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So, I got called a "****er lover" for listening to Coltrane


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#1 Reality's Fringe

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 03:56 PM

I was dropping off some biographies that I had used for a midterm essay and had my mp3 player set to "random sweetness". I pulled up to a stoplight bumping "Blue Train" when, in the rusty pickup next to me, this skinny, greasy, pock-marked white guy in a dirty t-shirt yelled "Nigger-lover!" as the light turned green. I only had time to get out a "Fuck you, redneck!" before he was out of earshot instead of the long rant I wanted to go into. I just thought I'd post because it's never happened to me before, and the last artist I'd expect them to equate racial shortcomings to would be a great jazz artist. I hate white trash.
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Posted 10 March 2006 - 04:01 PM

Where do you live? You always have to be careful with rednecks, because they will not hesitate to get out of their truck to kick some ass.

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 04:01 PM

\m/COLTRANE\m/

So PAD drives a pick up, huh?

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 04:05 PM

\m/COLTRANE\m/

So PAD drives a pick up, huh?


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Posted 10 March 2006 - 04:12 PM

Where do you live? You always have to be careful with rednecks, because they will not hesitate to get out of their truck to kick some ass.


Ohio. I mean, I live in a pretty shitty blue-collar town where I know the "good-ol' boys" have a problem with all "them colored people", but it's still one of those things you don't expect. As for rednecks, yeah, they like to fight, but if you've seen as many as I have you'd know they're mostly malnourished and weak(especially this guy). They just don't mind spending a night in lock-up.
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#6 Storamin

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 04:22 PM

there are some people who aren't really worth listening to.

one would be the redneck.

two would be coltrane. (just kidding, i love jazz)
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Posted 10 March 2006 - 04:36 PM

Where do you live? You always have to be careful with rednecks, because they will not hesitate to get out of their truck to kick some ass.


a true redneck walks nowhere without his trusty shotgun... so tread carefully.

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 04:46 PM

it's still one of those things you don't expect


The anti-defamation league did a study a few years back, in which they listed 8 common racist stereotypes of blacks (i.e., "Blacks are less intelligent," "Blacks are lazier than whites," etc). 75% of respondents selected at least one answer as being "true," and 50% selected two or more.

If you don't expect it, you're a fool and lying to yourself.

Now, if you're comparing "overt racism" to the more subtle modern variant, then perhaps you have a point: while we *think* we're past "nigger lover," we aren't past blanket statments such as "blacks don't want to work."

And, living half a mile south of Cincinnati, I know that good ol' boydom of which you speak.

EDIT: Coltrane is always a good choice, especially to drown out the sounds of Toby Keith mixed with a no-muffler automobile coming from the pick-m-up truck next to you.
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Posted 10 March 2006 - 04:51 PM

The anti-defamation league did a study a few years back, in which they listed 8 common racist stereotypes of blacks (i.e., "Blacks are less intelligent," "Blacks are lazier than whites," etc). 75% of respondents selected at least one answer as being "true," and 50% selected two or more.

If you don't expect it, you're a fool and lying to yourself.

Now, if you're comparing "overt racism" to the more subtle modern variant, then perhaps you have a point: while we *think* we're past "nigger lover," we aren't past blanket statments such as "blacks don't want to work."

And, living half a mile south of Cincinnati, I know that good ol' boydom of which you speak.


Actually, I meant it's something you don't expect to happen to you when you pull up to a stoplight trying to get to the local library(or "Lie-Berry", in the local tongue) in the same way you wouldn't expect a guy to throw a cup of his man-sauce on you while shopping at Kroger. Furthermore, Coltrane is one of those people that you just wouldn't expect to be equated to "evil black music" as, say, some type of gangsta rap. I'm glad they got to me before it went into "Luv 4 Dem Gangstas" by Eazy E.:lol:
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#10 mykevermin

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 04:53 PM

Actually, I meant it's something you don't expect to happen to you when you pull up to a stoplight trying to get to the local library in the same way you wouldn't expect a guy to throw a cup of his man-sauce on you while shopping at Kroger. Furthermore, Coltrane is one of those people that you just wouldn't expect to be equated to "evil black music" as, say, some type of gangsta rap. I'm glad they got to me before it went into "Luv 4 Dem Gangstas" by Eazy E.:lol:


Funny thing about stop lights; people seem to be very willing to express their opinion, knowing they can make a quick and relatively anonymous getaway (like flaming on the internet, but with worse milage).

I agree that Coltrane is no Chuck D, but for some people, if it ain't David Allen Coe, well, it's them spook tunes.
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Posted 10 March 2006 - 04:59 PM

I agree that Coltrane is no Chuck D, but for some people, if it ain't David Allen Coe, well, it's them spook tunes.


:lol: I have to admit I'm guilty of stereotyping the rednecks as well. I never would have expected them to know that what I was listening to was by a black artist. I guess you really do learn something new everyday.
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Posted 10 March 2006 - 05:46 PM

maybe it was just a random sensless statement. i know ive yelled some shit out windows on the way home from the bar. he couldve just been being a dumb ass.

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 05:48 PM

Running through stops signs and listening to colored people music while screaming "F*ck you" out your windows... boy you aint right.
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Seriously though, good taste... that redneck was probably made that his favorite wrestler was defeated last night or something.

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 05:51 PM

That story is hilarious. There are so many fucking nutjobs running around out there...

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 06:00 PM

And they say racism is dead...

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 06:05 PM

:lol: I have to admit I'm guilty of stereotyping the rednecks as well. I never would have expected them to know that what I was listening to was by a black artist. I guess you really do learn something new everyday.

He's probably a closet fan. He found himself humming along, and to maintain his redneck rep he felt obligated to yell something defamatory. :lol:

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 06:06 PM

:lol: I have to admit I'm guilty of stereotyping the rednecks as well. I never would have expected them to know that what I was listening to was by a black artist. I guess you really do learn something new everyday.

What's wrong with stereotyping rednecks? It's a behavior pattern, not anything intrinsic.

And they say racism is dead...

Who said that?!
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Posted 10 March 2006 - 06:12 PM

in the same way you wouldn't expect a guy to throw a cup of his man-sauce on you while shopping at Kroger. :lol:


Does this happen often?

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 06:39 PM

What's wrong with stereotyping rednecks? It's a behavior pattern, not anything intrinsic.
Who said that?!


Hasn't jeff foxworthy been accused of stereotyping rednecks? Or was it just stereotyping southerners as rednecks?
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Posted 10 March 2006 - 07:26 PM

Does this happen often?


Actually, I believe it did happen recently, but I'll be damned if I remember where. I'm sure the girl it happened to was taken by surprise. As for it being just a random comment (thagoat), I don't believe it was. It was a rusty red pickup that had a pair of those rubber testicles hanging from it, and it had a couple of stickers on it that I couldn't quite make out. Not to mention they were clearly in their fourties. This week has been playing itself out oddly for me. Maybe it's a sign?
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Posted 10 March 2006 - 07:31 PM

Last week, my area had one of those wonderfully clear days where the only logical step is to drive around with your window down kickin' some rad tunes. I had Clutch playing, and some guy shouted some shit at me at a stoplight. Probably something to the effect of "turn that down, you're gonna anger up my wife's diabetes" or something.

I didn't really hear him that well, I was too busy listening to Clutch.:lol:

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 08:00 PM

Thats shitty when people can't look past color to see genius.

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 10:07 PM

I'm surprised the guy even knew the music was from a black person. You could have probably been playing Art Pepper and he still would have said the same thing without knowing any better.


Or better yet, bump "The Realest ******" by 50 Cent, Eminem and Biggie while sporting two confederate flags. That'll Fuck 'em up even more. :lol:

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 10:10 PM

Or better yet, bump "The Realest ******" by 50 Cent, Eminem and Biggie while sporting two confederate flags. That'll Fuck 'em up even more. :lol:


You don't know how often I see this kind of thing. I mean, hey, you wanna be a bigot? Fine. Noone with a valid opinion will listen to you anyways, and you certainly wouldn't be the first. But at least be consistent.

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 10:17 PM

You don't know how often I see this kind of thing. I mean, hey, you wanna be a bigot? Fine. Noone with a valid opinion will listen to you anyways, and you certainly wouldn't be the first. But at least be consistent.


Jazz is such universal music. I have listened to Jazz from America, the UK, Japan. I almost wish people could be forced to live in another culture at least once in their life to see that people aren't that much different from each other.

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 10:43 PM

Jazz is such universal music. I have listened to Jazz from America, the UK, Japan. I almost wish people could be forced to live in another culture at least once in their life to see that people aren't that much different from each other.


Eh, you could save so many people the time and money by showing them the Harmony Korine films "Kids" and "Gummo" back to back.
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Posted 10 March 2006 - 11:13 PM

I never know what to make of shit like this when it happens to me. I want to (and usually do) verbally tear them a new one in return, but I sometimes wonder if the correct answer to "Nigger lover!" isn't a laugh, and "So?"

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 11:22 PM

I never know what to make of shit like this when it happens to me. I want to (and usually do) verbally tear them a new one in return, but I sometimes wonder if the correct answer to "Nigger lover!" isn't a laugh, and "So?"


There is never a correct answer. People so woefully stupid will never be swayed by intelligence. The only thing that will change their minds is a life altering event in which their life depends or someone they hate. Even then it isn't always going to change someone.

I don't have a problem with people voicing bigotry. Free speech allows people to make total asses of themselves. Acting on it is grounds for me beating someone's ass though, and I'm as calm and well-mannered a person as you will ever meet.

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Posted 10 March 2006 - 11:24 PM

Now, if you're comparing "overt racism" to the more subtle modern variant...


Is that kinda like how you call them "blacks"? ;)

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