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#1711 6er

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 07:51 PM

Also let me complain about one remark in that review also, which.many critics make.

People trash the idea of appeasing Trekkies as being what drug the series down. In fact, we are the reason its still alive. The actual people involved in Trek have learned this.

If most people are too stupid to understand the plot, then that really shows how moronic the world has gotten over the last 50 years.

Case in point: Michael Bay films

I like explosions as much as the next guy, but Trek doesn't need a $200 million budget and lens flare in every frame to.make money. The ones in charge for so long just did it wrong.

But I guess I'm ranting to the choir here.

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 08:37 PM

ok...just read it....hmmm....

less than 3 hours to go!!!

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Posted 25 April 2013 - 08:59 PM

S4 Trailer!


Space shots (including that new Beauty Pass from Redemption part 1) looks amazing, but live action looks so so :|

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 01:52 AM

Just came back from the best of both worlds event.

-Did anyone notice a pinkish halo around the characters?
-Part 2 looked a lot better than part 1.
-That 3 second upscale scene on the battle bridge did look noticeable :(
-They left the sparkies in :(
-There was this weird music loop moments before the saucer separation sequence. I am hoping this was a lag in the transmission and NOT in the release.
-The edit was nicely done between Riker's Fire command and the next scene of part 2.
-The grave yard scene looked pretty much the same as the original :( Was hoping for more background ships.
-Theater was PACKED... heads up, get there at least 30 to 60 mins before it starts, if you get there when the show starts at 7, you are SOL when it comes to seats.
-Season 3 outtakes were funny. Worf had some good ones.
-There is a short documentary that last 30 mins before the main event.
-Season 4 trailer(which was just posted on line today) was shown.
-I strongly believe that Redemption part 1 and 2 will be edited together for the next event.
Overall a good experience to say the least.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 02:42 AM

Not bad, but not Trek.


Pretty much sums up the first movie too.

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Posted 26 April 2013 - 04:54 AM

Event was pretty cool. Bloopers were great. That guy Patrick is such a cheeky bastard.

Season 4 trailer has me relieved. They're having Max Gabl doing the planets for S4, the same guy with the CBS Digital team, which is huge. No more ridiculous N64 textured planets like season 2. If they can keep the new team(s) in check (apparently CBS Digital will be in close contact according to Trek Core) then it is truly exciting the pace they're working at. They'll be done by next year. Give us DS9 next :D
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Posted 27 April 2013 - 01:54 PM

Ok, I'm saying it. If a a Triple A studio, BioWare, 343, even friggin Treyarch, or the former Raven or Totally Games EF or ST:BC guys had a kickstarter to make a quality Trek game, based on the Prime universe....

The Enterprise looks so good in the new PC game I have NOT FREAKING IDEA how the idea of how.they couldn't make a New version of BC. Crap, they would even have benchmark reference to go off of!


Star Trek Excalibur game cannot come soon enough. Too bad they would get sued by CBS and paramount if they had a kickstarter.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 02:54 PM

You know what I JUST realized? The HD single edit of BOBW...they deleted 14 seconds from the start of part 2!!! I am on the fence about this. Those 14 seconds were kind of suspenseful when you first saw it..and the thoughts in your mind were like "Is this it? is Picard going to die?". There was no music in those 14 seconds... On the other hand for the edit it kinda works as it fires with no delay. The Borg could have easily disabled the enterprise's warp engines and took off before they fired.

Also anyone think there should have been MORE ships in the grave yard scene? Or even more ships from Jupiter instead of those 3 ships?

Finally, Too bad there wasn't a bigger boom for the cube...or even a Praxis style shockwave.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 05:57 PM

I agree re: Wolf 359, especially since that battle/massacre is a big footnote later in Trek history, between DS9's roots to the battle and it being cited later as a reason at times why Picard is unfit for facing the Borg. They had an opportunity to to try and flesh out the size and scope of Star Fleet (which DS9 pulls off in some of their enormous battles) by really showing the destruction of a fleet and slightly missed the mark.

I'm sort of glad they didn't try to fix up that scene by adding CG stuff into it, but in the making of featurette the effects guy mentions they had corpses floating in space and some way more crucial visuals which didn't really make it into the final shot, which I think would have added to it a lot.

Also, I HATE the way Data says "Wolf Three-Fifty-Nine" instead of "Three-Five-Nine" when he's so proper in his diction and everyone else says three-five-nine.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 07:06 PM

Nope, the sparse number of.ships able to fight the Borg in time makes perfect sense. Look at how many times Kirk's ship was the only one around that could save the universe. What......the first 5 movies?

Starfleet didn't protect on any decent scale earth until the dom war it seems. Heck even in early in STE..
..it was a theme.


Then again, they didn't need anyone else around, since he shot first rather than debating morality like Picard.

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 01:07 AM

Was going to slog more of the Star Trek Video Gameon PC (halfway through it starts to get.......boring).

2.5GB PATCH!


After I installed it, the enemy cant still see me through walls, making the stealth optional objective impossible.


GOOD JOB BONEHEADS!

Well, at least I can say this is the first bad game whose marketing suckered me in, in many years. LEt my Trek optimism suck me in on this one.

edit: Soon after I shoot one of the enemies in the butt and it looked like he had a butt rocket, or explosive gas, as he mildly propelled through the air. from a butt shot.

edit 2: yup, pretty sure the physics are now laughably absurd. head shot sent a 1000 pound bipedal dino mutiple-somersaulting backwards through the air

Edited by 6er, 28 April 2013 - 01:22 AM.

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 04:41 PM

There are so few good Trek games. The Amrada games were good (first was better than the second), Bridge Commander was ok too, and I remember the SNES/Genesis TNG game being ok. That's about all I can think of that I enjoyed. I've still got an old copy of the Generations movie game, god that was horrible.
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Posted 28 April 2013 - 04:58 PM

I really loved Starfleet Academy. I was also a kid, so maybe it was in all actuality crap, but I enjoyed the cut scenes, and flying the ships, etc.

Also, Star Trek Legacy had its issues, but overall I really enjoyed the campaign.
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Posted 28 April 2013 - 05:05 PM

I've always wanted to play the Elite Force games, but since they apparently focus on the plot towards the end of Voyager, I want to wait until I actually watch Voyager so that the games don't spoil anything.

Bummer the new game is so broken. Early screen shots and vids made it look like it had potential.

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 06:03 PM

Picked up all the even numbers ('cept Nemesis) and 2009 on BR from BB today ($5 each after dvd trade coupon). Gonna Trek out tonight.

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 08:24 PM

Good call! I can't wait until Tuesday. I'm going to try and do a janky price match for the Target deal at Best Buy+apply coupon(s). If that doesn't work, oh well, I'll get reward points at least.

Speaking of your purchases of Trek movies, I'd love it if they did a big boxset where the guy who does the TNG and Enterprise bonus features did some for all of the movies. I love those documentaries-- though it'd be a huge undertaking to go through Star Trek's cinematic history like that, especially for the TOS era.

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 09:54 PM

Yeah I am going to try to PM Amazon/Target as well. I am wondering if Season 4 will contain the original edit (those original 14 seconds before the enterprise fires)? I am sure it will.

oh yeah..hey FOS did your viewing on Thursday sound more like Stereo than 7.1/5.1?
All I remembered is that when the projector turned on, there was a Window XP desktop and the top corner kept on saying YR720 . I almost rolled my eyes.

btw... Wikipedia spoiled ITD!!! :( I am kind of on the fence on it........hmmm....

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 11:05 PM

Bummer on the spoils, but truth be told Wikipedia is the last place you should be for a movie you haven't seen if you don't want it spoiled. I know ITD hasn't come out yet, but since there's already at least one review out, the internet is officially a spoiler zone.

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Posted 28 April 2013 - 11:09 PM

Yeah I am going to try to PM Amazon/Target as well. I am wondering if Season 4 will contain the original edit (those original 14 seconds before the enterprise fires)? I am sure it will.

oh yeah..hey FOS did your viewing on Thursday sound more like Stereo than 7.1/5.1?
All I remembered is that when the projector turned on, there was a Window XP desktop and the top corner kept on saying YR720 . I almost rolled my eyes.

btw... Wikipedia spoiled ITD!!! :( I am kind of on the fence on it........hmmm....


Yeah, the sound was not that good really. It was loud, but that was about it. I was almost disappointed because I'm putting together a surround sound system, and one of the first things I was going to try was to play some TNG on it but then I remember the audio was probably going to be wack just like the video.
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Posted 29 April 2013 - 03:25 AM

Bummer on the spoils, but truth be told Wikipedia is the last place you should be for a movie you haven't seen if you don't want it spoiled. I know ITD hasn't come out yet, but since there's already at least one review out, the internet is officially a spoiler zone.


Well from what I said earlier about what I think is going to happen...well I was wrong. It's basically a
Spoiler


Yeah, the sound was not that good really. It was loud, but that was about it. I was almost disappointed because I'm putting together a surround sound system, and one of the first things I was going to try was to play some TNG on it but then I remember the audio was probably going to be wack just like the video.


Are you guys adjusting your tv's to "Fit" mode or leaving it 4x3? I am kinda scared to leave it on 4x3 for too long on my plasma.

I am probably going to jump right into Booby Trap, The Enemy, The Defector, Tin Man, Yesterday's Enterprise, Sarek, Sins of the father (for that restored 3 SECONDS!!). I will probably be watching the Single Disc BOBW by the time my wife comes home only to have her say, "Didn't we see this last week???"

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Posted 29 April 2013 - 03:46 AM

Is there a negative affect to the bars on the left and right for plasma televisions? As far as I understand it, modern plasma TVs are really good when it comes to burn in-- you'd have to do something extreme to leave permanent damage.
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Posted 29 April 2013 - 03:51 AM

Is there a negative affect to the bars on the left and right for plasma televisions? As far as I understand it, modern plasma TVs are really good when it comes to burn in-- you'd have to do something extreme to leave permanent damage.


There is some minor after imaging but then again I have been using this thing every day for nearly 4 years now :|

Well I can tell when my wife has been watching lifetime all fucking day when I see the logo burned into it. :bomb:

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Is there a negative affect to the bars on the left and right for plasma televisions? As far as I understand it, modern plasma TVs are really good when it comes to burn in-- you'd have to do something extreme to leave permanent damage.

Once you're through the break in period it's fine. I wouldn't do it all day but a few episodes is no big deal. There will only be temporary image retention.

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Posted 29 April 2013 - 09:39 PM

Didn't I tell you??!?!?!? It was like written on the wall!

http://trekcore.com/...coming-in-july/

I like the cover but honestly they should get rid of the enterprise vs the BOP. Either put more Klingons or leave worf alone.

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Posted 29 April 2013 - 11:40 PM

Yeah, that cover is MUCH better than the silly Best of Both Worlds photoshop. Though I agree with you about the ships. Take 'em out, or at least the Enterprise.

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 01:15 AM

It honestly should have Galron (sp?), The Duras Sisters, Sela, Romulan Warbirds and the Sutherland.

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 02:21 PM

So more footage is being found on VHS :\
http://trekcore.com/...3s-the-bonding/

But honestly does anyone care about the bonding?

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 02:22 PM

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 04:43 PM

I have watched the TNG movies in Blu Ray, but just watched TMP for the first time in the HD remaster last night. WOW. The models are amazing. As Hamil was saying about his ideas on the new SW Trilogy, physical models add a depth and detail you lose with CGI. In fact the old school FX looks so great in HD I actually enjoyed TMP much more. The stupid long unveil of 1701 refit makes more sense now, the model detail leaps from my screen.

ILM did an amazing job on that movie. I had always heard they did but couldnt tell in SD. The VGER cloud is even better. So much so I actually believe the actors sense of awe now.

Would even go so far as to wonder how nice a comprehensive 3d makeover could look.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 05:57 PM

I have watched the TNG movies in Blu Ray, but just watched TMP for the first time in the HD remaster last night. WOW. The models are amazing. As Hamil was saying about his ideas on the new SW Trilogy, physical models add a depth and detail you lose with CGI. In fact the old school FX looks so great in HD I actually enjoyed TMP much more. The stupid long unveil of 1701 refit makes more sense now, the model detail leaps from my screen.

ILM did an amazing job on that movie. I had always heard they did but couldnt tell in SD. The VGER cloud is even better. So much so I actually believe the actors sense of awe now.

Would even go so far as to wonder how nice a comprehensive 3d makeover could look.


I agree, even in SD the ships in the original SW trilogy retain a level of detail and polish that still look fantastic today, meanwhile the best of the best in the prequels (such as the enormous dogfight in the beginning of Episode III) look dated by comparison as CG has improved. I wish they would have used models just to make the new films have a similar aesthetic, but the CG is the least of those films' problems!

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