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#1 FriskyTanuki

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 02:26 AM

With MGS4 nearing release, please keep articles and links to other sites with spoilers and important info to post just the link with a warning, vague descriptions, and if you must discuss it here, use spoiler tags (
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To be continued.

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#2 whoknows

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 02:27 AM

I'm speechless

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#3 Greetard

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 03:50 AM

Wawaweewa.

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#4 Blind the Thief

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 03:57 AM

This is unsurprising to me. "Wow, the gameplay looks like the trailors!!!1" Big whoop. MGS always does that.


Somebody call me when there's a new trailor.





(oh, you know I'm kidding...I eat up anything MGS. Thanks, OP!)

#5 Mr. Anderson

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 04:06 AM

Looks fantastic!

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#6 FriskyTanuki

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 09:24 AM

http://ps3.ign.com/a...3/733889p1.html

Looks like the new TGS trailer will make up for the short length by including "gameplay sequences." :drool:

#7 js1

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 12:41 PM

This is the ONLY reason I want a ps3! Because I love me some metal gear!

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#8 DarkNessBear

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 06:21 PM

Ive already seen the Gameplay videos.

But im not going to comment until I see a higher resolution one. Or atleast not a shaky cam.
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#9 blueweltall

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 06:27 PM

Damn! This is why I'm getting a PS3!

#10 Michaellvortega

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 06:28 PM

I gave up on Metal gear when Hideo started taking lines while writing the endings to his games. I'll rent this in hopes of a comeback to the greatness of Ps1 Metal Gear solid.
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#11 Morpheus

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 06:34 PM

Add these movies to the main topic:

MGS4 Part 1
http://rapidshare.de...235400.asf.html

http://www.gameklip.com/v/1531
http://users.skynet....SG4.TGS06.1.wmv

MGS4 Part 2
http://rapidshare.de...235401.asf.html

http://www.gameklip.com/v/1532
http://users.skynet....SG4.TGS06.2.wmv

Got them off of GAF. :D

#12 Michaellvortega

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 06:35 PM

Add these movies to the main topic:

MGS4 Part 1
http://rapidshare.de...235400.asf.html

http://www.gameklip.com/v/1531
http://users.skynet....SG4.TGS06.1.wmv

MGS4 Part 2
http://rapidshare.de...235401.asf.html

http://www.gameklip.com/v/1532
http://users.skynet....SG4.TGS06.2.wmv

Got them off of GAF. :D


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#13 cochesecochese

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 11:43 PM

Damn, that looks amazing. Definitely going to be a system-maker.

#14 Blind the Thief

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Posted 22 September 2006 - 12:31 AM

Mgs600.

#15 FriskyTanuki

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Posted 22 September 2006 - 12:34 AM

Add these movies to the main topic:

MGS4 Part 1
http://rapidshare.de...235400.asf.html

http://www.gameklip.com/v/1531
http://users.skynet....SG4.TGS06.1.wmv

MGS4 Part 2
http://rapidshare.de...235401.asf.html

http://www.gameklip.com/v/1532
http://users.skynet....SG4.TGS06.2.wmv

Got them off of GAF. :D

Thanks for the links, but someone on GameSpot uploaded the entire video for viewing, so I linked to that instead. I included links to the videos that can be downloaded, though. Nice job.

#16 FriskyTanuki

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Posted 22 September 2006 - 04:07 AM

Added a link to the official trailer that IGN has uploaded, which has some more to it after the others ended. It is nice to see some humor in this trailer after the others have been depressing to say the least.

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#17 RelentlessRolento

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Posted 22 September 2006 - 05:33 AM

Added a link to the official trailer that IGN has uploaded, which has some more to it after the others ended. It is nice to see some humor in this trailer after the others have been depressing to say the least.

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#18 Blind the Thief

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Posted 22 September 2006 - 05:37 AM

Added a link to the official trailer that IGN has uploaded, which has some more to it after the others ended. It is nice to see some humor in this trailer after the others have been depressing to say the least.

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My guess?
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#19 FriskyTanuki

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Posted 22 September 2006 - 05:52 AM

My guess?

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#20 Blind the Thief

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Posted 22 September 2006 - 06:07 AM

Spoiler


Well,
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#21 DarkNessBear

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Posted 22 September 2006 - 06:28 AM

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#22 Michaellvortega

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Posted 22 September 2006 - 06:32 AM

MGS4s ending is going to be about Solid Snake BECOMING a metal gear unit him self. This is kinda of hinted at in PS2 Metal Gear's Patriots.
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#23 Blind the Thief

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Posted 22 September 2006 - 07:39 AM

Spoiler


Ok, I'm calling it: don't read nay more posts in this thread without watching the trailer, if you care. I'm tired of spoiler tags.


*ahem*


No, Old Snake is not fake. This definitely takes place after MGS2. Kojima has OFFICIALLY said this, and there are elements (an older Ocelot w/ Liquid's hand) that prove it. Do your homework, son.


Michaellvortega - how the HELL is that hinted at? I'd like to hear your take on it...sounds crazy, but I'd like to hear it.

#24 exRounder

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Posted 22 September 2006 - 09:20 AM

I'm thinking Snake does kill himself, like hinted in the E3 '06 trailer, but he is later cloned, making the Young Snake we see in the end of this trailer. After all, legends have to die... to make way for new ones. The only thing is I'm not into the mythos so much to vouch whether or not Old Snake's DNA is cloneable or is prime material to clone to being with, considering he himself is a clone.

#25 Mr Durand Pierre

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Posted 22 September 2006 - 02:42 PM

Just watched the trailer. I totally dug it. Unlike the DMC4 trailer that just looks like DMC3 with prettier graphics, this actually give you a better sense of what the new gameplay elements will be. I totally dug the camo suit, since it takes away from the unrealism of MGS3 where you could change your clothes and face paint instantaneously, and I also really liked being able to hide in a barrel to shield you from bullets, and then roll the barrel into enemies. Neat! It seems to be a natural progression form MGS3: Subsistence and I look forward to what other new mechanics Snake will have to use to survive the urban environment. Also, game sure does look pretty.

On a side note, I really hate that Sony can afford to be complete jackasses, and yet we still feel compelled to buy their products. Damn them!
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#26 Zoglog

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Posted 23 September 2006 - 09:52 AM

God I want to have sex with Snake

#27 zewone

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Posted 23 September 2006 - 10:29 PM

I don't see how people can ever doubt Hideo about his trailers not looking like his gameplay.

#28 Blind the Thief

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Posted 24 September 2006 - 08:31 PM

I don't see how people can ever doubt Hideo about his trailers not looking like his gameplay.


They've been doing it for years, but people never learn. *sigh*

#29 xgrimx

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Posted 24 September 2006 - 10:21 PM

Mmmmm, MGS.

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#30 FriskyTanuki

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Posted 25 September 2006 - 03:47 AM

http://www.gamespot....stories;title;0

Moving on, Kojima took the second half of his presentation to talk about Metal Gear Solid 4. By this time, Konami's booth was crowded by fans like "penguins during spawning period," as Kojima put it. Showing off the new TGS 2006 trailer, Kojima confirmed that all the scenes were created with real-time rendering, similarly to the trailer from last year's TGS. He also mentioned that the Electronic Entertainment Expo trailer from May (also done in real time) will be used as a part of the game's opening sequence when the game is completed.

"We've finally started to figure out the PS3, and we've decided on [MGS4's] game systems," said Kojima. "Back with last year's TGS trailer, we were still trying to learn the PS3's potentials. Now that we've figured out what we want to do, all we have to do now is to create it."

Pointing to the trailer, Kojima talked about the new high-tech camouflage suit that Snake is now wearing, which changes its colors in real time and blends Snake into his environment. The suit is called an "octo-cam," which derives from the words "octopus" and "camouflage." Kojima explained that, while it's very little known, the octopus is one of the sneakiest creatures in nature, and it even beats chameleons when it comes to disguise. While a chameleon can only change its color to match its environment, an octopus can not only mimic its environment color, but also change its shape accordingly.

"The real skill in hiding is to avoid the most obvious places like lockers or underneath tables, because that's the kind of place that people would search first. It's best to hide in places that are already visible, because nobody would care to notice it. For example, people would search a locker that's closed, but they wouldn't check a locker that's already halfway opened. You can just hide in a dead angle of it," said Kojima.

"Up until now in the MGS series, your body was completely hidden [in places like lockers and desks]. But in MGS4, you'll be hiding in a new way. In previous MGS games, you would've hid behind pillars so that enemies couldn't see you. But in MGS4, you'd be standing in front of the pillars and using the octo-cam to blend into it."

Kojima then presented a number of slides and showed how the developers have been traveling all over the world to gather research material for MGS4, including the Middle East, South America, and Eastern Europe. "Snake is going to be going all around the world like Hitchcock or 007 [James Bond]...We've visited normal homes [in villages] as well as various locations like an iron foundry, underground passageways, warships, and military facilities."

The developers are also making sure that the battle tactics in MGS4 are as good as and even better than previous installments. Once again, the developers went under a training course with former SWAT instructor Motosada Mouri, who's been the military adviser for the MGS series and helped out in creating the Close Quarter Combat system (CQC) in MGS3. Visitors to the Konami booth got to see some video of Kojima and other staffs infiltrating a house and putting on camouflage makeup to challenge Mouri on a survival mission.

"I've kept shooting at him, but it was like he's invincible. He caught us all. I think he wears an infinite bandana," Kojima joked to his fans.

There's no question that MGS4 has more detailed graphics than its predecessors, especially due to its shift to high definition on the PS3. But Kojima is adding detail to Snake's movement as much as he is to the game's overall graphics. For example, if a bullet comes flying at Snake's face, he'll automatically sway his head and dodge it. Kojima assured the crowd that it won't be anything that would affect the game's difficulty level.


In terms of realism, Kojima is also taking on a new challenge in MGS4. Up until now, characters in the MGS series were all fictional, and while Snake might've been inspired by John Carpenter's Escape From New York, his look was still original. That's about to take a shift in MGS4. For the first time in the series, the game will feature a group of characters that are all based on real-life people. Kojima avoided giving too much information since the reason behind it is going to be a huge surprise, but he showed off a model sample of actress Yumi Kikuchi, who will be in the game as the "Japanese representative." Kikuchi was hosting Kojima's stage presentation at TGS, and she also plays Kojima's partner role in his Internet radio drama series, "Idea Spy: Operation 2.5."

In terms of music, Kojima confirmed that MGS4's scores will once again be created by Harry Gregson-Williams, who provided the excellent soundtracks for the previous two MGS titles. The TGS 2006 trailer music (titled "Old Snake") was one of his works.

"Gregory-san had a lot of movie projects like The Chronicles of Narnia, so we thought it wouldn't be possible for him [to take on MGS4]. But he's watched the E3 trailer like 50 times, and he said he wanted to do it," said Kojima.

The stage event also gave Kojima the opportunity to show off Metal Gear Solid 4's official logo, which was created by Logan, a production studio famous for its works on TV spots including iPod, Volkswagen, and Xbox.

Logan's Alex Tylevich appeared on stage and commented that Kojima wanted a classic taste to MGS4's logo but with a touch of modernism. Kojima added that he wanted a new look to the logo since he considered this to be the new beginning of the MGS series, as the previous stories have already concluded as a trilogy.

Kojima also revealed that the intro sequence for MGS4 will be done by Logan, replacing Kyle Cooper who worked on the previous two installments. The intro sequence of MGS3 let users control the screen, but according to Kojima, MGS4 is going to be even better and startling. "The customer-service phone line is going to be flooded with calls, and I'm going to get fired," joked Kojima.

Whatever the intro will be like, Kojima's idea behind it was big enough to even get developers jumping out of their seats. According to MGS4 codirector Shuyou Murata, "I totally flipped out when I heard about it. It's going to be like a promotional video, but there's going to be more to it."

Logan's Alex Tylevich was tight about releasing any details, but he gave some first hints, commenting, "It's going to be highly unusual for a video game opening. It's going to be very futuristic."

Metal Gear Solid 4 is slated for a 2007 release, so there's still plenty of time before gamers will get their hands on it. Meanwhile, fans can start preregistering to Konami's new Metal Gear community site that's tentatively named "Metal Gear My Page," scheduled to launch in December. Fans can create their own blogs, communicate with each other, upload contributions, and also collect "Kojima Fan Points" to expand the services they can use.

Kojima also mentioned that MGS4 merchandise is already underway. As one of the products, he introduced an "Old Snake" action figure with moveable parts, which will be released by Medicom Toy. The figure is created under direct supervision of MGS series graphic designer Yoji Shinkawa.

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