I'd like to see Matt spread it around a little more, or the Black Cats will load up on D-Jack, whereas yesterday the 'Skins were spreading out the coverage. Hopefully, Matt, Gil and Holmgren are factoring that into the gameplan for next Sunday.


There wasnt anyhole to pass the football saturday, the Redskins had everything covered. The Only thing that opened it up for the hawks was holmgren telling hasselbeck to scramble a little more to open up those passing lanes.

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 03:59 AM

I think if it's gonna be Carolina's time that it all depends on how Jake Delhomme plays. So far in the playoffs he has been on, but when the running game gets shut down and he keeps holding onto the ball looking for Steve Smith to force the ball into he can really make some bad turnovers. The good thing tonight is that he was looking to mix it up to additional targets along with Smith. But with Foster out and Peppers hurt and traveling to Seattle it'll be a big challenge. Hopefully Alexander will be fully recovered and it'll be a good game. Seattle really doesn't have any good game film from these playoff games on how to stop Carolina because they destroyed both the Giants & Bears defenses.

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 04:06 AM

I was dreading tonight all week long.

While I've seen the Steelers have excellent season after excellent season under Cowher come playoffs, well, 1-4 in AFC Championship games and 0-1 in Super Bowls says a whole lot.

Regardless of the fears I had of what Indianapolis could do I had to stick this one out. If you had told me we'd hold the Colts to 3 points after 3 quarters I would have thought you were on crack. If you told me we wouldn't have a 100 yard rusher but would at one point have an 18 point lead? Yeah, see that crack statement.

If you told me on a game tying field goal Vanderjagt would look like he was trying to peg a fan in the corner of the end zone for flipping him off? Oh yeah, that crack statement again. Last but not least.... non- called pass interference? Three Indy linemen get up and touch the offensive linemen on the heads with no call? An interception called back after a "football move"? Oh yeah, this crew deserves to be fired.

There's a reason they play the games and don't decide them on paper with statistics and probability. USC discovered it the hard way and so did Indy.

While I have a ton of respect for Tony Dungy (As a superb player with the Steelers and as a classy head coach.) he was outcoached today by Cowher, LeBeau and Wisenhut.

Team of Destiny are my beloved Steelers? I've seen too many blown AFC Championship ganes in the last 25 years 84, 94, 98, 01 and 05. Until they're holding a Lombardi Trophy I'm never going to think it's a given.

For all the Steelers fans and you bandwagon jumpers remember this list.

The last time the Steelers won the Super Bowl.....

- ESPN didn't exist, neither did FOX.
- Cable was a way to get better reception.
- AT&T was just "The Phone Company".
- Pac Man hadn't started its "fever" yet.
- Sister Sledge had a recent hit.
- The Empire hadn't stricken back.
- Ben Roethlisberger hadn't been born.
- The big product launches were the Big Gulp and the Walkman.
- Diff'rent Strokes, Real People and The Love Boat weren't considered bad TV.
- Christopher Cross won 5 Grammys.
- There were American hostages in Iran.
- Jimmy Carter was President.
- There was still a USSR and no U.S. Olympic Team went to Moscow.
- The Rooney family hadn't told Terry Bradshaw an NFL quarterback would never be worth $500,000 a year yet.

You get the picture.

Always a fan but I'll believe it when I see it.

BTW, Denver is toast.
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Posted 16 January 2006 - 04:09 AM

Nick Goings has been a solid runner so I don't see the Panthers losing anything in the running game. If anything, Nick Goings is a smash mouth runner and will hit you in the mouth so I don't think the Panthers lhave any problem.

As far as not giving the seahawks any respect, they are good but the panthers are battle tested and have a team that is determined to go places. Jake is lights out in the playoffs and the panthers have an excellent defense.

I won't make any prediction in the AFC game because both teams look great, but Pittsburgh is riding high with all the teams they have overcome and I would not want to play them if I was the Broncos.

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 04:09 AM

The Panthers have a better team than they did 2 years ago, while the remaining opposition is not as strong. They can hang with the Steelers or Broncos if they get past Seattle. Carolina has a better defense than Seattle, though they aren't quite as balanced on offense.

The Panthers run game won't suffer much with the loss of Foster. Nick Goings is an above-average RB. I think the game against Chicago was their greatest roadblock to winning it all this year and they got past it.

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 04:25 AM

The Panthers have a better team than they did 2 years ago, while the remaining opposition is not as strong. They can hang with the Steelers or Broncos if they get past Seattle. Carolina has a better defense than Seattle, though they aren't quite as balanced on offense.

The Panthers run game won't suffer much with the loss of Foster. Nick Goings is an above-average RB. I think the game against Chicago was their greatest roadblock to winning it all this year and they got past it.


I'm sure Carolina is worried about losing Foster. He was able to make some plays when the offensive line wasn't able to make big holes for him and he's a guy who can break long runs and help in the passing game. Goings isnt as dynamic but I'm sure they'll figure out some game plan for him. I think the Broncos, Steelers, and Seahawks pose a much greater challenge to Carolina than the Bears did. Carolina's defense didn't look too great against an inexperienced Chicago offense, especially in the second half. Seattle wont be as predictable, and Holmgren has won a Super Bowl so he has some experience with big games.

As far as the AFC is concerned, it's a little harder to predict. Pittsburgh has played great down the stretch and at Cincinatti and Indy but they may be a tired team (much like the skins). I didnt watch too much of Denver during the season, and the Pats just fell apart against them. The biggest advantage they have going for them is playing at home and the biggest disadvantage is Jake Plummer, nuff said.

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 04:40 AM

I think Carolina and Seattle will bring the "A" game on Sunday. Figure that Carolina will have some difficulty with because they lost their running back to a broken ankle. Steve Smith will be a major problem for the Hawks D.

Seattle will be in good hands with Hasslebeck. I think the embarrassment with Green Bay taught him a lesson to use his head and not his instincts. He should this when he had Jurevicius change his route and picked up a big first down. He audibled on 3rd and 3 late in the fourth and hand it off to Mack Strong for 32 on the ground and the helped set up a Josh Brown fieldgoal.

A think the that Alexander will be the X factor in the game. He will be Seattle's ticket to Detroit or an early offseason.

I really see a Denver / Seattle Superbowl. Two former division rivals meeting again in the big dance.

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 04:42 AM

I think Carolina and Seattle will bring the "A" game on Sunday. Figure that Carolina will have some difficulty with because they lost their running back to a broken ankle. Steve Smith will be a major problem for the Hawks D.

Seattle will be in good hands with Hasslebeck. I think the embarrassment with Green Bay taught him a lesson to use his head and not his instincts. He should this when he had Jurevicius change his route and picked up a big first down. He audibled on 3rd and 3 late in the fourth and hand it off to Mack Strong for 32 on the ground and the helped set up a Josh Brown fieldgoal.

A think the that Alexander will be the X factor in the game. He will be Seattle's ticket to Detroit or an early offseason.

I really see a Denver / Seattle Superbowl. Two former division rivals meeting again in the big dance.


I can't see Seattle making the SuperBowl if their special teams plays like they did yesterday.
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Posted 16 January 2006 - 04:42 AM

That interception reversal was the biggest crock of shit I've ever seen. I think it might be the worst call I've ever seen in any sport.

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 04:43 AM

That interception reversal was the biggest crock of shit I've ever seen. I think it might be the worst call I've ever seen in any sport.


The defensive pass interference against the Patriots was bigger I thought.
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Posted 16 January 2006 - 04:49 AM

The defensive pass interference against the Patriots was bigger I thought.


Bigger, maybe (I don't think so) but that is a pure judgment call and is non-reviewable. The interception was clearly made and it was the call on the field so you need indisputable visual evidence to overturn it. He caught the ball, fell to the ground and then on his way back up he lost it. If he just laid there and never tried to advance it and a Colt tagged him down then that would have been an interception - no doubt. He tries to get up and they say incomplete pass? Total bullshit.

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#23 Dante Devil

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 04:51 AM

As far as the AFC is concerned, it's a little harder to predict. Pittsburgh has played great down the stretch and at Cincinatti and Indy but they may be a tired team (much like the skins). I didnt watch too much of Denver during the season, and the Pats just fell apart against them. The biggest advantage they have going for them is playing at home and the biggest disadvantage is Jake Plummer, nuff said.


I think what you said is very insightful. Indy hadn't played in a quite a while. Dungy had them resting for the playoffs. Cincy lost Carson Palmer so quickly, one can only imagine what type of game it would have been if Palmer had not been injured. Denver is a different type of team. They seem more like a smash mouth type football team. I have a feeling Denver will give the Steelers a bloody lip.

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 06:02 AM

Pick up the Steelers blitz and they are very beatable. Denver's offensive line will be able to do that with the combination of the running game. The Colts tried to ignore Edgerrin James early in the game and because of that got blitzed every play.
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Posted 16 January 2006 - 07:28 AM

Very sad that my Bears lost, but the Panthers are my second favorite team, so its still all good. Anyways I'm pretty sure its going to be Panthers vs. Denver and Panthers winning.



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#26 ScottsUSERID

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 08:58 AM

man no body at all likes seattle, its so hard as a fan to get into it. Even out here on sports talk radio all people do is call in with the smashing. screw em.

#27 DJSteel

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 10:56 AM

i think Seattle has a chance with Foster not playing but the problem is that they got to cover Steve Smith...

my review of this weekend....

Seattle punched Washington in the mouth defensively.. i don't think anyone would have guessed that would have happened. Seattle defense outplayed Washington's and Washington's offense played too conservatively and desperately need another OC.

Denver beat New England soundly. Brady tried his hardest to get them the victory but you can't fumble 3 times and win. That was tough to deal with. Jake Plummer surprisingly looked cool under pressure and Champ Bailey came up with probably the biggest play of the post season...

Steelers smacked it to the Colts... problem is it shouldn't have been that close. the non-called pass-interference and the int reversal were the two worst calls of the year with the latter being the worst I ever saw. My Steelers stunned everyone with how well Ben was throwing the ball...Go Steelers!!

Both Carolina and Chicago surprised me big time... I couldn't beleive Carolina's offense dropped 29 on Chicago.. and I couldn't beleive Chicago's OFFENSE kept them in that game... Chicago played a totally uncharacteristic game for them...Carolina vs Seattle should be a great Champ. game
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Posted 16 January 2006 - 01:14 PM

Man, too bad about DeShaun Foster.

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#29 DJSteel

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 01:21 PM

Man, too bad about DeShaun Foster.


yeah it sort of gives an edge to Seattle..but not by much because I think Alexander will be timid after his concussion...
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#30 ScottsUSERID

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Posted 16 January 2006 - 02:23 PM

yeah it sort of gives an edge to Seattle..but not by much because I think Alexander will be timid after his concussion...


Maybe he wont remember how much he sucks.