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#1 Zoglog

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Posted 03 October 2006 - 09:21 PM

http://blogs.ign.com...32421/#comments

Still, Nintendo says it's going after the mainstream audience so I want to see it really do that from the start, and a $249 price point is not quite mainstream enough. This is especially true when you consider that many Wii games are designed to be enjoyed by multiple players and each separately sold Wii remote will cost buyers $39.99 plus another $19.99 for the nunchuk attachment. Add in a classic controller or two and all of a sudden we're well beyond the $300 price point – just so that mom and dad can play Wario Ware.


great perspective, i'd have to agree.

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Posted 03 October 2006 - 09:25 PM

so what you guys are saying is that it should be $150 and have N64 graphics. great.

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Posted 03 October 2006 - 09:27 PM

I agree with the having to buy more Wiimotes, but thats life.
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Posted 03 October 2006 - 09:29 PM

I agree. It doesn't change my excitement for the system or the fact that I'm getting it on launch day, but I do agree when you look at it from a business perspective. If they were REALLY going after the casual or non-gamer market, the system and controllers would be cheaper. That's why I have never believed that statement. I can see non-gamers saying, "Oh, this looks neat...but $60 total for a new controller? I don't like games THAT much."

#5 botticus

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Posted 03 October 2006 - 09:34 PM

Meh, if it was $200, people would complain that it didn't include two controllers. If it was $200 and included two controllers, people would still complain that controllers were $60. If controllers were $40, suddenly Nintendo is pulling a MS or Sony with their hardware, which would be stupid.

The mainstream consumer does not have the knowledge we do. If they think it looks fun and it's a "cheap" introduction to the world of gaming, they'll bite. THEN they'll buy more controllers, THEN they'll buy a classic controller, etc, etc. The fact that the cost is amortized across multiple purchases is what people aren't focusing on. That makes a big positive difference when compared to a $400-$600 one-time purchase.

Much like how the $600 360 + HD-DVD does not seem bad to me compared to the $600 PS3, because you can pick and choose what you need at what cost.

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Posted 03 October 2006 - 09:35 PM

I dont know how its 3 weeks late. Even with extra controllers, it still beats the PS3 pricewise.
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#7 botticus

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Posted 03 October 2006 - 09:36 PM

I dont know how its 3 weeks late. Even with extra controllers, it still beats the PS3 pricewise.

Because people built themselves up to think it would be $200 and released in October and now it's too expensive and too late.

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Posted 03 October 2006 - 09:43 PM

The only thing I agree with is the expensive controllers. I'm going to spend $60 for another player then $40 for 2 VC controllers. So $100 more just for controllers.
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Posted 03 October 2006 - 09:47 PM

Very stupid argument. So both Xbox 360 and PS3 are out of the mainstream because of the price? They certainly don't say that. $250 is a great price considering the prices of the other consoles. The consumers are not going to know shit about how much the extra controllers cost, they will just buy the system a game or two to start. I'm not sure what the hell the problem is with the release date. It's two days after PS3, OMG NINTENDO IS TEH DEDZORS!!!1
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Posted 03 October 2006 - 09:52 PM

so what you guys are saying is that it should be $150 and have N64 graphics. great.


How'd you get $150? $50 too much would mean that Matt C. is saying the system should've been $200.:-k

I agree with the article though. The system being $250 isn't bad but it's not what I expected. I could've had a Wii plus 2 games for $300 (w/o tax) but now I can only get one game. But it's not that big a deal.

He's definitely right about the controllers. Whereas most 360/PS3 games are only multiplayer online, most Wii games (early ones anyway) look to be multiplayer offline.

So a Wii + 3x Wiimote + 3x Nunchucks = $430 if you want 4 player multiplayer in a household.

The controllers are way overpriced and the idea to sell them sperately is fine but they could've sold both together as well and maybe give the consumer a little break. It's not like Nintendo's losing a ton of money on hardware or anything.

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Posted 03 October 2006 - 09:56 PM

Just... no.

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#12 TimPV3

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Posted 03 October 2006 - 09:57 PM

Because people built themselves up to think it would be $200 and released in October and now it's too expensive and too late.

I don't see how people expected Nintendo to come out and say "we'll release it next week for dirtcheap." People were bitching about Sony making the Spring launch because they hadn't announced launch plans by January (sure it was delayed, but Nintendo only gave two months notice on the Wii, more than was allowed for Sony at the time)

Nintendo will see how mainstream their console is when it's only able to be played in video game stores and not a Wal-Mart, if that's really the case. I've yet to talk to many people who actually know what it is compared to a PS3 or 360, and not confuse the name with weed.

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Posted 03 October 2006 - 09:58 PM

dont like the price --- too bad there are 100s of other people who will be more then happy to buy the system you will past buy

i was thinking about getting one but right now im probally going to past.

250 for system
30 for memory card
50 for dragon warrior game


330 bucks for a system with one game is Too high for me when there are tons of great games coming on the DS and Ps2

the only way i will run out and buy it first day if they had at least 5 classic RPG games to download (earthbound being one)
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Posted 03 October 2006 - 10:08 PM

so what you guys are saying is that it should be $150 and have N64 graphics. great.

Some of the games do have N64 graphics. Have you seen Wii Sports?
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#15 ryanbph

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Posted 03 October 2006 - 10:13 PM

it is overpriced for a souped up cube, but i still want/will get one on launch. I hope they don't drop the ball with the 3rd party excitement over the system

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Posted 03 October 2006 - 10:17 PM

Some of the games do have N64 graphics. Have you seen Wii Sports?


Yes, some of them do, but the system is clearly capable of much more. The games that don't have stunning graphics are meant to appeal to people on a different level -- The simplistic graphics tell non-gamers that the game is simple enough for them to pick up and play.

I have pretty much made my peace with the price. I've known all along that I'm going to pay whatever they want me to pay, but I still think that at a $250 price point, it should have cd/dvd playback, even if there aren't many situations in which I'd use it. I'd rather it be $200, I'd rather it be in my hands now, but I don't think the $50 difference is going to lose them any business. At this point, what I really want from them is to announce Wii Play as a US launch title.

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Posted 03 October 2006 - 10:37 PM

see I can pick paragraphs that prove my point too

"In truth, I think Wii is going to perform phenomenally this holiday. I also believe that it has a solid chance of surprising everybody and gaining much more market share than anticipated, particularly in Japan. Unlike GameCube, I think Wii has a chance for the number one spot. "
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#18 SMMM

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Posted 03 October 2006 - 10:42 PM

How'd you get $150? $50 too much would mean that Matt C. is saying the system should've been $200.:-k


I wasn't referring to Matt as much as the people that were expecting it to be $150 and launching next week since it was just a "suped-up cube".

And the N64 could NOT have pulled off Wii Sports. It's simple, but it's smooth and looks sharp as hell.

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Posted 03 October 2006 - 10:53 PM

it is overpriced for a souped up cube, but i still want/will get one on launch.

I agree

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Posted 03 October 2006 - 11:06 PM

Matt C being one of the biggest Nintendo fanboys this side of the net saying something like that is surprising. I want a Wii, but if all that is worth buying (THIS YEAR) is Zelda TTP then I think I might wait.
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#21 FriskyTanuki

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Posted 03 October 2006 - 11:10 PM

I think he's three weeks too late to make much of a point. This has already been discussed to death, now it's just somebody more popular saying it.

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Posted 03 October 2006 - 11:18 PM

I think he's three weeks too late to make much of a point. This has already been discussed to death, now it's just somebody more popular saying it.



Yes, but that doesnt mean its not true. :D

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Posted 03 October 2006 - 11:20 PM

Irrelevant. The system will still sell phenominally and beat out the PS3 by sheer fact that the amount of Wii units is so much greater than PS3. As for how it stacks up against the 360, I'm still betting on the Wii due to the amount of press it's been getting in the mainstream media these past several months. And for some reason, I don't hear many CAGers waiting to pick up a 360 this holiday season.

So why should Nintendo rush their launch and thus face potential shortages that piss off customers?
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#24 help1

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Posted 03 October 2006 - 11:21 PM

Everyday closer we get to the launch, the more questiosn I develop about the system.

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Posted 03 October 2006 - 11:22 PM

Yes, but that doesnt mean its not true. :D

It's up to what each person feels the system is worth to them. If it's not worth $250, then you're probably not going to buy it. If it is worth it, you will buy it.

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Posted 03 October 2006 - 11:23 PM

Irrelevant. The system will still sell phenominally and beat out the PS3 by sheer fact that the amount of Wii units is so much greater than PS3. As for how it stacks up against the 360, I'm still betting on the Wii due to the amount of press it's been getting in the mainstream media these past several months. And for some reason, I don't hear many CAGers waiting to pick up a 360 this holiday season.

So why should Nintendo rush their launch and thus face potential shortages that piss off customers?


Sorta funny how you think someone who is willing to buy a PS3 will jump on a Wii just because the PS3 is out of stock, when in reality it would seem that the XBOX 360 would be the scond choice or maybe a wii60.

Then again, any1 willing to buy a PS3 for 500/600 is prob not willing to jumo boats.

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Posted 04 October 2006 - 12:33 AM

Meh, if it was $200, people would complain that it didn't include two controllers. If it was $200 and included two controllers, people would still complain that controllers were $60. If controllers were $40, suddenly Nintendo is pulling a MS or Sony with their hardware, which would be stupid.

The mainstream consumer does not have the knowledge we do. If they think it looks fun and it's a "cheap" introduction to the world of gaming, they'll bite. THEN they'll buy more controllers, THEN they'll buy a classic controller, etc, etc. The fact that the cost is amortized across multiple purchases is what people aren't focusing on. That makes a big positive difference when compared to a $400-$600 one-time purchase.

Much like how the $600 360 + HD-DVD does not seem bad to me compared to the $600 PS3, because you can pick and choose what you need at what cost.



Irrelevant. The system will still sell phenominally and beat out the PS3 by sheer fact that the amount of Wii units is so much greater than PS3. As for how it stacks up against the 360, I'm still betting on the Wii due to the amount of press it's been getting in the mainstream media these past several months. And for some reason, I don't hear many CAGers waiting to pick up a 360 this holiday season.

So why should Nintendo rush their launch and thus face potential shortages that piss off customers?


Q to the F to the Tizzle. On both counts.

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Posted 04 October 2006 - 12:41 AM

Yes, some of them do, but the system is clearly capable of much more. The games that don't have stunning graphics are meant to appeal to people on a different level -- The simplistic graphics tell non-gamers that the game is simple enough for them to pick up and play.

I've never seen people WATCH a game and then think "This game is too complicated for me!". However, I have seen people who see a game and say "That game looks crappy (as in the graphics), I'm not buying that."

$250 is too much for a system with inferior technology, that doesn't even play DVD's (a lot of people use their PS2/Xbox/Xbox360 as a DVD player, and look at it as a game system/DVD player). It's only $50 less than an Xbox 360, which, and I'm sure Nintendo fanboys will debate me on this one, is much more powerful than the Wii. But that vaunted "innovation" and Nintendo's marketing-ploy-within a-marketing ploy of "bringing gaming back to the masses" is gonna make those Wii's fly off the shelves though, right?
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Posted 04 October 2006 - 12:43 AM

Then again, any1 willing to buy a PS3 for 500/600 is prob not willing to jumo boats.


Exactly. The Wii could be launched a bit earlier, but it shouldn't be a concern in terms of who gets bragging rights for the holiday season. All three of them will come up with some ridiculous statistic for how their console is the fastest selling in history, but in reality, the launch is for the hardcore anyway. The only item I'm concerned with is the controller being as expensive as it is, and although it probably costs as much or more than the others to manufacture, it still goes against the grain of Nintendo's claims that the console experience is for everyone. Sorry, no way I'm dropping $200 on additional controllers, at least not for awhile.

#30 slimpip

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Posted 04 October 2006 - 12:54 AM

I still don't believe the majority of consumers left empty-handed at PS3's launch are going to buy a Wii, which is why I think the launch date of the Wii is ridiculous.

If their plan is to re-capture market share in the U.S. launching 2 days after the PS3 isn't the way to do it. Those people who want a PS3 are going to get one eventually, and even if they do end up buying a Wii, it's probably even more likely they'll end up buying a PS3 too.

All consumer tendencies aside, the Wii's long-term success is going to rely on word of mouth and their launch success will depend on media coverage. Come Nov. 17th and 19th we'll see if it's PS3 or Wii that gets the coverage. My guess is PS3, but you never know.
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