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#1 Grave_Addiction

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Posted 26 March 2006 - 09:44 PM

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#2 shieryda

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Posted 27 March 2006 - 02:22 PM

I'm just waiting for The Ultimate Fighter 3 to start...

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Posted 27 March 2006 - 04:32 PM

that Arlovski vs, Slyvia match is going to be very close. And I think Griffin will kick Ortiz's ass.
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Posted 27 March 2006 - 05:19 PM

You guys gotta check out this fight between Kimbo and Gannon. This is a pretty damn good fight.


That almost didn't look real. Those guys were just going at it! Total chaos ensued when the big white guy starting throwing those knees. Those are two tough-as-nails guys.

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Posted 27 March 2006 - 10:01 PM

Do you know much about either fighter?

Kimbo is an underground streetboxer, and Gannon is an MMA fighter. Kimbo only fights under specific rules that only allow for stand-up punching. Had this been under MMA rules, Gannon would have absolutely obliterated Kimbo in a matter of seconds.

Still, Gannon beat Kimbo at his own game. Very good brawl, though.

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Posted 28 March 2006 - 02:23 PM

There are a few videos out there featuring Kimbo. I watched a couple more yesterday.

Here's the event card for April 6, on Ultimate Fight Night:

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Posted 28 March 2006 - 02:58 PM

odd, i was gonna start an mma thread today... i like it
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Posted 28 March 2006 - 03:26 PM

I like Thiago Alvez but he is still learning very good fighter IMO. Also Nick Diaz i like how he fights and his ground game its great. I'm going for Andrei he made Tim silvia look like an ass the first time around.
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Posted 28 March 2006 - 03:38 PM

Do you know much about either fighter?

Kimbo is an underground streetboxer, and Gannon is an MMA fighter. Kimbo only fights under specific rules that only allow for stand-up punching. Had this been under MMA rules, Gannon would have absolutely obliterated Kimbo in a matter of seconds.

Still, Gannon beat Kimbo at his own game. Very good brawl, though.


In no way is Gannon an MMA fighter. The only reason he got that 1 fight deal in the UFC cause of the underground fight that he had with kimbo. He came in fighting in the UFC and got his ass beat down. He made it look like a blood sport cause he couldn't defend himself. He's just some cop from Boston. There was a lot of bad publicity regarding that one UFC event that he fought in. Dana White had them take it down from their site and censored it from all the mma sites.

Do you know much about either fighter?

Kimbo is an underground streetboxer, and Gannon is an MMA fighter. Kimbo only fights under specific rules that only allow for stand-up punching. Had this been under MMA rules, Gannon would have absolutely obliterated Kimbo in a matter of seconds.

Still, Gannon beat Kimbo at his own game. Very good brawl, though.


Did you even watch the underground brawl video? You don't even know what you're talking about. Gannon was kneeing Kimbo in the head a few times and Kimbo's team starting whining. Kimbo's team stated, "No kneeing in the head." This is any other "street fight" not even close to MMA. Gannon got in trouble with his police department back in Boston.

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Posted 28 March 2006 - 04:22 PM

You really need to rewatch that fight,, Both guys were winded pretty quickly.. The fight was ok, nothing special.. They both need to work overtime on thier cardio,, Mainly the Black dude,,

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Posted 29 March 2006 - 06:27 AM

So which organization do you guys prefer - UFC or Pride?

I'll be honest, I've watched UFC ever since I was a kid and have never really ventured to watch anything else until recently. And the Pride fighters really have impressed me a lot.

I love Arlovski, Liddell, Tito and Hughes, but I honestly don't think the UFC elite could hang with the likes of Cro Cop, Fedor, Rampage, Sakuraba and many others.

I've been watching videos of all those Pride fighters I listed, and I think everyone of them would pretty much walk through any of the UFC talent.

Oh yeah another question, do you guys think Sakuraba could have beaten Rickson Gracie had the two ever fought?

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Posted 29 March 2006 - 07:25 AM

Sakuraba would beat Gracie. I think Sakuraba would be too creative for Gracie.

I prefer Pride, I am not a huge fan of the cage. Alot of people use it too much, to me it takes away the purity of the moves and styles.
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Posted 29 March 2006 - 08:27 AM

If you've never seen it, this is Chuck Liddell getting his ass handed to him by Rampage. I didn't think Rampage would be so dominant, but once he got Chuck on the ground, alll the Iceman could do is eat wicked elbows to the ribs over and over and over...



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Posted 29 March 2006 - 12:35 PM

If you've never seen it, this is Chuck Liddell getting his ass handed to him by Rampage. I didn't think Rampage would be so dominant, but once he got Chuck on the ground, alll the Iceman could do is eat wicked elbows to the ribs over and over and over...



I actually watched that fight this weekend. I was surprised, too. It would be really interesting if a couple of the Pride elite came over to the UFC for a little while and cleaned house.

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Posted 29 March 2006 - 10:55 PM

Christ watching Chuck's ribs get worked over had me wincing with every hit. After a while he just layed there absorbing punishment yowch! I wouldn't be surprised if he had a couple broken ribs after that fight.

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Posted 30 March 2006 - 08:39 AM

Christ watching Chuck's ribs get worked over had me wincing with every hit. After a while he just layed there absorbing punishment yowch! I wouldn't be surprised if he had a couple broken ribs after that fight.

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It's fucking brutal isn't it? I thought Randy beat Chuck down in their fisrt fight but he didn't totally dominate Chuck like Rampage did. Being a pretty big Chuck fan this fight is tough to watch.

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Posted 30 March 2006 - 09:46 AM

Rampage going to sign with UFC next week just so some of you newbies know.

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Posted 30 March 2006 - 02:59 PM

I remember back in the day, when UFC fighters had to fight in 2-3 matches a night at the early competitions. I wish they'd bring back the round-robin tourney feature.

I think Pride fighters may be tougher, just because there are fewer rules.

I was watching "UFC Unleashed" last night, and Tank Abbott foughter Frank Mir. I was like "Whoa, I remember that Tank guy." He's almost 50 years old now.

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Posted 30 March 2006 - 04:31 PM

So which organization do you guys prefer - UFC or Pride?

I'll be honest, I've watched UFC ever since I was a kid and have never really ventured to watch anything else until recently. And the Pride fighters really have impressed me a lot.

I love Arlovski, Liddell, Tito and Hughes, but I honestly don't think the UFC elite could hang with the likes of Cro Cop, Fedor, Rampage, Sakuraba and many others.

I've been watching videos of all those Pride fighters I listed, and I think everyone of them would pretty much walk through any of the UFC talent.

Oh yeah another question, do you guys think Sakuraba could have beaten Rickson Gracie had the two ever fought?


i think overall pride has the better fighters, but i find it annoying when they put on the freak show fights (like anything involving giant silva). i enjoy the ufc product better, but i usualy order the PPVs for both
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Posted 30 March 2006 - 04:34 PM

Rampage going to sign with UFC next week just so some of you newbies know.


so i hear, and that will be a glorious day. toob ad itll be like a year before the rematch with chuck
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Posted 30 March 2006 - 04:39 PM

I can't wait for the Arlovski and Sylvia fight. Sylvia thinks he is too badass. Arlovski will put him back in his place.

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Posted 30 March 2006 - 11:18 PM

i think overall pride has the better fighters, but i find it annoying when they put on the freak show fights (like anything involving giant silva). i enjoy the ufc product better, but i usualy order the PPVs for both


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Posted 31 March 2006 - 12:37 AM

If you've never seen it, this is Chuck Liddell getting his ass handed to him by Rampage. I didn't think Rampage would be so dominant, but once he got Chuck on the ground, alll the Iceman could do is eat wicked elbows to the ribs over and over and over...


I'm no fan of Chuck but when was this fight? Was it before or after Randy Coture's first fight with Lidell?

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Posted 31 March 2006 - 01:50 AM

I'm no fan of Chuck but when was this fight? Was it before or after Randy Coture's first fight with Lidell?


Since his loss to Rampage, he hasn't lost and has beat Randy twice, Horn, White and Tito.

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Posted 31 March 2006 - 02:12 AM

Since his loss to Rampage, he hasn't lost and has beat Randy twice, Horn, White and Tito.


I was gonna say. Lidell has been fighting unstoppable as of lately. I would love to watch a rematch of this.

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Posted 31 March 2006 - 09:22 AM

I was gonna say. Lidell has been fighting unstoppable as of lately. I would love to watch a rematch of this.


Me too. Hopefully we won't have to wait ages for it.

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Posted 31 March 2006 - 10:39 PM

Rampage going to sign with UFC next week just so some of you newbies know.


Apparently, you're the "newb."

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Posted 02 April 2006 - 06:07 PM

Here are some Youtube links to last night's Bushido 10. There were some big upsets.


Marcus Aurélio vs Takanori Gomi - Pride Bushido 10

Giant Silva vs Ikuhisa Minowa - Pride Bushido 10

Yuki Kondo vs Phil Baroni - Pride Bushido 10

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Posted 07 April 2006 - 01:38 PM

Anyone watch "Ultimate Fight Night" last night on Spike? I thought Rashad Evans looked pretty good at a lower weight. He really needs to work on his submissions and ground work, though.

That Jardine/Bonnar was awesome, but I really felt that Jardine won.

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Posted 07 April 2006 - 04:19 PM

Anyone watch "Ultimate Fight Night" last night on Spike? I thought Rashad Evans looked pretty good at a lower weight. He really needs to work on his submissions and ground work, though.

That Jardine/Bonnar was awesome, but I really felt that Jardine won.


I agree, Jardine was robbed big time. Don't get me wrong, I love Bonnar, but I just thought the wrong man won the fight.

I thought Bonnar had him when he dropped Jardine, but he wasn't able to finish him off.

Did any of you watch The Ultimate Fighter 3 afterward? It looks like there are some pretty good fighters this year. I can't help but like the deaf guy. He seems like a really good guy and very interested in learning as much as he can.

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