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#31 gokou36

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Posted 21 July 2007 - 06:54 AM

Yes, you are.

I'll break it down for you:

WiiConnect24 just connects online. The Standby Connection (Don't confuse this with the normal standby that all electronics these days are in when you turn them off) keeps that connection active 24 hours a day. You cannot have the Standby Connection on without having WC24 on, but you can keep WC24 on without the Standby Connection being on so that it'll only get online when you have the Wii on. The problem is that the Standby Connection is keeping the Wii on all hours of the day without running the fan, thus making the Wii hotter than if the Standby Connection were turned off.


I just went to check it after I posted and I see what you mean now. Looks like Nintendo fucked up with it, you're not really in Standby mode since the damn thing is still running hot.

Edit : But still, red light=standby mode. Its best to either leave WiiConnect24 off or like you and others said to have it on but turn Standby mode off without having to unplug the power cord. Whatever you do, just make sure you don't have the orange light or it'll run hot and Fuck your system.

#32 FriskyTanuki

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Posted 21 July 2007 - 07:03 AM

I just went to check it after I posted and I see what you mean now. Looks like Nintendo fucked up with it, you're not really in Standby mode since the damn thing is still running hot.

Edit : But still, red light=standby mode. Its best to either leave WiiConnect24 off or like you and others said to have it on but turn Standby mode off without having to unplug the power cord. Whatever you do, just make sure you don't have the orange light or it'll run hot and Fuck your system.

Standby mode =/=Standby connection. Two separate things, though similar. One keeps the system barely on at all times (standby mode) while the other keeps the system connected to the internet at all times(Standby Connection). Both the orange and red lights mean it's in standby mode, but orange means it also has the standby connection on, as well. You can check the manual for confirmation on that.


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#33 TimPV3

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Posted 21 July 2007 - 07:10 AM

What the Fuck is the point of WiiConnect24? Just to update the firmware?

Add me to the list of "yellow light has been on since December unless power goes out and I have no reason to turn the Wii back on right away"

#34 gokou36

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Posted 21 July 2007 - 07:29 AM

Standby mode =/=Standby connection. Two separate things, though similar. One keeps the system barely on at all times (standby mode) while the other keeps the system connected to the internet at all times(Standby Connection). Both the orange and red lights mean it's in standby mode, but orange means it also has the standby connection on, as well. You can check the manual for confirmation on that.


Same difference. Lets face it, WiiConnect24 is the reason why systems can break. The meaning of WiiConnect24 is to have it connect 24/7. If you turn off Standby Connection and leave WiiConnect24 on, its no longer on 24/7. This is a bad feature and shouldn't have been implemented in the first place. What good is it to have it on 24/7 when it can harm your system, to save you a few mins of updating(hell are there any updates?).

#35 Tsukento

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Posted 21 July 2007 - 03:23 PM

I wouldn't rely on Kotaku for a source of news. They claimed that Japanese players were dashing for US-based Pokémon with nicknames on the Global Trade System because they couldn't us English letters...which was completely false.

Sounds more like Kotaku doesn't have shit to report so we've got "rumors" flying about.

On another note, I've left my Wii on for days and have never had a problem. Same goes with systems of now and the past.

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Posted 21 July 2007 - 06:23 PM

I've had my Wii since the end of January. WiiConnect24's on and I put it in standby when I'm not using it. My Wii's fine.

If some Wiis are melting down because of a batch of inferior components or manufacturing defects , I'd want to find out if my Wii was defective while it's covered under warranty.

I'd turn WiiConnect24 on, put it in standby, and consider it stress testing.

#37 PyroGamer

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Posted 22 July 2007 - 04:58 PM

All I know is I don't want a constantly running system that gets that hot anywhere near my drapes when I'm away from home.

#38 RyokoYaksa

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Posted 23 July 2007 - 05:32 AM

Aren't the GPU and Wi-Fi chip placed right next to each other inside the Wii? It definitely makes sense that the GPU is being cooked because Wi-Fi devices tend to get quite hot.

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Posted 23 July 2007 - 03:02 PM

My Wii went down. Sent it back in and they gave me a new one. My old one still worked, but had faint vertical lines of pixels on the screen. Not totally noticeable, but probably the start of a bigger problem.

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Posted 23 July 2007 - 04:11 PM

No, Standby mode does not make the Wii hot, its the Wii Connect24 thats making it hot. I checked this back then and I was wondering why it was so fucking hot , so I turned off my Connect24 and Standby mode was cool.

So yeah, you can leave Standby(red light) mode on, but turn off Connect24, because its useless leaving it on.


Huh? For me it was the other way around... I have WC24 on but stand by mode off and it's perfectly cool. When on standby, it used to get fairly hot.

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#41 dallow

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Posted 23 July 2007 - 04:32 PM

WiiConnect24 ON gives the orange light when you power down the system.
It gets hot.


Standby mode only gives the red light.
Not hot, nor warm.

#42 Serpentor

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Posted 23 July 2007 - 05:19 PM

I'm actually going to turn it off today.
It's useless.


shame on you dallow... i thought you're way too smart to have Wii24 turned on all this time.

#43 WiiGame

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Posted 24 July 2007 - 07:35 PM

just turn off wii connect 24... i don't see any advantages... it's not like u wake up and nintendo has just sent you a free mario or star fox 64 or something

#44 AmigoOne

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Posted 24 July 2007 - 07:39 PM

My Wii went down. Sent it back in and they gave me a new one. My old one still worked, but had faint vertical lines of pixels on the screen. Not totally noticeable, but probably the start of a bigger problem.


Mine has a yellow color slowly showing up on the left side of my screen on things like the internet, and when its on everybody votes, a blue also shows up on the right. Does mine have a problem?

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Posted 24 July 2007 - 09:02 PM

actually, i do used to use wiiconnect to check the news almost every day, then i started realizing how HOT this thing was getting. I promptly stopped using it after that.

a shame though, now i gotta watch actual news to get my updates :/.

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Posted 24 July 2007 - 09:04 PM

The misinformation in this thread is astounding.

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Posted 24 July 2007 - 09:20 PM

Maybe I should take a look at mine... I walked by the other day and noticed the light was off. Seemed a little wierd so tried to turn it on...nothing. Moved it to another outlet...still nothing. I did this 4 or 5 times and finally the red light came on. I put it away because the neighbor kids were coming over, so I should hook it back up to see if everything is working correctly.

(I had slight power outage in the neighborhood the night before, and thought that may have caused it to reset)

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#48 pop311

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Posted 24 July 2007 - 11:27 PM

Would anybody suggest a cooling fan?

#49 dallow

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Posted 24 July 2007 - 11:30 PM

shame on you dallow... i thought you're way too smart to have Wii24 turned on all this time.

I just forgot it was on.
It's really my sister who plays it, and only GC games.

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Problem is fixed now.

The misinformation in this thread is astounding.

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#50 daroga

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Posted 25 July 2007 - 02:53 AM

Wow, people still think that the WC24 is causing problems? I don't doubt that there may be issues out there, but WC24 doesn't make everyone's console heat up to the boiling point of plastic. Mine's been on for week and is barely warm to the touch.

Perhaps stand-by heat is causing problems on some systems, but it would seem far more likely to be deficines with that particular system rather the WC24 service as a whole.

My current system's had it on for 5 months now and works perfectly.

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#51 dallow

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Posted 25 July 2007 - 03:00 AM

Wow, people still think that the WC24 is causing problems? I don't doubt that there may be issues out there, but WC24 doesn't make everyone's console heat up to the boiling point of plastic. Mine's been on for week and is barely warm to the touch.

Perhaps stand-by heat is causing problems on some systems, but it would seem far more likely to be deficines with that particular system rather the WC24 service as a whole.

My current system's had it on for 5 months now and works perfectly.

There is no heat with standby.
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#52 daroga

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Posted 25 July 2007 - 02:42 PM

There is no heat with standby.

Yeah-HUH!

It may not be Nintendo's terminology, but in my mind, standby=orange light, off=red light.

The point still stands.

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#53 snipegod

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Posted 25 July 2007 - 02:42 PM

Enlighten us!


You can lead a horse to water ...

Yes, everybody does have it backwards.

You can't even enable standby mode when WiiConnect24 is off. You can have WiiConnect24 on and standby off, however.


WiiConnect24 + Standby = orange light when powered down.
WiiConnect24 only = red light when powered down.
Standby only = does not exist, you Epsilon semi-morons.

Having standby on, having the orange light on, is what causes the heat. Whether this actually has an effect -- either to cause a defective GPU or worsen an already defective GPU -- I don't know.

#54 daroga

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Posted 25 July 2007 - 02:44 PM

If the red light is on, regardless of whether WC24 is enabled in the software, it is not active.

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#55 dallow

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Posted 25 July 2007 - 02:52 PM

Ok then, I stand by what I wrote.
The only reason to have the system in standby mode is for WiiConnect24.

I just interchange both terms (standby & WiiConnect24) since they're nothing without the other as the point is to get online updates when the machine is not in use.

I keep my system in off (redlight mode) then.
No reason to keep it warm.

#56 snipegod

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Posted 25 July 2007 - 02:53 PM

If the red light is on, regardless of whether WC24 is enabled in the software, it is not active.


If the red light is on, standby mode is not active. This is easily agreeable.

From my understanding, if you only have WiiConnect24 enabled (thereby getting a red light on power down), it will automatically connect to the web when your Wii is powered on. As opposed to WiiConnect24 being off (thereby having standby on being impossible) and still getting a red light on power down, your Wii will only connect to the internet when prompted -- such as entering the Everybody Votes Channel, the Internet Channel, etc.

Correct me if wrong, but it doesn't make sense that having WiiConnect24 off and having WiiConnect24 on without Standby mode on being the same thing.

Edit: And the third option, since Dallow asked above, would be WiiConnect24 on and Standby mode on (orange light). Your Wii will connect to the internet when powered down to the orange standby light to update itself concerning messages from Nintendo, Wii friends, and ... that's it? Someone fill me in if standby pre-downloads updates to firmware or anything else ... but I don't believe it does.

#57 dallow

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Posted 25 July 2007 - 02:59 PM

Edit: And the third option, since Dallow asked above, would be WiiConnect24 on and Standby mode on (orange light). Your Wii will connect to the internet when powered down to the orange standby light to update itself concerning messages from Nintendo, Wii friends, and ... that's it? Someone fill me in if standby pre-downloads updates to firmware or anything else ... but I don't believe it does.

It only gets message updates (and certain channel info), it won't pre-download anything without your approval.

To clarify, this is how my system is now setup.

WiiConnect24 on.
Standby off.

I will want it to get message updates (plus weather/news info) while I'm using the system.
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#58 snipegod

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Posted 25 July 2007 - 03:08 PM

I think that's the whole problem ... people are using standby and Wiiconnect24 to mean the same thing. They're not. They're two different setting options.

To illustrate: I just turned WiiConnect24 off (so, standby is also off ... you can't have standby on and WiiConnect24 off) and tried to go into any channel using the internet; you get an error message saying WiiConnect24 is not enabled. You can't even connect to the internet without WiiConnect24 on.

WiiConnect24 on = internet enabled.
WiiConnect24 off = internet disabled.
Standby on = internet checks when the system is off -- when the fans are not running -- creating heat.

They do need to release a firmware update to make the fans run whenever standby checks into the 'net for updates in order to decrease the heat generated. I've had standby on since launch, and the system does get very hot.

#59 dallow

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Posted 25 July 2007 - 03:13 PM

I think that's the whole problem ... people are using standby and Wiiconnect24 to mean the same thing. They're not. They're two different setting options.

To illustrate: I just turned WiiConnect24 off (so, standby is also off ... you can't have standby on and WiiConnect24 off) and tried to go into any channel using the internet; you get an error message saying WiiConnect24 is not enabled. You can't even connect to the internet without WiiConnect24 on.

WiiConnect24 on = internet enabled.
WiiConnect24 off = internet disabled.
Standby on = internet checks when the system is off -- when the fans are not running -- creating heat.

They do need to release a firmware update to make the fans run whenever standby checks into the 'net for updates in order to decrease the heat generated. I've had standby on since launch, and the system does get very hot.

Yes, you have stated everything perfectly there.
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#60 daroga

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Posted 25 July 2007 - 03:38 PM

Ah, ok, I think I've got a better understanding of everything. I might swich standby to off on mine. It's not like it's doing anyything while off at the moment anyway.

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