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#1531 blandstalker

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 12:13 AM

Darth Vader also dies.


And Voyager gets back to Earth! Crazy, right?

Anyway, johnnypark, don't worry about it -- most of what has been said is vague enough that nothing much has been spoiled.

Just in case, though, the thing that disappointed me the most was
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oh get over it. It was pretty good.


I think this is the frustrating part. It was pretty good. It should have been amazing. It should have been great. The last season was lazy in a lot of ways. They had all that time to decide what to do with all the players and I honestly think they could have come up with something better.

It is yet another indication that there never was much long-term planning on any Trek show, even though that's the very thing that made DS9 thrive. I'm still kind of astonished that they
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I do think they should get a pass for Ezri Dax. There really wasn't much they could do. Casting changes like that interrupt the flow and the vibe and can make hash of a series, and there isn't really time to build up the new character and take her somewhere interesting in the final season. This happened to Babylon 5, too. I know I believe that Season 5 would have been a lot better had Claudia Christian not departed.

Ezri wasn't the fault of the actress, who did everything she could. I could blame the writers, but I think they tried. It just wasn't going to be something that was ever going to be great. It's a minor accomplishment that it wasn't awful, and Nicole de Boer deserves a gold star for making the best of a bad situation.
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 03:26 AM

Just came back from the Fanthom Event. The picture quality wasn't that great.... I noticed a LOT of purple fringing throughout both episodes. The perspective of the cube was NOT fixed :( Dialog mix was low, but sound effects and music were high.
The measure of a man extended cut was WELL DONE. Well worth watching. I won't spoil it but there is a scene in Ten Forward of that episode that just really made everyone laugh.

Before the event they had some documentary about the remastering process and so on.

The roundtable preview was pretty good. The outtakes were hilarious.

oh yeah I forgot how hot Ensign Sonya Gomez was in Q Who.
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Really too bad her character was never developed :(

They showed a trailer for the Season 3 BR. It looks really good.. No time frame though.

There were no freebees sadly.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 06:23 AM

They showed a trailer for the Season 3 BR. It looks really good.. No time frame though.

Since they released two seasons across a few months, I'd guess March or April 2013 for S3, July/August for S4 and December for S5.

Assuming they were working on the seasons in some sense of staggered parallel development.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 06:35 AM

Anyways.....looks like BB will have season 2 BR for 65 dollars next week.... A 5 dollar increase from season 1 is not bad at all! I can use my 100 dollar GC to help pay for that, Nemo, Batman and Ted.


Awesome news. I've been waiting to see Best Buy's price. Folks, I hope it goes without saying to submit a price alert to Amazon.

I too went to the showing. I echo pretty much everything ITDEFX said. Season 3 looks incredible-glorious thanks to the geniuses at CBS-Digital... I can only hope they don't try to rush the further seasons by continuing to use the other team. At the moment, NOTHING beyond season 3 has been officially scheduled (though as Shrike notes, they did mention their hope to stagger the development between the two teams to get the sets out quicker), so there is still time for CBS to come to their senses, and not rush things.

Love most of the deleted scenes.
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One scene in particular, though...
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Overall though, make sure you see the extended cut of Measure of a Man. Buy the set, rent the set, borrow the disk from your friend. Something. It's truly a wonderful watch.
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#1535 ITDEFX

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 11:52 AM

Since they released two seasons across a few months, I'd guess March or April 2013 for S3, July/August for S4 and December for S5.

Assuming they were working on the seasons in some sense of staggered parallel development.


Oh yeah..you are right...so March/April. I really hope Enterprise does not come out that same day or else my wallet is gonna be hurting :(



Awesome news. I've been waiting to see Best Buy's price. Folks, I hope it goes without saying to submit a price alert to Amazon.

I too went to the showing. I echo pretty much everything ITDEFX said. Season 3 looks incredible-glorious thanks to the geniuses at CBS-Digital... I can only hope they don't try to rush the further seasons by continuing to use the other team. At the moment, NOTHING beyond season 3 has been officially scheduled (though as Shrike notes, they did mention their hope to stagger the development between the two teams to get the sets out quicker), so there is still time for CBS to come to their senses, and not rush things.

Love most of the deleted scenes.

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One scene in particular, though...
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Overall though, make sure you see the extended cut of Measure of a Man. Buy the set, rent the set, borrow the disk from your friend. Something. It's truly a wonderful watch.


I really think the Q Who episode needed more effects touch up. They got a bit lazy and reused that weird computer animation of the borg ship rebuilding itself. They could have done something in that scene where Data was looking at a wall with a tricorder and then telling everyone else that the ship is being repaired. Even some minor CG would have helped that scene.

#1536 Mandy I Am

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 05:15 PM

I really enjoyed the event last night and am hoping they'll do one for season 3 (I think they will...two episodes were previewed at end). There weren't any glaring issues that made the showing unbearable but it did take what seemed like forever to go through all of Fathom event commercials and it cut off one of the interviews.

The Measure of a Man was like you guys mentioned: amazing. I love pretty much anything showcasing Data because I'm a big fan of the character. It was pretty cool to see the Borg ship on the big screen again but I do agree with ITDEFX that they should have touched it up a bit more.

#1537 ITDEFX

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 12:52 AM

I am guessing "Sins of the Father"....well because you know they keep on praising the shit out of it for one the episodes and of course Yesterday's enterprise. If they don't have YE on the list...I'm gonna be pissed..but then again I most likely am going to be teaching that night ...sigh...can't take a day off lol.

I wonder though... Are they going to do BOBW part 1 and 2 back to back as a movie per say? Then again would you rather have just part 1 or YE?

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 04:09 PM

Something that randomly bothered me recently...

In the Star Trek Voyager Episode Learning Curve (the one where the 4 Maqius crew members had to test with Tuxok)...

...Tuxok requires them to get in 100% correct dress code, removing Bajorin ear piece, a necklace, etc.

How was Worf allowed to be out of dress code for 7 seasons?

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#1539 UncleBob

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Picard was far less strict on things like dress code.

Deanna is a great example. She was out of uniform for something like five seasons until Jellico came aboard and yelled at her.
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#1540 ITDEFX

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Posted 01 December 2012 - 06:56 PM

Picard was far less strict on things like dress code.

Deanna is a great example. She was out of uniform for something like five seasons until Jellico came aboard and yelled at her.


Something that randomly bothered me recently...

In the Star Trek Voyager Episode Learning Curve (the one where the 4 Maqius crew members had to test with Tuxok)...

...Tuxok requires them to get in 100% correct dress code, removing Bajorin ear piece, a necklace, etc.

How was Worf allowed to be out of dress code for 7 seasons?


Simple......sex sells............. Plus do you really want to tell Worf he can't wear his family sash ? He would kill you in a second.

#1541 ITDEFX

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Posted 02 December 2012 - 01:48 AM

A really good documentary

http://www.fxguide.c...-star-trek-tng/

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Posted 02 December 2012 - 11:23 AM

That documentary was interesting, I had seen it linked from one of the Trek sites. The process is intensely intricate, and time consuming. All the more reason to be appreciative that CBS is fronting the dough for something so unprecedentedly cool. And I hope it pays off big time for them so they DS9.

In other cool news, Amazon matched Best Buy. 64.99, smooth as butter.
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#1543 ITDEFX

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Posted 02 December 2012 - 10:40 PM

I am really wondering if the crew who worked on DS9 did just a good of a job as the crew that did TNG? From all the documentaries , it sounded like everything was well organized for TNG. I really wouldn't mind some more CG for DS9. I know that they started using it for season 2 and up.

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Posted 02 December 2012 - 10:44 PM

I would hope so so. The two seconds of upconverted footage of Riker in season 1 is hilarious, but also a true testament to the preservation of the show. We're lucky it was only two seconds!

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 02:07 AM

That's my point with DS9. The last season was pretty lazy. Heck, on my first watch,
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#1546 Tony Stark

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 11:35 AM

Opinion about the 9 minutes/Hobbit thing...

...when they did it for the Dark Knight Rises, it was the beginning scene which barely told any info about the movie...

...so moral of the story is take it as going to see a 9 minute Star Trek movie on its own, do not expect a massive storm of info about the full film

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#1547 ITDEFX

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 12:35 PM

Opinion about the 9 minutes/Hobbit thing...

...when they did it for the Dark Knight Rises, it was the beginning scene which barely told any info about the movie...

...so moral of the story is take it as going to see a 9 minute Star Trek movie on its own, do not expect a massive storm of info about the full film

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That's not the point dude. It's all part of a marketing ploy. It's to do two things, force people to go see it (the hobbit)in IMAX 3d (to make more sales) and to get people hyped up about the new movie. It's funny though, it was said that there was suppose to be a preview for Spiderman infront of MIB3 in the IMAX 3d theaters only, yet it showed infront of the normal 2d version...hmm..

I don't care for LOTR or the Hobbit.. The trailer will show up online (both the short and full) in some capacity in the future. Just wait it out.



In other news, just started watching TNG season 2. The opening shot of the enterprise with the repulse (Excellsior class) from the Child episode was jaw dropping wow! :bouncy:
However holy grain hell batman.........almost ALL bridge scenes are grainy as hell. Anything outside of the bridge looks great.

About to watch the hybrid cut of Measure of a man next.

Explosions look great! When the enterprise destroys the Lantri (sp?), it has a nice boom to it.

There are some shots that look like they just CG'ed the ship though :|

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:52 AM

The official Star Trek Into Darkness Teaser is up on Apple Trailers, but people have already put it on YouTube also

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#1549 ITDEFX

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 12:09 PM

http://io9.com/59661...n=recirculation

HOLY SHIT :hot::hot::hot::hot:


Either the blond chick is Janice Rand or Carol Marcus.

Based on the few shots, I am thinking the enterprise does get damaged to the point of either destroyed or requiring a major refit.

I think they are trying to tease Spock's death but unlikely.

EDIT: Ok, Trek core posted some shots

Looks like the Nacelle gets damaged.

http://movies.trekco...kness_hd_47.jpg

So this is more of a domestic terrorist type movie....hmm...

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 07:32 PM

Sigh, not sure how to take that.
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 07:44 PM

The thing that gets me is seeing Cumberbatch jump around like that ,
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#1552 ITDEFX

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 05:39 AM

I fucking knew it!!

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 03:22 PM

Just finished DS9 last night. Overall I really enjoyed it. Some thoughts:

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 07:20 PM

^ I've never had an issue with the Dukat/Winn final arc line
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Posted 12 December 2012 - 08:26 PM

It seems to be a rule that any Trek show (which has a holodeck) must have at least one cheesy holodeck episode. It's practically tradition I think.
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Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:13 PM

You're right. Even the ship that didnt have a holodeck had a terrible terrible holodeck episode...
Those Voyager episodes that took place in the Irish Pub town (Fairhaven?) I think I watched them all of once in their original run and never again. Rackin my brain trying to remember which other ones VGR had.. All I can think of are the Hirogen Killing Game episodes,,

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 10:37 PM

I agree with everything johnnypark said.

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Posted 13 December 2012 - 06:43 AM

^ I've never had an issue with the Dukat/Winn final arc line

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What's wrong with Take me Out to the Holosuite? It was a sillly, funny episode. I enjoyed it.
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Posted 13 December 2012 - 06:54 AM

There was no issue with the holodeck episodes, except that they were in the final season. I can understand one episode to illustrate how life still goes on during the war, but the last season had so much filler.

I'd also like to add that I still don't get
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Posted 13 December 2012 - 07:25 AM

Re: Odo and the Founders
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