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PS3 101: New user's guide to the PS3 (ask questions here -- TMK is on duty)


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#1951 NamPaehc

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Posted 15 December 2009 - 06:13 PM

I think my PS3 is still "working"... it doesn't isn't displaying anything (bad GPU is my guess).

Once I pick up a replacement, I was thinking of trying to transfer the files "blindly". Basically going through the menu with no display. Does anyone know of a video of the new file transferring process so I can find out the sequence of buttons I'll need to press?

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#1952 dallow

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Posted 15 December 2009 - 06:18 PM

Are you on the latest firmware on that one?
And you have held down the power button when turning it on to reset the video settings I'm assuming?

#1953 NamPaehc

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Posted 15 December 2009 - 06:32 PM

Are you on the latest firmware on that one?
And you have held down the power button when turning it on to reset the video settings I'm assuming?



Oh good catch, it is one update back... I believe. So there goes that.

And yeah I tried everything Dallow. Different cables, resetting and what not.

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#1954 mguiddy

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Posted 15 December 2009 - 06:48 PM

Can't you blindly update the firmware as well?

#1955 NamPaehc

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Posted 15 December 2009 - 07:03 PM

Can't you blindly update the firmware as well?


I think so.

I'm not going to bother now though. I got most of the save files I wanted recently backed up (got it to display for a few minutes). I can redownload my PSN files I guess. Think I have enough uses left. Burned them 2-3 replacement PS3's already so I'll see how it goes.

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#1956 NamPaehc

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Posted 18 December 2009 - 04:26 AM

Whats this about deactivating accounts when swapping PS3's?

I can't use my old PS3 so when my replacement comes, what should I do to get my old accounts onto it?

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#1957 Wolfpup

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Posted 18 December 2009 - 02:33 PM

That's not good. That'll wreck one of your activation slots :(
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#1958 espy

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Posted 18 December 2009 - 05:53 PM

Whats this about deactivating accounts when swapping PS3's?

I can't use my old PS3 so when my replacement comes, what should I do to get my old accounts onto it?


If you have a Backup, you can restore your account but a lot of things won't restore properly or at all. You could also just sign in if you remember your PSN login credentials. The first is the easiest if you don't have the ability to use the new PS3 transfer tool.

#1959 dallow

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Posted 18 December 2009 - 06:29 PM

I say, do a blind update.

And use the transfer tool copy everything including locked saves.
You then do a blind deactivation for your PSN account(s).

#1960 Wolfpup

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Posted 18 December 2009 - 06:39 PM

Good idea about the blind deactivation. If that's possible, do it! That's the most important thing (followed by saves I guess).
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#1961 NamPaehc

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Posted 18 December 2009 - 09:03 PM

The controller won't snyc. :( It powers the thing up but it keeps blinking, and I can't tell if it is working in the menus or not so doing it blind is no good. It is weird because I'm not getting a hardware failure notice (yellow light), but I am seeing I am no the only one with the issue around here.

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#1962 dallow

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Posted 18 December 2009 - 09:43 PM

I know video doesn't work but no sound out either?

#1963 NamPaehc

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Posted 18 December 2009 - 09:52 PM

I know video doesn't work but no sound out either?



No. It has progressively gotten worse since I last posted the details. Powers up, HD lights flickers, power light comes on. Can load/unload discs via the eject button but no sound/video regardless what I connect now. Plus I can't tell if the controller is connected, I don't think it is as it keeps flashing as if it is searching then goes off after a while.

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#1964 irideabike

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 07:48 PM

I'm trying to decide between the slim and 80 gig. only difference i see is Linux on the 80, the 80 being a bit louder, and the slim having the bravia link up dealio (that works with my tv). just was looking for anyone elses opinions on it.

i'm going to be using this as my primary bluray player, and for ps3 exclusives.

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#1965 Space Cowboy YGI

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 08:02 PM

I was on the same boat months ago (wanted to install Linux on an 80 or get a slim). Went with a Slim at the end based on certain (not all) older model PS3's malfunctioning after Sony firmware updates (not a conspiracy theorist, but possible sabotage?), the price to get an 80 fixed, certain 80gb are loud while others are not (??) and the simple fact that Sony doesn't want these things in existence anymore (confirmed with a new price hike on repairs).
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#1966 Wolfpup

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Posted 23 December 2009 - 08:15 PM

Unless it's a model with backwards compatibility, personally I'd just get the new one, not that it probably matters much. 45nm CPU on the new one I think, if nothing else.
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#1967 Shockdrop

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Posted 22 January 2010 - 07:09 PM

Hey can you move the settings & such from signing up for the PSN to another user profile on the same PS3? I put all my stuff on the wrong one >_> Or can I just delete the settings from the one?

#1968 Wolfkin

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 12:02 AM

settings? like what?

if you mean stuff like your trophies and PSN friends list that can't be transferred. but if you just put in the wrong PSN acct on your PS3 and you want to switch to a different acct that's easy.

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 01:28 AM

settings? like what?

if you mean stuff like your trophies and PSN friends list that can't be transferred. but if you just put in the wrong PSN acct on your PS3 and you want to switch to a different acct that's easy.


Yeah, that's what I mean. How do I do that?

#1970 Wolfkin

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Posted 23 January 2010 - 01:31 AM

so at the XMB go to Playstation Network > Account Management > Account Information > Sign-In ID (E-mail address)

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#1971 PookaLady

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 09:00 PM

Does the PS 3 need to be turned on in order to charge a wireless controller?

#1972 FellOpenIan

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 10:15 PM

Does the PS 3 need to be turned on in order to charge a wireless controller?


Yes.

But you don't have to do a full charge in one sitting which is nice.
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#1973 slowdive21

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 01:51 AM

Does the PS 3 need to be turned on in order to charge a wireless controller?


Yes, but you can also use the USB on a computer to charge it. It also seems to charge faster via PC.

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 03:12 AM

Playstation Plus question. Is it possible to purchase. And download same game on more than one of your ps system?'Can you put same game on system in living room as on system in rec room, example.Do you have to pay for each of the system to have game?'

#1975 FriskyTanuki

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Posted 26 January 2013 - 03:31 AM

You can play those games on up to two different PS3s.

#1976 Kazaganthi

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 05:31 AM

Ok, I'm getting a 2nd PS3 and I want both setup with the same content on each. I have PS+, and I know all those games will work on both, but only 1 system will auto-update. So as I get new games/patches/save files/DLC I'll have to update the 2nd console manually after initial setup.

My question is, how does the transfer system from PS3 to new PS3 work? What will/won't transfer? I'm looking to make a copy.

On my main console, profile 2 is a sub account (so no PS+ cloud) has save files that are linked to that sub account. So will profiles transfer and the save files will work?


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Posted 03 February 2013 - 08:20 AM

Ok I just setup my ps3. I have a bunch of questions/comments/observations. I have a 360 so I may make comparisons while explaining.


I had to create a "user profile" once I set date/time etc. I'm guessing this is just like a 'profile' on 360.

I then created a "PSN ID" and used an email account to register. Equivalent to 'Gamertag' on 360. Sony seems to want more personal info than Microsoft as they ask for address and zip code. Microsoft just asks you to use a Windows Live account which required info then.

I entered some DLC codes and then "downloaded" the content (would start downloading once redeemed/confirmed on 360). Apparently by reentering the same dlc code, the PSN store recognizes what it was for whereas on XBL, a message would state the code has been redeemed.

Entering a used code on PSN (that the logged in PSN ID did not redeem) gives a message that the code is not valid or had been used. I entered a 15 character string which gave the same message. I do not like how PS3/PSN handles invalid codes - it should state invalid and differentiate from used.

I noticed entering codes is faster through the PSN store (enter all 16) then through the Redeem Code at the XMB (must be in parts of 4).


Now on to questions.

What exactly is the purpose of a "User" and how is it different from a PSN ID? The one I had was a default "User1". I also noticed I could create more users while still signed in to my PSN ID.
"Users" seem to differ from guest accounts on a 360. There can also be offline profiles on 360 which can later become a Gamertag (assuming the string does not exist as a Gamertag already). How are game saves and trophies work/affected by different Users on the same ID?

How does moving/transferring IDs and profiles work? I don't mean as in a system transfer but like going to a friend's house.

Are game saves copyable or only moveable? Can they be moved/copied to a flash drive?

Is there a way to play offline once signed into a PSN ID?

I hear most DLC is "region locked". What does that mean?
A US DLC code is redeemed/downloaded on a NA PSN ID on a NA console in the US. Would the DLC be usable if the person had a PAL game disc?
A European DLC code redeemed/downloaded on a EU PSN ID on a NA console in the US. Can a person use this content on their main US PSN ID if they have a PAL game? What if they have a US copy?

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#1978 Kazaganthi

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 03:56 AM

Now on to questions.

What exactly is the purpose of a "User" and how is it different from a PSN ID? The one I had was a default "User1". I also noticed I could create more users while still signed in to my PSN ID.
"Users" seem to differ from guest accounts on a 360. There can also be offline profiles on 360 which can later become a Gamertag (assuming the string does not exist as a Gamertag already). How are game saves and trophies work/affected by different Users on the same ID?

You can change User1 to your name. Users under first one are guest accounts, or sub accounts. You can name them anything, but each one can only be linked to one PSN ID. If they are never linked to a PSN ID, they are just that, guest account. Which at any time could later become a PSN ID.

If you are playing a game on main profile, and player2 selects their profile for co-op games, they will not be signed into PSN, only 1 active PSN user online at a time. Their character data will be saved on their profile, for later trophy hunting if want.

Any 2nd/3rd/etc user/profile on your system can link to your SO/friend/family members PSN ID. They can earn their own trophies while on that account, but not at same time you are on main account. If they get their own PS3, they can use that same PSN ID, and after syncing trophies on your PS3, it should show up on their profile on their PS3.

Any co-op game that lets you pick your profile in-game, will save their info on their profile even if you are the active profile. Any game they play while active on their profile also saves their own save files under their profile.

How does moving/transferring IDs and profiles work? I don't mean as in a system transfer but like going to a friend's house.

Are game saves copyable or only moveable? Can they be moved/copied to a flash drive?

I hope someone answers my system transfer profile question up above^

But I do know that most saves you can backup on a USB. Some (like Dungeon Defenders) are locked and you cannot backup unless you have PS+. So once any non-protected save file is on the USB you can take your save files to a friends, and as long as you have your user/profile and PSN ID set up on their consoles, it should work. I'm basing that guess off PS+ Cloud. PS+ Cloud can do just that, but with save protected files too.

Is there a way to play offline once signed into a PSN ID?

Yes. On the XMB there is a option called "Account Management", top option above trophies. Press Triangle and select "Sign out". You'll be offline.

I hear most DLC is "region locked". What does that mean?
A US DLC code is redeemed/downloaded on a NA PSN ID on a NA console in the US. Would the DLC be usable if the person had a PAL game disc?
A European DLC code redeemed/downloaded on a EU PSN ID on a NA console in the US. Can a person use this content on their main US PSN ID if they have a PAL game? What if they have a US copy?

If you buy/have DLC from US store but have a PAL game disc, no it shouldn't work. In fact, you can't even redeem EU DLC unless you are on a EU account. You'll get error message.

What does work is make a new profile linked with EU account, get/download EU DLC, but it will only work on PAL game disc.


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Posted 04 February 2013 - 03:53 PM

When you do a PS3-to-PS3 system transfer, all of the content is moved. This includes previously copy-locked items.
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#1980 Kazaganthi

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 10:29 PM

When you do a PS3-to-PS3 system transfer, all of the content is moved. This includes previously copy-locked items.


Crap. I need a copy, I don't want to have to download 70+ games from a 1,800+ download history list :(