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#961 BattleChicken

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 04:22 PM

I can't imagine caring about HD vs non-HD for Star Trek. Star Trek certainly had some special effects, but I don't think that the scale and scope of the special effects warrant the HD price tag.

The most recent movie? Totally worth it in HD. Movies like Iron Man and Spider man? Totally worth it in HD. Movies where most of the program is people walking down hallways or sitting in chairs? Not worth HD.

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 08:07 PM

I can't imagine caring about HD vs non-HD for Star Trek. Star Trek certainly had some special effects, but I don't think that the scale and scope of the special effects warrant the HD price tag.

The most recent movie? Totally worth it in HD. Movies like Iron Man and Spider man? Totally worth it in HD. Movies where most of the program is people walking down hallways or sitting in chairs? Not worth HD.


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#963 blandstalker

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 10:23 PM

I can't imagine caring about HD vs non-HD for Star Trek. Star Trek certainly had some special effects, but I don't think that the scale and scope of the special effects warrant the HD price tag.


Who said anything about price tag? We're CAGs. We want it for less than the DVDs cost. :lol:

Yesterday, I saw the TNG complete series set at Costco for $184, which is just a little bit over $1 per episode. That's pretty good.

But why would I buy it with Blu-Rays on the horizon? I want to see Riker's pores, dammit. And the upholstery on the chairs and the carpet in those hallways!

Anyone remember when they'd slap two episodes on a VHS tape and charge $20 for it?
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#964 shrike4242

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 10:37 PM

The TOS BD sets went on sale at Best Buy semi-close to release of TOS S3 to BD, so if you wait them out for a while, you'll likely get them for cheaper than the $70 - $80 / season they'll come out at.

#965 BattleChicken

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 10:54 PM

Why would you buy it at all when you can stream every episode for $9 a month through Netflix?

Perhaps after they're no longer available streaming I'd consider picking up the series, but the most fiscally responsible thing to do is take advantage of the lowest-cost option to watch the shows.

I'm honestly not trying to troll you guys, I just think the price is pretty high even considering the number of episodes per season. TNG is going to be at prices higher than ANIME - that's pretty unreal to me, and there's something about a paying a really high price for a series that was broadcast on the air for free that bothers me. In general, I won't buy ANY OTA TV series for anything more than $20 per season.

EDIT: to be clear, my position is a personal preference not at all a judgement on other people's choices to buy or not buy the bluray release.

#966 ITDEFX

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Posted 29 September 2011 - 11:28 PM

Well remember TNG was shown during the SD era...now that we have moving away from that, shows like that don't hold too well on today's HDTV's.

Honestly season 1-3 looked a little dim back in the day. The demo disc is probably going to be the deciding factor weither or not people are willing to pay 100 dollars or more (again) for each season. They picked the pilot and two award winning shows, which is a good choice for stories, but not for visual presentations. Pretty much all the studio models have been sold off, so they can't refilm the ship shots. However if they preserved the original footage of the ship shots, then I am sure it's going to look good, but honestly would have loved to have seen all the fx's redone for hd.

I am confused as to why it's claiming 1080p 1.33:1....that worries me. I don't like watching 4x3 video on my 16x9 hdtv.

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Posted 09 October 2011 - 08:57 PM

Here is a comparison shot someone did.
http://tng.trekcore....omparison-2.jpg
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#968 ITDEFX

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Posted 09 October 2011 - 10:12 PM

Here is a comparison shot someone did.
http://tng.trekcore....omparison-2.jpg



hmmm...

Shouldn't the saucer engine impulse engines be glowing as well or is that only when in saucer separation mode?

It's honestly really hard to judge right now unless we get the full opening video. I know that they rebuilt the ship and gave it more details around the 4th season. The ship looks too modelish in the HD side...which could be a problem.

hmm I just looked more into the site..
http://tng.trekcore....uray/index.html

Looks like they balanced out the colors in season 1..which I am glad since season 1 and season 2 seemed a bit muggy.

#969 CaptainKirk

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 04:52 AM

the trek irony...

...watching Transformers 3...

...the little robot hops on the couch, says hey this is the episode Spock gets angry

...the irony is Sentinel Prime is voiced by Lenard Nimoy, the original Spock, and Sentinel Prime seems very angry most of the film lol

#970 blandstalker

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Posted 17 October 2011 - 10:23 PM

the trek irony...

...watching Transformers 3...

...the little robot hops on the couch, says hey this is the episode Spock gets angry

...the irony is Sentinel Prime is voiced by Lenard Nimoy, the original Spock, and Sentinel Prime seems very angry most of the film lol


Um, that's not the point at all. They're watching Amok Time and they say "This is the one where Spock goes nuts."

Which is relevant because
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It's not irony at all, not even to Alanis Morissette. It's
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There was an article in the paper recently on how Leonard Nimoy was attending his last Star Trek convention. He'd been doing them for almost 30 years and thought the 45th anniversary of Trek would be a good time to call it quits with respect to appearances.
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Posted 17 October 2011 - 11:50 PM

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#972 ITDEFX

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Posted 18 October 2011 - 10:24 PM

http://trekmovie.com...y-bullied-teen/

oh WOW....... Syler/Spoke has come out of the closet!

#973 Javery

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Posted 18 October 2011 - 11:20 PM

Not shocking at all.

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#974 shrike4242

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Posted 18 October 2011 - 11:35 PM

http://trekmovie.com...y-bullied-teen/

oh WOW....... Syler/Spoke has come out of the closet!

Looks like Spock also came out of the closet. Not sure who this "Spoke" person you're talking about.

#975 keithp

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Posted 19 October 2011 - 12:13 AM

I believe that news was very logical....

#976 ITDEFX

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Posted 19 October 2011 - 12:49 AM

cochese needs to update the OP title saying Spock has come out of the closet!

#977 Friend of Sonic

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Posted 07 November 2011 - 12:47 AM

JJ wants Benicio Del Torro to play the villian in Star Trek 2.

Also, The Captains is on Netflix streaming.

#978 keithp

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Posted 07 November 2011 - 04:13 AM

JJ wants Benicio Del Torro to play the villian in Star Trek 2.

Also, The Captains is on Netflix streaming.


Rumor is he'll be playing
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Cool, I'll have to catch The Captains, thanks.

#979 Frogurt.man

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Posted 07 November 2011 - 04:46 AM

Rumor is he'll be playing

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Cool, I'll have to catch The Captains, thanks.


How is this a rumor?

A well known hispanic actor is hired for a role in the Star Trek franchise. Hum I wonder what the roll will be. :roll:

It will be space seed with lens flare. I can't wait(seriously). JJ needs to hurry the Fuck up before Leonard Nimoy kicks the bucket.

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Posted 07 November 2011 - 05:27 AM

In rewatching the entire TNG series, I have to say that my least favorite episodes by far are the ones where they return back in time or roleplay. The only exception might be the one with Mark Twain but ironically, it's easily the most stupid.

#981 CocheseUGA

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Posted 07 November 2011 - 12:17 PM

cochese needs to update the OP title saying Spock has come out of the closet!


Done.

#982 blandstalker

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Posted 07 November 2011 - 02:34 PM

Good article at Topless Robot: The 11 Greatest Star Trek: Deep Space 9 Supporting Characters
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#983 ITDEFX

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Posted 18 November 2011 - 12:58 AM

http://trekmovie.com...tng-remastered/

Hmmm.... the latest screen caps are starting to impress me..... I was really hoping for redone sfx :(

The DVD presentation was murky all the way thru :( .... I don't like that "24 years in the making"............. ok, then that better be 24 years of restoration lol.

#984 RedvsBlue

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Posted 18 November 2011 - 02:14 AM

Good article at Topless Robot: The 11 Greatest Star Trek: Deep Space 9 Supporting Characters


As soon as I clicked on it I thought "Gul Dukat has it locked" then when I read their reasoning for Garak it gave me slight cause to reconsider. In the end though I have to go with Dukat. He, without a doubt, had the most fun character arcs of not only any character in DS9 but in all of Star Trek. The back and forth of him when he was a character you kind of rooted for to (as the article pointed out) a character whose ruthlessness was only matched by Khan was absolutely excellent viewing.

I still think Garak had a very excellent story arc as well but essentially he was basically the "hero version" of Dukat with the addition of a "mysterious past." Now don't get me wrong, I'm not selling Garak short by any stretch of the imagination but I've gotta say he's only slightly edged out by Dukat.

At the end of the day though, this entire list (Weyoun, Martok, also f-ing excellent characters as well) speaks of how absolutely amazing the characterizations were in DS9. The fact that there were so many great characters and even characters that were taken to new and much more interesting heights (O'Brien and Worf) beyond their somewhat simplistic characters in TNG. The more I think about it, I'm really thinking that was probably why DS9 was so much better than Voyager and Enterprise, their characters were so damn compelling.

Damn, I really rambled on here, didn't I? Ah well.

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Posted 18 November 2011 - 04:56 AM

http://trekmovie.com...tng-remastered/

Hmmm.... the latest screen caps are starting to impress me..... I was really hoping for redone sfx :(

The DVD presentation was murky all the way thru :( .... I don't like that "24 years in the making"............. ok, then that better be 24 years of restoration lol.



Wow, that looks great. But I've already watched TNG enough that by the time I have the urge to watch it again the entire show will be in blu ray and cheap enough for me to pick up.

Also for all the Trek fans interested in the MMO. Star trek online F2P was pushed back to Jan 17th.

#986 dafoomie

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Posted 18 November 2011 - 05:28 AM

Good article at Topless Robot: The 11 Greatest Star Trek: Deep Space 9 Supporting Characters

What? No Liquidator Brunt? They had a lot of good characters that don't even make the list, Eddington, Grand Nagus Zek, Ziyal, Vedek Bareil, Tain, Sisko's father, never liked Kasidy Yates though.

The nice thing about big budget shows is the ability to have such a large cast of quality recurring characters.

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Posted 18 November 2011 - 04:00 PM

Wow, the restoration looks great, even the internal shots with them just standing around talking.
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#988 ITDEFX

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Posted 18 November 2011 - 09:29 PM

Now back when it was originally released on TV, it looked pretty good in SD. For the DVD release, they probably used a shitty codec and compression level that made things murky so that they could squeeze 4-5 episodes per disc. They were meant for the SD Era, which is now slowly fading away and the level of quality is poor for the HD era. With new codecs and compression techniques, I am pretty sure we are going to get what we saw back in the broadcast days, with some digital fixing. What I am wondering is :

-How much is this project costing Paramount a season.
-How much will be passed down to consumers when the first full season arrives?....200 dollars per season?
-Will they add more material that was not included in the original DVD release like out takes, bloopers, test shots and so on to make it worth the price they are asking for or is it just porting over what we had before?

#989 KingDox

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 01:22 AM

Now back when it was originally released on TV, it looked pretty good in SD. For the DVD release, they probably used a shitty codec and compression level that made things murky so that they could squeeze 4-5 episodes per disc. They were meant for the SD Era, which is now slowly fading away and the level of quality is poor for the HD era. With new codecs and compression techniques, I am pretty sure we are going to get what we saw back in the broadcast days, with some digital fixing. What I am wondering is :

-How much is this project costing Paramount a season.
-How much will be passed down to consumers when the first full season arrives?....200 dollars per season?
-Will they add more material that was not included in the original DVD release like out takes, bloopers, test shots and so on to make it worth the price they are asking for or is it just porting over what we had before?


I would expect the HD sets to cost no more then 80 bucks a season. That's how much the TNG sets cost when they first came out and plenty of trek fans paid that much. Remember Trek fans have been buying the shows to watch at home since the VHS days. They are used to spending too much.

Any more then 80 bucks per season will make sure only die hards pick it up.

I'm sure it cost paramount a ton of money to make TNG in HD but they also now have the possiblity to sindicate it in HD like they did with TOS. That alone I bet will cover the cost of redoing the show.

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Posted 19 November 2011 - 02:39 PM

I would expect the HD sets to cost no more then 80 bucks a season. That's how much the TNG sets cost when they first came out and plenty of trek fans paid that much. Remember Trek fans have been buying the shows to watch at home since the VHS days. They are used to spending too much.

Any more then 80 bucks per season will make sure only die hards pick it up.

I'm sure it cost paramount a ton of money to make TNG in HD but they also now have the possiblity to sindicate it in HD like they did with TOS. That alone I bet will cover the cost of redoing the show.


At that time (2002), I paid 100 bucks at best buy "on sale". Then they cranked the price up to 110-120.