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#3001 gbpackers94

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 05:16 AM

Book. Tons of names to keep straight etc. Easier to read the book first.


Okay. How many books should I read before I can watch the show?
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#3002 dmaul1114

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 05:22 AM

Okay. How many books should I read before I can watch the show?


The first season only covered the first book. So just read A Game of Thrones and then you can watch the show and then read further to be ready for future seasons.

#3003 gbpackers94

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Posted 29 January 2012 - 05:30 AM

Awesome, thanks! (WVU got screwed)
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#3004 dmaul1114

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 08:53 PM

Finished Ender's Game and enjoyed, so decided to continue on with the series.

So on to book 2:

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#3005 Maklershed

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 10:57 PM

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#3006 dothog

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Posted 30 January 2012 - 11:03 PM

The first season only covered the first book. So just read A Game of Thrones and then you can watch the show and then read further to be ready for future seasons.


I don't want to post this in the GoT TV thread but it has to be said: the book is SHITLOADS better than the show.

If you really enjoy reading GoT, I'd say skip the show entirely and put your entertainment hours into the next two books in the series. After you've finished Books 1-3, if you're still interested in the TV show, check it out.

Just know that the GoT show isn't "quality" TV in the way that other HBO shows are. It is highly polished schlock with decent source material.
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#3007 RockinTheRedDog

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 11:17 PM

I don't want to post this in the GoT TV thread but it has to be said: the book is SHITLOADS better than the show.

If you really enjoy reading GoT, I'd say skip the show entirely and put your entertainment hours into the next two books in the series. After you've finished Books 1-3, if you're still interested in the TV show, check it out.

Just know that the GoT show isn't "quality" TV in the way that other HBO shows are. It is highly polished schlock with decent source material.


Emphasis on Books 1-3. I'm on the 4th right now and it's a struggle for me to get through this one.

#3008 kill3r7

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 11:55 PM

Emphasis on Books 1-3. I'm on the 4th right now and it's a struggle for me to get through this one.


The fourth book was the worse. The fifth one was better but still nowhere as good as the first three.

#3009 Maklershed

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 12:06 AM

Just finished Robopocalypse. It wasn't Dickens but it was one of the funnest books I've read in awhile. Think of it as a cross between World War Z and Terminator. I would love to see a film adaptation of it.

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#3010 crunchb3rry

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 02:37 AM

I just hope the Giants win the Super Bowl so George doesn't fall into a depression and delay starting book 6.

#3011 blandstalker

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 02:34 PM

The fourth book was the worse. The fifth one was better but still nowhere as good as the first three.


I disagree, though I know I'm in the minority.

I've loved all the books. The fourth is not everyone's cup of tea because of the characters it follow, but I loved spending time with them just as much as all the other characters. Unlike Wheel of Time, where I grew to dread certain characters, I was always glad when I turned the page and found who would be the center of the new chapter.

To me, Game of Thrones is not about resolving a plot. That's interesting, of course, but it's all about characterization, detail, and getting inside the heads of the people in the books.
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#3012 kill3r7

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 03:02 PM

I disagree, though I know I'm in the minority.

I've loved all the books. The fourth is not everyone's cup of tea because of the characters it follow, but I loved spending time with them just as much as all the other characters. Unlike Wheel of Time, where I grew to dread certain characters, I was always glad when I turned the page and found who would be the center of the new chapter.

To me, Game of Thrones is not about resolving a plot. That's interesting, of course, but it's all about characterization, detail, and getting inside the heads of the people in the books.


We agree to disagree. IMO, Feast for Crows did not add to the plotline or character development in any meanigful way. It introduced too many new characters and shifted the focus off many favorite characters. I enjoyed the Jamie, Brienne and Arya parts but more than a quarter of the book was devoted to Cercei who I loathe. It was as though George was planting the seed for future acts that will determine the fate of the realm. With that said, I think books 4 and 5 are greatly improved if read jointly following a linear timeline.

Link to reading books 4 & 5 side by side. I don't recommend doing this prior to reading each book individually. Link

#3013 Maklershed

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 03:04 PM

Read this on my bus ride to work this morning ..

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The Merchant and the Alchemist's Gate by Ted Chiang


What should I read next? Here's a list of the unread books on my Kindle right now:

Steve Jobs
It
Heart of Darkness
The Architecture of the Ozarks
Empire State
Debris
Page from a Tennessee Journal
Gotham: A History of NYC
These is My Words
The Way of Shadows
The Grove
The Eden Hunter
Gardens of the Moon: Book one of the Malazan Book of the Fallen
Revelation Space
Mass Effect: Ascension
The Blade Itself: The First Law Book 1
Free Will Flux
The Shadow and Night
The Night's Dawn Trilogy
The Void Trilogy

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#3014 dothog

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 03:09 PM

Not that thread activity isn't welcome, but if you guys want to talk ASOIAF, we have a thread devoted specifically to discussion of the books.

I hope you'll continue this discussion there, as I love discussing the books and learning about all the theories/perspectives people have on the books. I got the feeling in that thread that either nobody cared or I was doing so much posting that I was dampening the enthusiasm of the people who did care. So please chime in!

In book news, I've been reading the Island in a Sea of Time series by S.M. Sterling. I really like the first part of the first book, but I hate how the author felt like there needed to be a plain vanilla "bad guy." Such a waste of a good setting and an interesting premise.
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#3015 dmaul1114

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Posted 01 February 2012 - 03:27 PM

As far as ASOIAF, I'm with those who loved the first 3, but was let down with books 4 and 5.

As for the TV show, I thought what I saw (the first 6 or so episodes) were fantastic. Great adaptation of the books, and I can't wait to get it on Blu and watch it all next moth.


Maklershed, the only ones of those I've read is The Grove and the Mass Effect book. The Grove is just ok, but is a very quick read. The Mass Effect books aren't anything great, but are an ok read if you're a big fan of the games.

I want to read the Steve Jobs bio at some point.

#3016 Maklershed

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 12:21 AM

Just started

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It by Stephen King

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#3017 eldergamer

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 03:15 AM

Read this on my bus ride to work this morning ..

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The Merchant and the Alchemist's Gate by Ted Chiang


What should I read next? Here's a list of the unread books on my Kindle right now:

Steve Jobs
It
Heart of Darkness
The Architecture of the Ozarks
Empire State
Debris
Page from a Tennessee Journal
Gotham: A History of NYC
These is My Words
The Way of Shadows
The Grove
The Eden Hunter
Gardens of the Moon: Book one of the Malazan Book of the Fallen
Revelation Space
Mass Effect: Ascension
The Blade Itself: The First Law Book 1
Free Will Flux
The Shadow and Night
The Night's Dawn Trilogy
The Void Trilogy


Can definately recommend Revelation Space and Blade Itself. Revelation Space is a little hard to get into. It's the first book in a series but makes you feel like you're missing some previous info.

Gardens of the Moon is okay, but it's a 10 book series. Brutal and bloody. Confusing character names and magic/belief systems.

Wage of Shadows is good but really relies on some convient contrivances.

I wish I read more non-fiction.

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#3018 eldergamer

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 03:17 AM

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Delightfully weird. Abstract. At times it seems like the writer is a little in love with his own language. It's also sort of a "throw you into the deep end" type of book, where you're just immersed in this world and the explination of who these differnt races/speices are only shows up later. Some authors take paragraphs or pages explaining each alien species the first time they're introduced. This isn't one of those books.

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#3019 Mr Unoriginal

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:51 AM

Reading Hell's Angels by Hunter S. Thompson. It's entertaining but the writing style is not the Gonzo journalism that I expect from Thompson.

Its too bad you're still a prick with a stupid gimmick.


#3020 dmaul1114

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 03:09 PM

Reading Hell's Angels by Hunter S. Thompson. It's entertaining but the writing style is not the Gonzo journalism that I expect from Thompson.


Yeah, that was his first book and isn't Gonzo at all.

It's a very good read, but it's just a piece of immersion journalism. I actually read it for the first time in an immersive reporting class as an undergrad.

#3021 Maklershed

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 03:11 PM

Reading Hell's Angels by Hunter S. Thompson. It's entertaining but the writing style is not the Gonzo journalism that I expect from Thompson.



One of my all time favorite books.

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#3022 DOMINATOR912

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 03:26 PM

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Fuck that clown. Gave me nightmares through most of my childhood.

#3023 kill3r7

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 04:29 PM

Reading Hell's Angels by Hunter S. Thompson. It's entertaining but the writing style is not the Gonzo journalism that I expect from Thompson.


The book that cemented Thompson’s reputation as the premier journalist of the strange, deviant and crazed. Although not in the style of Gonzo journalism, you can still see the begins of it throughout the book. A very insightful read. Great book.

#3024 Maklershed

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 05:24 PM

Fuck that clown. Gave me nightmares through most of my childhood.



Ha yeah I'm only 5% in so far and its pretty damn creep already. Just imagine looking down over a poorly lit bridge to see a clown standing in the middle of a creek with a baloon in his hand staring back at you. :cold:

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#3025 Maklershed

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 03:46 PM

Finished up Heechee Rendezvous and on to the final book - The Annals of the Heechee

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#3026 The Crotch

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 03:58 PM

Be warned, dmaul: http://www.escapistm...ss-Effect-Novel

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#3027 dmaul1114

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 08:22 PM

Yeah, MSUHitman already posted about it in another thread, so I'll avoid that book.

I didn't think the first 3 Mass Effect novels where anything great anyway.

#3028 dothog

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Posted 06 February 2012 - 03:21 PM

Has anybody read the Malazan books (by Erickson)? I know they get a lot of praise from high fantasy fans, but I'm wondering what a more middle-of-the-road reader thinks. This thread is usually good for that kind of perspective, people read a lot of different books without getting bound to a genre.

So if anyone's read them, I'd appreciate your thoughts. Thanks!
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#3029 eldergamer

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Posted 06 February 2012 - 04:42 PM

Has anybody read the Malazan books (by Erickson)? I know they get a lot of praise from high fantasy fans, but I'm wondering what a more middle-of-the-road reader thinks. This thread is usually good for that kind of perspective, people read a lot of different books without getting bound to a genre.

So if anyone's read them, I'd appreciate your thoughts. Thanks!


I've read 3 or 4 of them and they're okay. They're dark, bloody and violent. They're also very confusing. There are like 10 differnt races, all with their own belif systems, schools of magic and what not. Two of the races have very similar names.

I had to keep this open during reading the books. http://en.wikipedia....e_Fallen_series
I mean, there's like 4 different races that start with Tiste.

The characters are good and believable though with decent character arcs to their stories instead of the standard "hero goes on a journey" fantasy trope.

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#3030 dothog

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Posted 06 February 2012 - 04:54 PM

The characters are good and believable though with decent character arcs to their stories instead of the standard "hero goes on a journey" fantasy trope.


Yeah, this is what I've heard from a friend who's admittedly a hardcore fantasy reader. He only acknowledged the difficulties you (and others on the internet) pointed out by stating that the first book could be "tough to get through." Riiiight.

I think I might tackle the first and see how it goes.

EDIT: I wound up going into Joe Abercrombie's First Law series. Yep, I've been feeling like fantasy lately. I'm not a big fan of Abercrombie's writing style, which aims to mimic an oral storytelling more than provide detailed descriptions, but I love his characters, especially Glokta and Jezal. He still uses a few familiar types (the world-weary barbarian, the crafty magus), but overall he's not afraid to advance a story using bold characters that have been made original by piecing together other tropes and simply making these characters a focus. I love it when a compelling story is told from the perspective of a character I don't respect.

Edited by dothog, 10 February 2012 - 02:50 PM.

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